Current Events > Beta Zelda OoT ROM recently discovered >_>

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:18:22 PM
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https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/a-zelda-64-beta-version-has-been-discovered-and-fans-are-pulling-it-apart/

tl;dr: Half of a OoT demo ROM from Spaceworld 1997 was found on an F-Zero X dev cart. Contains stuff like whistling grass for Epona like in Twilight Princess, different areas that were cut, a beta map screen, and the cut magic spells that would've originally have been from using medallions as items, among other stuff






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Wii_Shaker
01/19/21 8:25:46 PM
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You're always on the cutting edge of this sort of stuff. Keep up the good work, Neon :)

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:27:04 PM
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Early Dodongo Cavern


Early Kakiriko Village


Early Gerudo Valley


Early Archery Range or Lon Lon Ranch?



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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:28:00 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
You're always on the cutting edge of this sort of stuff. Keep up the good work, Neon :)
Thx bby <3

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FortuneCookie
01/19/21 8:30:14 PM
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No more Ocarina of Time secrets. I'm still shocked there's a fully functional Arwing hidden in the game and that you can actually fight it. (With a GameShark.)
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RedJackson
01/19/21 8:32:01 PM
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That's so cool lol thanks man


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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:33:20 PM
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Early Deku Tree?


Early Water Temple


Early Lake Hylia



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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:33:39 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
No more Ocarina of Time secrets. I'm still shocked there's a fully functional Arwing hidden in the game and that you can actually fight it. (With a GameShark.)
Bruh, that's like 20 years old. Get with the times old man

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SocialistGamer
01/19/21 8:37:39 PM
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>Become Navi
God no

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:38:02 PM
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Early Water Temple (4 floors instead of 3 LOL)



Early Forest Temple Basement (stairs instead of elevator >_>)


Early Fire Temple



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GeneralKenobi85
01/19/21 8:39:18 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
No more Ocarina of Time secrets. I'm still shocked there's a fully functional Arwing hidden in the game and that you can actually fight it. (With a GameShark.)
You don't even need a Gameshark for that. Last year it was found that you could do that with Arbitrary Code Execution.

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CM_Ponch
01/19/21 8:39:46 PM
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Tag

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:41:55 PM
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Webm of an Early Death Mountain. You go in and outside of the cliffside and it looks labyrinthy as fuck >_> Kinda glad they simplified it lol

https://webmshare.com/play/Wxbgq

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PatrickMahomes
01/19/21 8:44:27 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Tag


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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:44:46 PM
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Translated Text dump from the rom. It's pretty long but has some neat stuff >_>

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fpastebin.com%2Fraw%2FjqEpFpht

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EmilyWillis
01/19/21 8:44:49 PM
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 8:49:33 PM
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Early Forest Temple



Early Deku Tree

Early menu elements

Early Temple of Time


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_Rinku_
01/19/21 8:58:35 PM
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Can anyone translate the "" item? It's sixth from the bottom on the left most column. I'm pretty sure it's Lon Lon Milk, but my very limited ability to read katakana is leading me to believe it says "Ron Ron Cow Juice" lol
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:00:27 PM
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Early Fairy Fountain?


Early Hyrule Field



Early....something lol. Apparently it might be the Forest Temple from what people are saying but idk >_>



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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:02:12 PM
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From the text, there's weird stuff about events in the game. Like originally Link was gonna rescue trapped fairies inside the Deku Tree, and eventually you'll find a "different fairy" and that fairy becomes your Navi >_>

Also, the Desert Colossus statue is supposed to be modeled after Din

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:02:55 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Can anyone translate the "" item? It's sixth from the bottom on the left most column. I'm pretty sure it's Lon Lon Milk, but my very limited ability to read katakana is leading me to believe it says "Ron Ron Cow Juice" lol
No clue, but it sounds like Lon Lon Milk from your context lol

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_Rinku_
01/19/21 9:04:10 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
No clue, but it sounds like Lon Lon Milk from your context lol
That's what I figured, but I can't really read the words after "Lon Lon" super well lol
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:06:38 PM
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Here's videos of the beta content. There's also stuff from 5 months ago with the Gigaleak too. Just look at the upload dates to differentiate between the 2 >_>

https://www.youtube.com/c/z64me/videos00

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Doom_Art
01/19/21 9:08:10 PM
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I fucking love this shit

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:12:29 PM
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Early Deku Tree


Early Water Temple

Early Fire Temple boss room (note the columns)

Early Forest Temple


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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:12:46 PM
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Various early mini maps


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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:13:34 PM
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Apparently there's 127 maps with even older builds of areas mixed in, but they're formatted differently so it might take some time to extract


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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:14:14 PM
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That's all I got so far >_> I'll post updates and pics if I get more

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ThunderTrain
01/19/21 9:14:56 PM
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Neat

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:23:08 PM
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Fun Fact: In the N64 version, you can still see the Fire Medallion icon in the Shadow Temple entrance where you're supposed to use Din's Fire. The Fire Medallion was originally gonna be an item to use that would work like Din's Fire before it got replaced, but that icon is still leftover from it.

