Board 8 > Final Fantasy Record Keeper Topic 50: Ardyn... the final character?

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I_hate_Syldra
01/14/21 9:15:24 PM
#1:


At least as far as we know. Even with six month's foresight there's hasn't been any new characters added.

Enlir's spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/16K1Zryyxrh7vdKVF1f7eRrUAOC5wuzvC3q2gFLch6LQ/edit#gid=938172420

MisterP's pdf:
http://happypluto.com/~misterp/r/ffrk.pdf

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HBJDubs
01/14/21 11:06:27 PM
#2:


Caius still getting shafted!

Rest of my fest pulls and my stamp picks (iirc one of these came from the daily):

Warrior Of Light Limit
Prompto LM
Quistis Chain (dupe)
Curilla Awakening
Bartz Awakening (fire)
Onion Knight Awakening
Alisaie Chain 2x

USB - Kiros (heard it goes well with his Awakening and I had all the other popular non-lensable picks)
Glint+ - Tyro
Sync - Rem

Zero 7* relics other than the stamp pick. Not my favorite fest tbh

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Kaxon
01/15/21 3:37:59 AM
#3:


Day 1 Ifrit clear:

https://i.imgur.com/dPehv5B.png

Considering how stacked I am in this realm I think I should be able to sub 30. But I did this without the AI thread, without realm artifacts (other than the mind rod for Tyro) and a level 80 HC.


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Kaxon
01/16/21 3:07:29 PM
#4:


Another Odin down, this one was the toughest one yet because of all the damage, the saps, and the timing of having to use Tyro's USB1 for astra in between turn 12 and 13.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/17/21 5:54:50 AM
#5:


3/11

Ardyn SASB/USB/Glint+

I mean

That helps about three different teams at once probably.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/17/21 10:39:17 AM
#6:


Dream Select ends in three days and I still haven't picked my Awakenings. But I have so many to choose between.

Arc would be good for the Dreambreaker since I got his realm chain, but he's not going to be useful outside of that. Aria might be good too since her lensable healer stuff sucks.

Krile would be nice to go along with her sync, but she's stuck with a 4 hit HA and Meltdown as an earth mage.

Strago would help a lot with my FF6 dps since I'd rather go mage since I have Mog chain/awakening and I have Strago's chain, USBs and LBO. But I also want Terra's wind awakening so I can use her as a Wind mage and ignore the Ice Dragon's null fires. I may pull on the FF6 banner this week though.

Red XIII could help me beat Wodin but Emperor is getting a similar HA soon and I could just wait on that.

Is Cait Sith still worth getting if I already have Mog and Edward Awakenings?

Rinoa's earth Awakening would be a nice backup for her sync for Wodin but the berserk is really discouraging.

Vivi or Ace's would be backup for their syncs in case they run out of hones, but since I sub30 the T-0 dreambreaker I probably don't need Ace's. And I dunno if I want to juggle a mage against Deathguise since most of my good FF9 characters are physical.

Tidus could be the key to beating Sin since I have his sync1 and the mission is still up, but it's also pretty old.

Vanille might be useful for Dreambreaker.

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Kaxon
01/17/21 2:18:45 PM
#7:


Red XIII is definitely better than Rinoa, so if you're considering both you can probably rule out Rinoa. I did get some good use out of hers though by combining it with her ice awakening.

I think you probably don't need Cait Sith if you have Mog/Edward... although I don't have those so I can't compare them.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/17/21 2:53:33 PM
#8:


Red XIII is actually in competition with Emperor not Rinoa, Rinoa is in competition with Krile.

