Board 8 > Raka finishes FF7R (spoilers up to chapter 17 and ongoing)

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Raka_Putra
01/13/21 6:35:48 PM
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Finally, after spending hundreds of hours in two weeks with Hades, I have the whim to finish FF7R - which will be only my third FF game I finish after FF6 and FF10.

Story recap:
After the shitheads at Shinra yeeted a whole plate (not the dining set kind) onto the Sector 7 undercity slums, Aerith agreed to be taken to Shinra Tower to save Marlene.

So we went to save her. Of course, what awaits in Midgar's most notorious megacompany was thousands of elite security guards ambushing AVALANCHE, ready to kill on sigh-- haha just kidding it's a museum tour.

So after we sat through hours of holographic nonsense (did they not do a final check on what the department heads are saying? most of them basically said 'bugger off') and climbed 50+ flights of stairs, we finally got to Hojo's lab, where they had imprisoned Aerith to use as a lab rat.

Hojo released a big dude he stole from Umbrella Corp. and Aerith showed us her childhood home with a cute drawing on the wall, aww. She vandalized Shinra facility even when she was a wee lass, truly a rebel at heart.

Then Wedge called us with the help of mayor Pizza Hut (or is it Domino? One or the other) and said we gotta get to the top to get extracted by AVALANCHE chopper the HQ sent for us.

Well, that's not happening anytime soon because we somehow (I honestly forgot how) got kicked to the depths of Shinra Tower, where they had all these labs full of biological monstrosity. And the worst of all is an OC named Red XIII who apparently shared the same voice actor with Cloud since they sound really similar to me.

And now we're making our way up again, mercy killing Shinra's secret life of pets all the while. The party is split up, with Tifa and Aerith on one side and Barret and Cloud on the other. ...I gotta say the boys' parts are much easier.

So yeah that's where we're at. I'm currently playing Cloud and Barret's part, we should be near the end since I'm already at, like, the fourth warehouse/cage/mini-boss lair.


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Raka_Putra
01/13/21 6:36:35 PM
#2:


Also I got the cheongsam for Tifa, best dress for Aerith, and the purple/black dress for Cloud. And Tifa's resolution scene.

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Raka_Putra
01/13/21 6:46:46 PM
#3:


Our next enemy is...*throws darts*
Flying...
Centipede...
Made of swords

It's pretty neat how we get to fight it with both parties though.


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Raka_Putra
01/13/21 6:51:07 PM
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Oh the team's all together again, yay. Maybe we can finally pick our party members.

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ctesjbuvf
01/13/21 6:58:56 PM
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tag

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skullbone
01/13/21 7:00:39 PM
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Fun fact the Swordipede (yes that's the real name) was a regular random battle enemy in the original FF7.

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Raka_Putra
01/13/21 7:04:00 PM
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skullbone posted...
Fun fact the Swordipede (yes that's the real name) was a regular random battle enemy in the original FF7.
Huh, it got a promotion, good for it.

Aaand we're finally at the final elevator. Aerith warns us that we can't turn back after this for sure. So if we want to go back, this maybe are last chance.
...yeah, there's just debris and dead animals there, nothing worth coming back to.

I guess I can make sure to level up my weapons and arrange my materia first though, I'll be doing that.

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skullbone
01/13/21 7:36:34 PM
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Raka_Putra posted...
Huh, it got a promotion, good for it.

Yessss, same with Hell House from the battle arena!

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Raka_Putra
01/14/21 12:30:34 PM
#9:


Here we gooo

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htaeD
01/14/21 12:33:06 PM
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Some old enemies just are too big to be random encounters, lol.

But I would have loved a stealth HELLHOUSE attack
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Zigzagoon
01/14/21 12:46:14 PM
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Red doesn't sound anything like Cloud, wtf are you on?

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Raka_Putra
01/14/21 12:58:04 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
Red doesn't sound anything like Cloud, wtf are you on?
Huh? Maybe I was mistaken then.

Also apparently there's this... ectoplasm thing on the floor... I don't know what it's all about.

One thing that's been bugging me is the existence of the Dementor-like wraiths/whispers/phantoms? Forgot what they're called. Didn't remember them being in the original.

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Raka_Putra
01/14/21 1:01:38 PM
#13:


We made it to the 70th floor, the President's Office, but nobody's here (isn't it like late night? maybe he's warm and snug at home).

Yet we hear someone calling for help...

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Raka_Putra
01/14/21 1:06:57 PM
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Oh the Prez is doing pull ups at the side of the building. He boasts that he has all the gil in the world.

Lol Barret picked him up and played with him like a cat playing with his toy.

...nice going letting him run, Barret, geez. I'm so upset.

He pulled out a golden gun straight from a James Bond movie. Blah blah I'm so evil. Should've dropped him when we had the ch--

Oh wow Sephiroth stabbed him just like that wow. And Barret too?! THIS ISN'T CANON!!

(Maybe, I didn't get very far in FF7 and it's been more than a decade)


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Raka_Putra
01/14/21 1:32:08 PM
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We fought off Jenova Dreamweaver, which I'm pretty sure is sort of a web service. Annoying fight with tentacles but it only took some patience.

Jenova Dreamweaver turned out to be a hooded Organization XIII member and Sephiroth, who might or might not be real, carried him away somewhere.

Barret is alive, apparently he's saved by fate. And by fate they meant "the game only allows three party members at a time so Sqeenix writers had to find a way to put Barret out of commission".

