Current Events > I'm struggling to see how Eren isn't in the right, AoT anime spoilers

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CM_Ponch
01/15/21 10:53:41 PM
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For months I've been hearing about how Eren crossed the line and that they can no longer root for him. Maybe something happens in the coming episodes, I don't know. But how exactly is he in the wrong for killing a group of people who have spent the past few years killing everyone he cared about after banishing them behind a wall for a century? People are trying to say he killed innocents, but those same innocents were just told that they were being lied to for the past century and that the Eldians were a scapegoat, but that it didn't matter because they were still going to murder them, and then they cheered. I hope they all get eaten and crushed.

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CM_Ponch
01/15/21 10:55:32 PM
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Oh boy
Lmao

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LordFarquad1312
01/15/21 10:56:16 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
But how exactly is he in the wrong for killing a group of people who have spent the past few years killing everyone he cared about after banishing them behind a wall for a century?
Because most of those people have been manipulated and brainwashed to do so. You know, much like his own people were by their own king.

Eren is doing exactly the same thing that set him on the path of revenge.

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CM_Ponch
01/15/21 10:58:52 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Because most of those people have been manipulated and brainwashed to do so. You know, much like his own people were by their own king.
Nah man, imagine that America spent 100 years telling people that Canadians ate babies so that we had kill them all to save babies, and that for some reason people believed. And then,100 years later and thousands of dead Canadians later the President admits to the truth but that we are going to continue slaughtering Canadians, and then we all start chanting "USA USA". Canada would be entirely justified in wiping the US out.

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CM_Ponch
01/15/21 10:59:13 PM
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mattymad posted...
Yo, someone hit me with a rundown of AoT after season one. Spoiler tag it for the others. I'm too lazy to watch the show but it sounds like **** goes nuts.
There's a recap movie >_>

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LordFarquad1312
01/15/21 11:03:42 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
Nah man, imagine that America spent 100 years telling people that Canadians ate babies so that we had kill them all to save babies, and that for some reason people believed. And then,100 years later and thousands of dead Canadians later the President admits to the truth but that we are going to continue slaughtering Canadians, and then we all start chanting "USA USA". Canada would be entirely justified in wiping the US out.
Except your analogy doesn't work, because Marley left Paradis alone for almost 100 years, and only because the top brass of the military wanted power they tried to disrupt it.
Furthermore, it wasn't even the Marleyans that tried to wipe them out, it was a plan hatched by 3 dumb kids.
And the only reason they have now actually decided to take action is because a deranged psychopath holds control over the equivalent of all the nukes in the world.

Marley is scum, but Eren is scum as well.

You're basically saying that since a country's military and government are assholes, the entire country deserves to be wiped out.

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pegusus123456
01/15/21 11:04:34 PM
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Tag for when I finsh

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CM_Ponch
01/15/21 11:07:23 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Furthermore, it wasn't even the Marleyans that tried to wipe them out, it was a plan hatched by 3 dumb kids.
??? They were sent there specifically to wipe out the people and receive the Founding Titan.

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LordFarquad1312
01/15/21 11:09:01 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
??? They were sent there specifically to wipe out the people and receive the Founding Titan.
No, their only purpose was to retrieve the Founder.
In last week's episode, Reiner explicitly tells Eren breaking the walls was a desperation move and they could have gone back empty handed when they lost the Jaws.

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ChrisTaka
01/15/21 11:14:25 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
??? They were sent there specifically to wipe out the people and receive the Founding Titan.

No they were just sent to get the founding titan.

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Crazyman93
01/15/21 11:19:27 PM
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Honestly, I haven't kept up, but early on Eren always struck me as unstable. So it sounds like something's finally made him snap.

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Irony
01/15/21 11:33:01 PM
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He is in the right. Hope he wipes them out lmao

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TopKEKIeon
01/15/21 11:39:58 PM
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CM_Ponch posted...
For months I've been hearing about how Eren crossed the line and that they can no longer root for him.