For my earth magic Wodin in team it's going to be

Maria (main DPS)
Rinoa/Krile (second DPS)
Emperor/ Red XIII (chain & Imperil)
Orran
Healer (most likely Duece for her stoneskin)

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/17/21 7:11:11 PM
#9:


I tried fighting a Wodin for the first time to day and surprise surprise I can't beat him because he's too bulky. I tried the lighting physical vulnerable because people said it was the easiest if you have Lightning Awakening and Sync which I have on top of the Dyad but I can barely break cap until the chain is high, I have Deuce use the crit chance bard and crit damage boost from Orran's BSB. It's just getting tiring at this point with Dreambreaker and such level bosses that they just outbulk you unless you have the sync and awakening to deal with the 4+ million HP and absurd damage reductions. They don't even seem that hard on paper it's just you can only do so much with 15 seconds building chain until you can crack their savage mode and when you're awakening/sync time runs out that character is basically useless.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/17/21 7:12:18 PM
#10:


SSJSephirothGokuX123 posted...
I tried fighting a Wodin for the first time to day and surprise surprise I can't beat him because he's too bulky. I tried the lighting physical vulnerable because people said it was the easiest if you have Lightning Awakening and Sync which I have on top of the Dyad but I can barely break cap until the chain is high, I have Deuce use the crit chance bard and crit damage boost from Orran's BSB. It's just getting tiring at this point with Dreambreaker and such level bosses that they just outbulk you unless you have the sync and awakening to deal with the 4+ million HP and absurd damage reductions. They don't even seem that hard on paper it's just you can only do so much with 15 seconds building chain until you can crack their savage mode and when you're awakening/sync time runs out that character is basically useless.

I dunno I guess Prishe isn't Wodin viable until she gets a HA.

Have you tried Ignis's BSB?

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/17/21 7:23:38 PM
#11:


No room for Ignis. He wouldn't be able to contribute besides that outside of being an entrust bot anyway.

Lightning is my main DPS, Prishe is my secondary (yeah I know she sucks, but her awakening buff helps Lighting break cap, and I already RB'd her.) Orran with his Awakening/Glint+/BSB, Deuce with Awakening/Elara clone USB/stoneskin USB to deal with anti heal, and her bard crit boost and HA bard attack/magic boost and Prompto my chain user/imperiler.

Couldn't fit Ignus in there even if I wanted to.

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Kaxon
01/18/21 12:59:19 AM
#12:


I've been using Tyro for all the physical ones because crit fixing from his USB4/Awakening is so useful for extra damage. Elarra's USB2 helps too. I have Orran's awakening and sync but without crit fixing he doesn't make the cut for me.

The first Odin is definitely the toughest because once you have the magicite it can repeatedly break cap and does a minor imperil to help counter the elemental resistance moves he does.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/20/21 12:03:15 AM
#13:


I'm using Duece's crit chance boosting bard skill with Orran's BSB, isn't that the same as Tyro AA/USb4 & Elara USB2?

Well I made my Awakening selections and I chose Terra Wind and Strago awakening. I figured I haven't had much luck with the tickets in the FF6 realm anyway because of how crowded it is so at least I have a mage team for the dreambreaker.

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Kaxon
01/20/21 12:15:56 AM
#14:


For crit damage boosting, yeah Orran's BSB does the same as Elarra's USB2 (or Zack's chain and awakening). But unless I'm missing something about Deuce, Ode to Victory starts at 10% crit rate and ramps up to 50%, while Tyro starts at 50% and ramps up to 100%.

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eaedwards6400
01/21/21 2:40:02 PM
#15:


I beat all of the Odins and I didn't even get a corny cutscene. I feel like I wasted my time lol

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Ultimaphazon
01/21/21 3:30:23 PM
#16:



I'vd been making some more progress on Dreambreakers.

This one could have easily been a sub-40. I mistimed Hilda's Dispel at the start of phase 3, which easily cost me those 1:09 seconds.

Not sure about sub-30 though. Maybe with an Odin deck (I'll get to that some day, I guess), or if I honed Cait's AASB.
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Kaxon
01/21/21 8:47:48 PM
#17:


1/11 - Relm G+. sigh

But on the bright side, we get D550 Omega with lots of new rewards!

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/21/21 10:13:12 PM
#18:


Also we got new missions that give tickets! Used mine one on FF12-

Basch USB
Garbanth AOSB
Vayne Awakening!!!!! =D

And one on FF1

Sarah Awakening!!!

Very good luck on these tickets! Finally a decent second DPS for FF12 and Sarah's Awakening was the top prize for me in FF1!