Also Forest and Water Temple were supposed to be Wind and Ice Temples, which you can see reminents of that in Ganon's Tower during the trials. Hence why the Forest (Wind) Medallion was gonna act like Farore's Wind

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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/19/21 9:26:06 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
That's what I figured, but I can't really read the words after "Lon Lon" super well lol

The word after Lon Lon is pronounced gyuunyuu. It means cowmilk. I've never played Zelda so I don't know what its supposed to be but the Katakana is ron ron.
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_Rinku_
01/19/21 9:31:59 PM
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
The word after Lon Lon is pronounced gyuunyuu. It means cowmilk. I've never played Zelda so I don't know what its supposed to be but the Katakana is ron ron.
Thank you! The localized version has always called the ranch in the game "Lon Lon" and you get the item "Lon Lon Milk" from there. I've never been sure why they went with Lon Lon instead of Ron Ron other than one of them sounds like a man's name in English lol
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:33:09 PM
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Cuz L's and R's are interchangeable in Japanese. I don't even know the language but my basic weeb knowledge knows that >_> come on man lol

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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/19/21 9:34:11 PM
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_Rinku_ posted...
Thank you! The localized version has always called the ranch in the game "Lon Lon" and you get the item "Lon Lon Milk" from there. I've never been sure why they went with Lon Lon instead of Ron Ron other than one of them sounds like a man's name in English lol

Probably because Ron spoken by a Japanese person sounds more similiar to an English speaker saying Lon. The tongue touches the alvelor ridge to pronounce Ron in japanese.
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_Marka_Ragnos_
01/19/21 9:36:24 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Cuz L's and R's are interchangeable in Japanese. I don't even know the language but my basic weeb knowledge knows that >_> come on man lol

R is similiar to the T sound in water.
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SPE
01/19/21 9:37:18 PM
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wow. amazing.

whats with everything being red though?

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_Rinku_
01/19/21 9:37:39 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Cuz L's and R's are interchangeable in Japanese. I don't even know the language but my basic weeb knowledge knows that >_> come on man lol
I know that. I meant generally how localizers decide whether to change it to an "L" or "R" sound. Like, there's an anime I like with a character whose name in katakana is "" and it's been localized as "Loropechika." I assume in that case they ask the original author what their intent was.

I mean, my username is based off the way you write "Link" in katakana lol
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:38:35 PM
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SPE posted...
wow. amazing.

whats with everything being red though?
It's just a texture glitch from the model viewer. Everything looks normal when it's viewed in-game

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SPE
01/19/21 9:39:18 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
It's just a texture glitch from the model viewer. Everything looks normal when it's viewed in-game

thanks

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_Rinku_
01/19/21 9:41:21 PM
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_Marka_Ragnos_ posted...
Probably because Ron spoken by a Japanese person sounds more similiar to an English speaker saying Lon. The tongue touches the alvelor ridge to pronounce Ron in japanese.
Oh, that's interesting. I've always read that the Japanese "R" isn't really like an English "R" and that it sounds like it's between an English "L" and "R" though I suppose that's a very anglophone way to view it...
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:50:11 PM
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So apparently it doesn't seem like the rom is playable because too much of it is overwritten from F-Zero X. Plus there doesn't seem to be any beta music or sound effects either. However people are able to import the maps to OoT to "play" them >_>

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Kafkaf
01/19/21 9:52:12 PM
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Isnt there also jyu/zyu and s/th
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Hitgigens
01/19/21 9:57:04 PM
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When can we play it.
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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 9:58:41 PM
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Hitgigens posted...
When can we play it.
Too much of it is missing so it isn't playable. But there's still a shit ton of data to extract and look at

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NeonOctopus
01/19/21 10:12:52 PM
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Apparently Mido was gonna be a sage lol

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treewojima
01/19/21 10:20:49 PM
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stop, I can only get so erect
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ultimate reaver
01/19/21 10:21:32 PM
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i love seeing this shit, especially from n64 games. so much interesting history

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HydraSlayer82
01/19/21 10:24:28 PM
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Good topic.

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SPE
01/19/21 10:38:55 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
i love seeing this shit, especially from n64 games. so much interesting history

@ultimate_reaver yes for some reason this stuff is far more interesting with the n64

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