What bullshit. This is exactly what I wanted to happen. When he was telling Reiner that he himself had chilled out, I was about to punch my screen. Then he transforms and tells the Marley-jin "IT'S ALL OGRE FOR YOU!"

I had the biggest case of blue balls for four weeks between the first four episodes of the recent season watching those fucking bastards love their life. This week I came! Everywhere! FUCK! IT WAS SOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOD!
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TopKEKIeon
01/15/21 11:41:14 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...

Because most of those people have been manipulated and brainwashed to do so. You know, much like his own people were by their own king.

Eren is doing exactly the same thing that set him on the path of revenge.

Eren: "AW! So sad! I wish I cared, but my mom got EATEN!"
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DarthAragorn
01/16/21 12:03:49 AM
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I hope it ends with Eren killing them all tbh, fuck Marley and everyone in it
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Slaya4
01/16/21 3:59:07 PM
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Idk how anybody can say Eren was in the wrong when Marley was sending titans to their island for decades. They were in war before the war was even declared.

The whole conversation was pretty interesting to see though and how Eren realized that they are the same. It was almost as if he had forgiven him now that he was in his shoes.

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voldothegr8
01/16/21 4:00:17 PM
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Global genocide is bad m'kay
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lilORANG
01/16/21 4:01:35 PM
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Marley is evil and and should all be exterminated. That's really all there is to it.
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kyujo
01/16/21 4:04:50 PM
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I don't consider him in the right, but he's also another of Marley's victims

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Just curious if he'll change his mind on Eren if he keeps watching

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Smashingpmkns
01/16/21 4:10:57 PM
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Yeah I don't get it tbh. And this is the first time I've liked Eren like ever lol
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Crazyman93
01/16/21 8:15:09 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Marley is evil and and should all be exterminated. That's really all there is to it.
Leave it to CE to support literal genocide.

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lilORANG
01/16/21 8:19:40 PM
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Crazyman93 posted...

Leave it to CE to support literal genocide.


Eradicating nazis is not genocide brah.
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LordFarquad1312
01/16/21 8:41:35 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Eradicating nazis is not genocide brah.
Eradicating Germany would be. BRAH.

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Crazyman93
01/17/21 3:18:10 AM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
Eradicating Germany would be. BRAH.
Yeah, this isn't "Eren is gonna destroy their leadership" this is "Eren wants to wipe ALL of them out" regardless of their affiliation with the Government or its policies. It would be like if after finishing WWII, the Allied powers turned the gas chambers on and started marching in every German citizen.

Just because they did bad to you does not give you moral justification to do unto them.

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CM_Ponch
01/17/21 3:24:36 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Yeah, this isn't "Eren is gonna destroy their leadership" this is "Eren wants to wipe ALL of them out" regardless of their affiliation with the Government or its policies. It would be like if after finishing WWII, the Allied powers turned the gas chambers on and started marching in every German citizen.

Just because they did bad to you does not give you moral justification to do unto them.
They literally just cheered the declaration of war after being told the truth though

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Crazyman93
01/17/21 3:59:39 AM
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CM_Ponch posted...
They literally just cheered the declaration of war after being told the truth though

Crazyman93 posted...
Just because they did bad to you does not give you moral justification to do unto them.


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CM_Ponch
01/17/21 4:02:30 AM
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They are not in a position to be morally superior. Their choices are kill or be killed.

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JumpstyIe
01/17/21 4:12:32 AM
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can someone give me spoilers for season 4 so far (as well as what the manga covers after what all of season 4 has covered so far)?