I beat two of the new Omega's already, Dark and Holy. Got new Anima Lens+ to get Edge's HA. I was reluctant since I already beat the FF4 dreambreaker but since everyone uses Edge for Wodin I might as well join the club.


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Ultimaphazon
01/22/21 1:39:23 AM
#19:


I used 1 ticket on XIV (Papa AASB and Alphi Glint+) and the second one on VI (Terra Wind USB, Celes Double Spellblade USB, 2 dupe 5*s)

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Kaxon
01/22/21 2:20:12 AM
#20:


Did my ticket picks -
1/11 Celes G+ (actually pretty happy about this, it's not in the shop)
2/11 Shadow Sync, Leo glint

I have Shadow's chain so I guess this probably puts him ahead of Seifer (who I have chain and awakening for). If I could get his awakening too that would be great.

Also cleared my first 4 omegas. It's kind of a fun fight, not too gimmicky compared to magicite and dreambreakers. It was fun to get to play with my absolutely stacked physical holy team.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/22/21 6:10:11 PM
#21:


All 8 Omegas beaten! That was actually fun for the most part, he's tougher but I've gotten tougher too with more HAs and Orran. That Wind Weak one still sucks but it's so satisfying to overwrite his buffs with Orran.

I also got Terra's HA with the Anima Lens+ for the dreambreaker and went mage for Wind Weak Omega with her. I'm a believer in those 4 hit + 1 piercing hit HAs now!

I also got Ashe's HA to deal with Magic Leviathan and I had to get Garnet's chain from the gem select, but at least I finally beat this fucker!



That just leaves magic Valefor for me on 6* magicite.

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Ultimaphazon
01/23/21 11:17:35 AM
#22:


All 8 Omegas done. Not too hard, but not so easy that I could just steamroll them all either. I wish we had more content of this difficulty.

Fire-weak was surprisingly one of the worst. I ran Balthiers Chain and he couldn't even keep up with all that dampen Fire. Looking back after doing them all, I should have just gone fire magic and torn him a new one through the dampens.
Dark-weak was the other major pita. I couldn't handle the statuses with Aerith+Tyro as healer-support combo. I after I switched Tyro out for good old trusty Larsa, I got a fairly comfortable win.
I was worried about Ice-weak, since Serah with only her CSB and an imperil BSB isn't exactly an ideal chain holder, but my mage team supported by Cait AASB just kept the damage high despite his massive dampen Ice.
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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/23/21 8:07:28 PM
#23:


I beat fire weak Omega pretty easily with Vivi's Sync. Ace took most of the first half while Vivi stocked up command 2's and then he took off around 40% of Omega's HP with his command 1 before Omega could stack null fires.

Also it's ticket day! I got a dupe Vayne BSB :(

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Kaxon
01/24/21 3:40:27 AM
#24:


I cleared Ice Dragon (35.03) with a team of Celes, Shadow, Edgar, Relm, and Orran. Terra is my best VI character but this Dreambreaker is kind of a middle finger to Terra with both silence and barfire. So I decided to leave her on the bench and it worked.

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Lopen
01/24/21 2:49:14 PM
#25:




Finally beat Leviathan due to the Ashe sync off last fest and using the Awakening dream draws on Desch and Ashe. Now just Alexander and Diablos to beat. And the Wodins. And the 6* magicites of the other type. Lots of content left is what I mean to say!

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/24/21 3:58:56 PM
#26:


Don't forget realm Bahamut after the last dreambreaker and the labyrinth dungeons coming up with bosses with 7 million HP and 90% damage reduction savage modes! And they still have sub30 prizes!

I decided to pull on FF6 banner 1 since I'm gonna tackle the dreambreaker today in hopes of Relm/Mog stuff.

3/11 Mog Ball!

Kefka Glint+
Celes Awakening 2
Kefka LBO

:( well that didn't help at all. At least the ice boosting bracer is nice.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/24/21 6:21:42 PM
#27:


Alright I beat the Ice Dragon!!



