Current Events > So far, two people have warned me that Canada is headed in a bad direction

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Can CE confirm?

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Can CE confirm?

In regards to what?

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

In regards to what?

Canada soon to be headed for trouble, and I dont mean snow fall.

One was in regards to healthcare collapsing, the other is cost of living outside in major urban areas

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Canada soon to be headed for trouble, and I dont mean snow fall.

One was in regards to healthcare collapsing, the other is cost of living outside in major urban areas

After doing a quick Google search on the subject, I don't think so. It seems there are some people taking certain percentages of our healthcare spending and being disingenuous with its applicability.

As for cost of living outside of urban areas, that's just the free market at play. Eventually those costs will come down if people stop paying those prices.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

Eventually those costs will come down if people stop paying those prices.

Oh, that is another one of the possible crises we are facing too, foreign buyers and etc. Forgot about that.

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Yeah, this discussion happened before COVID but maybe the point was unsustainability, but that's probably just a rabbit hole.

I guess I could have looked this up, but I wanted to see what the reaction to the idea is

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Oh, that is another one of the possible crises we are facing too, foreign buyers and etc. Forgot about that.

Yeah, this discussion happened before COVID but maybe the point was unsustainability, but that's probably just a rabbit hole.

I guess I could have looked this up, but I wanted to see what the reaction to the idea is

The sustainability is what I looked into for my response.

As far as foreign buyers, im not 100% sure what they would be buying.

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Healthcare everywhere is stressed

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Canada is a utopia and there is nothing wrong.

There are things wrong and we're going to be reeling from COVID 19 for a long time, but I don't think things are on the downswing here.

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IfGodCouldDie posted...

As for cost of living outside of urban areas, that's just the free market at play. Eventually those costs will come down if people stop paying those prices.

but they won't. people need places to live.

now what?

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of course canada's heading in a bad direction. both with covid and in general. it's a capitalist settler-colonialist state.

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Teleological arguments are fucking godtier

Dambisa Moyo disagrees, she claims if a democracy can last 300 years then it won't fall

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averagejoel posted...

but they won't. people need places to live.

now what?

Nothing? If people can afford to continue paying those prices and do then things just keep chugging along.

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Live in Canada, can confirm that it's not heading in a bad direction.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Dambisa Moyo disagrees, she claims if a democracy can last 300 years then it won't fall

it's not at all clear to me that this is true. it's also not at all clear to me that Canada is a democracy in the first place

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averagejoel posted...

it's not at all clear to me that this is true. it's also not at all clear to me that Canada is a democracy in the first place

I wish I didn't sell that book, I reference it a lot -_-

Canada at least appears to be democratic, which is good enough to not violently overthrow such a system

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

Canada at least appears to be democratic, which is good enough to not violently overthrow such a system

how are you defining "democracy" here? because it doesn't appear that way at all to me

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averagejoel posted...

how are you defining "democracy" here?

How are you defining democracy?

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averagejoel posted...

it's also not at all clear to me that Canada is a democracy in the first place

uh what

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We're a constitutional monarchy technically.

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I would argue that democracy just means deliberation between parties that are not operating under the same organization, unless that organization also happens to be the entire citizenry, I guess

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

I would argue that democracy just means deliberation between parties that are not operating under the same organization, unless that organization also happens to be the entire citizenry, I guess

see, I think that can be part of it. but it's not the whole picture. I think the parties, however many there are, have to actually operate in the interest of the citizenry. the major parties in Canada do not do this.

I think the citizenry also has to have a similar kind of power when it comes to things like their workplace. Canada does not have this.

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Dont know I have no plans to ever go there

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Don't worry, the continental drift is so slow that you won't notice it in your lifetime

I've heard some stuff about real estate but that was awhile ago.

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CProtectionSvce posted...

I've heard some stuff about real estate but that was awhile ago.

Yeah real estate is getting really worrisome. Now more and more young Canadians are moving out of the cities and the small town real estate prices are jumping. It's just not a pretty situation and none of our politicians are brave or noncomplicit enough to deal with it.

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Cowthief posted...

Yeah real estate is getting really worrisome. Now more and more young Canadians are moving out of the cities and the small town real estate prices are jumping. It's just not a pretty situation and none of our politicians are brave or noncomplicit enough to deal with it.

That's interesting. This is probably before covid right? I'd assume covid would encourage people to stay put for now. Although on the flip side I can also see that encouraging people to get houses for themselves.

Taxes are gonna have to go up a lot eventually which will make the cost of living much more expensive, given how Trudeau is sending Canada into deep levels of debt from tons of spending.

CarrieChan posted...

Taxes are gonna have to go up a lot eventually which will make the cost of living much more expensive, given how Trudeau is sending Canada into deep levels of debt from tons of spending.

What's being spent on?

PBusted posted...

What's being spent on?

Lots of pandemic subsidies and a huge chunk of money to purchase a pipeline that has now tripled due to cost overruns.

PBusted posted...

That's interesting. This is probably before covid right? I'd assume covid would encourage people to stay put for now. Although on the flip side I can also see that encouraging people to get houses for themselves.

How can I get a house for myself when average prices in my city in a single year went from $465,000 to $671,000? Nothing I can do about Toronto citizens cashing out their multi million homes and bully buying multiple Ottawa properties.

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#BringBackTheRaptors.

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Cowthief posted...

Yeah real estate is getting really worrisome. Now more and more young Canadians are moving out of the cities and the small town real estate prices are jumping. It's just not a pretty situation and none of our politicians are brave or noncomplicit enough to deal with it.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canadians-leaving-big-cities-in-record-numbers-statistics-canada-1.5270161

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Tell me about it. My mom bought her first house in 98 for 89.5k. Sold 5 years later for 279k. Bought another house for 319 and sold 9 years later for 519k (she did redo the kitchen though).

She sold that house barely over a year ago and its being flipped for 600k with just a new patio added on.

Vancouverites and Albertans moving here fucked thing up hard the last 20 years and especially the last 4 or 5.

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Tell me about it. My mom bought her first house in 98 for 89.5k. Sold 5 years later for 279k. Bought another house for 319 and sold 9 years later for 519k (she did redo the kitchen though).

She sold that house barely over a year ago and its being flipped for 600k with just a new patio added on.

Vancouverites and Albertans moving here fucked thing up hard the last 20 years and especially the last 4 or 5.

how rare are completed properties in the 100k-200k range? Sounds like that would be in low supply.

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The only thing bad about Canada is that its stuck next to the US.

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MedeaLysistrata posted...

how rare are completed properties in the 100k-200k range? Sounds like that would be in low supply.

Non existent.

Even if there's one for under 400k its immediately snapped up and the house is torn down either by a family for a bigass new home in its place or a developer who got the designation flipped and built a 4 plex.


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Yes, we are headed in a bad direction.

It happens whenever somebody buys a Maple Leafs jersey

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Ryven posted...

Yes, we are headed in a bad direction.

It happens whenever somebody buys a Maple Leafs jersey

This is a great post

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SazhAndFrocobo posted...

How can I get a house for myself when average prices in my city in a single year went from $465,000 to $671,000? Nothing I can do about Toronto citizens cashing out their multi million homes and bully buying multiple Ottawa properties.

Ouch, I can see where you're coming from.