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CM_Ponch
01/17/21 4:19:58 AM
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JumpstyIe posted...
can someone give me spoilers for season 4 so far (as well as what the manga covers after what all of season 4 has covered so far)?
I can't speak for the manga but anime spoilers
Season starts with a time skip and we're seeing things from the view points of the Eldians on the Marley side. We meet a group of kids who are trying to inherit the Armored titan from Reiner. One of the kids, Gaby, risks her life and basically wins the battle solo. Another kid, Falco, doesn't want her to inherit the titan because of the titan curse.
They head back and Reiner has PTSD from his time behind the wall. He's regretful of the friends he betrayed. Falco visits a soldier hospital where he meets up with a veteran who lost his leg and is Eren in disguise. Eren has Falco mail letters for him.
The Marleyan king has a big announcement planned regarding the war against the people of Paradiso. As this is happening Eren tells Falco to bring Reiner to him as they are old friends and haven't seen each other in years. Reiner and Eren meet, Reiner freaks out but can't do anything because they are underneath an apartment complex and Eren is ready to transform. Eren and Reiner talk and Eren tells him that they're in the same position. The king tells the Marleyans the truth about the wall and declares war anyway. Then Eren transforms killing countless civilians. Now today's episode.

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ChrisTaka
01/17/21 5:09:40 AM
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JumpstyIe posted...
can someone give me spoilers for season 4 so far (as well as what the manga covers after what all of season 4 has covered so far)?

Heavy Manga Spoilers: Eren's Titan gives him the ability to see into the future. His first future vision occurred when he kissed Historia's hand after the Rod Reid's incident. I don't remember EXACTLY what Eren saw but it made him come to the conclusion that in order for his people to be free, everyone needs to die (because the whole world hates Eldia)

Fast forward a bit, Eren betrays Zeke and uses his Royal blood and the founding titan ability to release the Colossal Titans that are in the wall to flatten the whole world, and Ymir (The real one not the lesbian one) is working with Eren to gain the same freedom he seeks, a lot of people die, oh and Historia is giving (or already gave) birth. Some fans are convinced Eren is the father but that's just a theory.

Now everyone else, Eldians and Marlyeans alike, are joining forces to stop Eren from destroying the world, Falco is the Jaw Titan (who can fly for some reason that I forgot), Annie came back, they might have to kill Eren, Armin was captured by Eren, Levi is pretty fucked up right now, and Eren is the biggest Titan in the series right now, as in Colossal Titans barely reach his knees big.

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TopKEKIeon
01/17/21 5:28:01 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
Just because they did bad to you does not give you moral justification to do unto them.

I could swear you're trolling, but I can't tell anymore.
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Trelve
01/17/21 5:37:39 AM
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I hope Reiner puts Eren down like the mad dog he is.
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Aki_Sora
01/17/21 6:32:40 AM
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Eren did nothing wrong.

Cringevenger and moralfaq supporters are shit and dumb
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TopKEKIeon
01/17/21 6:36:14 AM
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Trelve posted...
I hope Reiner puts Eren down like the mad dog he is.

Other way around. It's Reiner and Zeke who are the mad dogs. And they are deader than a Jehova's Witness in Saudi Arabia.
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InhumaneRaider
01/17/21 6:50:59 AM
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Aki_Sora posted...
Eren did nothing wrong.

Cringevenger and moralfaq supporters are shit and dumb
This. Fuck that shit. These mofos were told the truth and still were like, "Yeah, this sounds good". I hope Eren fucks them all up. Traitors included.

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MorganTJ
01/17/21 6:56:17 AM
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Can't wait to see the sequel topic in a few months.
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CM_Ponch
01/17/21 4:38:51 PM
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This topic just made me feel even more justified in saying Eren was right. Tybrur deliberately set up the situation to let as many innocent as possible die.

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pegusus123456
01/19/21 3:57:53 AM
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Bump

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TopKEKIeon
01/19/21 8:56:16 PM
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SubtletyRefuge posted...

We already have that with the Middle East, China, and all the other places the west colonized. Guess Al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the CCP were the good guys all along.

Al-Qaeda started the fighting, not us. And ISIS and the CCP were butchering its own citizens long before we got involved.

If you wanted to make a good argument, Venezuela and Iraq is what you should have brought up. The USA was entirely in the wrong there and we deserve retaliation for what we did there.
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ROBANN_88
01/20/21 6:35:53 AM
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Anyone know how long this Final Season is gonna be?
There's alot to cover to get to the end

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