Like most modern bosses this guy isn't even that hard despite all the gravity attacks but the bulk at the last phase is what screws me over. I was originally using my awakenings at the 15 second mark and letting Terra tear through his first two phases with 29999 attacks, but I wouldn't have any awakening time left for the last 30-20% and he'd out stall me, so I tried using Terra's fire awakening in the first/second phase and then the wind one after the 15 seconds were up but that didn't work either. So I actually used Terra's USB1 in the first phase and saved her Awakenings for the second phase and I finally had enough time to kill the little bastard in the third phase! Terra's USB1 is still surprisingly good because it lasts 25 seconds instead of 15 like most so it can still stack with other soul breaks in long fights like this.


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Lopen
01/24/21 6:30:18 PM
#28:


I felt real bad today cause my 20 chickens were eaten by coyotes

So I did 3 VI draws

Got

1/11 Celes Glint+
3/11 Celes Dyad, Relm Sync, Kefka LBO
1/11 Relm Glint+

Considering I didn't really want Relm stuff this was not a great set but Celes Dyad is cool

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/24/21 6:45:59 PM
#29:


Getting a realm healer sync/glint+ is always nice unless you're planning to use your off realm slot in the dreambreaker for a healer.

I'd trade the 3 things I got on my pull for that Relm sync in a heartbeat.

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Lopen
01/24/21 11:35:50 PM
#30:


Yeah I just have a lot of stacked healers and can off realm Yuna as a healer and think Relm is a bad character so it is what it is

It's not super terrible. Was aiming for Edgar realm chain and mog stuff mostly. And Kefka Sync

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Kaxon
01/25/21 12:25:01 AM
#31:


Relm is GREAT for the VI dreambreaker. Her USB1 means tons of instant actions for your team. Her USB2 gives last stand and has a periodic affect that overwrites sap. Both are available in the lens shop too. So I definitely wouldn't waste my off realm slot on a healer if you have her G+ and sync.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/25/21 1:01:38 AM
#32:


If you off realm Relm how are you going to deal with the 70% full break at the start of phase 3 if you don't have Mog Awakening 2? Remember Dreambreaker bosses get insanely bulky with their savage modes and are near impossible to break if you don't overwrite the full break. Taking two off realm characters will leave you at a huge disadvantage.

And like Kaxon said Relm is good in general for this fight with just her lensable stuff, and she got support *4 recently so she can wrath as well.

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Lopen
01/25/21 11:29:17 AM
#33:


Yuna can counter full break with her AASB2 that's the reason she'd be used

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mccheyne
01/27/21 11:04:44 AM
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Kaxon
01/27/21 1:08:20 PM
#35:


Anyone get anything good from the fest screw up gift? Sadly my sync was a dupe, Squall. I also got a Ricard LMR.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/27/21 6:15:20 PM
#36:


I got all dupes and I'm really irritated about that. Seph USB2, Rydia E water and Rinoa ice sync. I had like a 50% chance of getting a new sync too.

I didn't know Yuna's Awakening 2 was a full break counter... But she doesn't seem to be that good of an off realm character otherwise. No bard, dancer, critfix, stoneskin, Astra, support 4*+, her HP stock super isn't instant and she only finally got a proshellga glint+ like two weeks ago in Japan. She'll also lack as a healer because most of her medicas are moderate and she won't get mind synergy or Historia crystal bonuses.

I guess she's usable as a poverty option or if your DPS is good enough that you can skip most of the worst stuff, but I wouldn't use her over Relm in the 6 dreambreaker/Bahamut if you have Relm's sync and glint+.

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Lopen
01/28/21 9:07:12 PM
#37:


Used $80 of my $150 DOGECOIN profits on FF1 banner using gems

Got Sarah Syncx2
Garland Limit Flash x2
Garland Arcane Dyad
Garland Flash+ x2
Sarah Ultra

Darn I really wanted Garland Sync, Lively Thieves, or Garland Realm Chain

Sucks. Not terrible draws though.

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Kaxon
01/28/21 9:25:56 PM
#38:


More free tickets! That was unexpected.

II - Josef awakening, Hilda USB2
I - dupe Fighter USB2, Sarah USB3

Pretty excited about both healer USBs, they are both healing/regenga/party fastcast type.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/28/21 9:31:58 PM
#39:


what are tickets from

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Kaxon
01/28/21 9:35:55 PM
#40:


Book of Creation VII. I only see one there so I guess the other one came from some other mission. Maybe they were already there but never registered as complete for me for some reason?

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/28/21 10:12:25 PM
#41:


There's two tickets if you beat 48 diffrent magicite bosses. Still need magic Valefor or Wodin :(

Used my first ticket on FF1, got Echo's dualcast dance lmr... yay?

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Ultimaphazon
01/29/21 2:48:03 AM
#42:


Used both tickets on VI.
Locke AOSB, Relm BSB dupe
Celes AASB dupe, Terra BUSB, Locke en-fire LMR

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/29/21 10:19:37 AM
#43:


It could have gone a lot worse too, remember how crowded FF6 is, you could have gotten Umaro or Cyan fossils!

The MVP letter says that Dream selects are coming February 9th! Lot of new awakenings like Squall/Lightning2 and other fest stuff we've been waiting on! Sync selects should be standard now as well!

I can get Ysayle's awakening and finally beat magic Valefor and the Dreambreaker!

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/29/21 4:09:41 PM
#44:


I finally beat my first Wodin!



Sucks to give up on Prishe but Edge kicks her ass with his HA and glint+. Also some derp moments- I made a King Behemoth with crit damage up inheritance and swapped him in over Madeen with mind/heal boon, Prompto had 100 Magia in mind and HP since I haven't used him much since Leviathan so I swapped that for 100 in attack and lighting damage. Lighting had 100 magia in holy damage so I reset for lighting damage.

Also got the second ticket from the book and I got FF1 Thief's awakening. It's nice I guess but I prefer to go mage in FF1. It's a poison boosting hat so I guess it could be useful someday?

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Kaxon
01/29/21 6:05:36 PM
#45:


Congrats!

I did one pull on the event banner and got Thief's other awakening (1/11). I wish I had his other one now, I'm going to have to throw my upcoming tickets at FF1 for a while since there are so few options to pull for 1 in the next six months.

Also I beat Odin with my water magic team. I still haven't beaten Ifrit with my water magic team... I probably could do it but that fight was so annoying I'm just going to put it off until I get more power creep.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/29/21 6:48:13 PM
#46:


Seems like the FF1 dreambreaker is on the easier side and can be done with just two awakenings. 'Course the problem being it's FF1 a rare and mediocre realm outside of Meia. I'll attempt it when I have enough lvl2 anima lens to get Meia's dualcast LMR.

I was thinking water magic weak Odin for my first mage clear but the lack of magic imperil and that enwater lacking berserk seems scary.

Maybe I'll think it over if I can get new Strago goodies next fest when his HA comes out.

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Kaxon
01/29/21 9:18:24 PM
#47:


Berserk is annoying. You can obviously use Tyro's USB1 to dodge it but Tyro doesn't add much to a mage team so I tried something different and used Selphie as my healer. Her USB2 has astra and reraise so it solves two problems (turn 13 berserk and turn 15 death) at the same time.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/31/21 2:57:50 PM
#48:


I got 4 Odin Magicite! Now I got a level 99 Odin!



Also don't forget Maintenance is this Wednesday!

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mccheyne
01/31/21 4:12:50 PM
#49:


I've been doing login bonuses here and there, but haven't really played in a few months at the least. Just tossed my 50 mythril at the first FF VI banner. Got Kefka glint+ and Celes dyad.

So as someone who hasn't had a dyad before, how do you best use it? I have Celes' AASB as well as her ice chain as well.

I would like to start taking out 6* magicites, as I haven't done any yet (even though I assume I have the tools for most).

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/31/21 4:35:42 PM
#50:


Dyads are kinda a glint+ with a damage capbreak mixed with a AOSB. You'll want to use them before you use an Awakening/sync (preferably awakenings with HA because of rank boost damage) but they can also be used with DPS USbs if just need extra cap break time as well.

It's probably gonna be hard for a character like Celes to utilize it though because her damage stats kinda suck.

Which 6* magicite are you going to start with?

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