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SSBM_Guy
01/14/21 1:37:58 PM
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Jenova music is so damn good, especially that Phase 3

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Zigzagoon
01/14/21 1:46:50 PM
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Phase 3 Jenova theme <3

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htaeD
01/14/21 2:13:37 PM
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Phase 1 and 2 are good too, 3 wouldnt hit as hard without them.
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Raka_Putra
01/22/21 10:20:33 AM
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Up.

Hades is taking too much of my free time.

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skullbone
01/22/21 1:04:42 PM
#20:


You're very close to the end, maybe about 2 hours left.

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SaveEstelle
01/22/21 3:23:52 PM
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Well deserved promotion for Swordipede.

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Raka_Putra
01/31/21 2:19:26 AM
#22:


Save

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 1:11:56 PM
#23:


Okay here we gooo.

Sephy is carrying a mysterious shrouded figure?? WTF

Wait that's not actually him...

Yay we met up with the others too. Time to get on the chopper what could go wro- oh shit


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 1:13:40 PM
#24:


It's Refuse Shinra and he's taking his dog out on a walk.

Yeah Barret take Aerith and run NO I didn't say anything about Tifa and Red leaving please come back team work makes the dream work

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 1:29:00 PM
#25:


Man that fight was annoying as heck, not the least because I didn't really expect it to be a one-on-one and didn't put Cute materia on Cloud.

Tifa why are you here if you were going to help me you should've come sooner.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 1:32:44 PM
#26:


I forgot Wedge is here

Wedge: You're not gonna stop me! For Biggs! For Jessie!
Spirit: haha dementor weather goes brr


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 1:57:28 PM
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The Arsenal fight was also quite annoying but at least I had Barret, Aerith, AND Red. I'm surprised the building is still standing with all the pillars that got knocked down, nay, obliterated in that fight.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 1:58:48 PM
#28:


AVALANCHE!
Local florist!
Lab rat dog!

Fighting crimes, trying to save the world~

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 2:03:01 PM
#29:


Just as Barret, Aerith, and Red were surrounded by Heidegger and his lackeys, a motorbike came crashing in! I thought it was that random biker dude but turns out it was,............DUMBLYDORE I mean Cloud

And somehow Tifa stole a pick up from the nearest farm.

Oh man Cloud you were THIS close to introducing Heidegger to the back tire. Heidegger, back tire. Back tire, Heidegger. now kiss

We Fast and Furious now.


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 2:04:59 PM
#30:


FINAL CHAPTER, finalmente

...I still wonder why nobody questioned the appearance of these whispers. Are they just an accepted part of life these parts? Are they a kind of bird? Is there a whisper conservatory?? Whisper watching parties?

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 2:18:58 PM
#31:


Ah yes, chase sequence

My "favourite".


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:04:14 PM
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Holy shit this sequence sucks. It's hard to gauge if we're close enough and if I try to accelerate sometimes the game just refuse to do so?!!! Stupid ass gameplay go play some Mario Kart to see how it's supposed to be done.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:13:47 PM
#33:


Second game over. This game is rigged. I'm not saying this is why I left the game for Hades but I would be lying if I say I'm not considering doing it.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:21:14 PM
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Geez, glad that's over. Talk about ending the game in a whimper.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:21:57 PM
#35:


FF7R, or: Cloud Being Haunted by Visions of His Boyfriend


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:26:54 PM
#36:


"Everything about you is wrong."

Aerith you're speaking in riddles and it's not like you.

Also where are we going again? Why are we not just leaving.

Oh hey Zack. Wow didn't expect his voice to be like that.

FF7R, or: Aerith Being Haunted by Visions of Her Boyfriend

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:31:46 PM
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Wait what is Sephiroth doing again?

Aerith says we must stop him, which, of course, sure, you're our homie. But what is he trying to do?? Is he destroying something? Creating something? Reviving Jenova??

Oh great the game warned us that this is The Point of No Return. Time to prepare the best party ever only to realize that someone has to be left behind and now we're stuck with no Healing materia or something.


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:48:24 PM
#38:


Beyond this veil of particle effects you WILL meet GROTESQUE visions and BIZARRE adventures. Oh no I'm not ready to play FF Brave Exvius.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:56:08 PM
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And the final boss is...a gust of purple wind. Dammit nature.


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 9:57:08 PM
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Oh it's actually a giant Heartless.


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 10:29:59 PM
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And his lackeys are Mii Brawler, Mii Swordfighter, and Mii Gunner

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 11:01:14 PM
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This is all very Kingdom Hearts-y.

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 11:05:11 PM
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I'm fighting Sephy now.

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pjbasis
02/01/21 11:09:18 PM
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Raka_Putra posted...
This is all very Kingdom Hearts-y.

And they said I was crazy

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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 11:28:17 PM
#45:


SEPHIROTH
SEPHIROTH

Beat him but now we're apparently at the End of the World - I mean, Edge of Creation. What. Sephy is being cryptic as heck like usual. Huh. And he asked us to defy destiny together? Is this a promposal omg you really shouldn't. (I'm lost)


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Raka_Putra
02/01/21 11:36:43 PM
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Um
What the heck

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Raka_Putra
02/02/21 9:34:15 AM
#47:


So.

I finished the game!

Wow, it really went off the rails towards the end. I didn't know what happened, though maybe partially because I didn't get very far into the original FF7. But after reading a bit of the TV Tropes page, seems like Sephiroth goaded our crew to commit deicide against the Fate Arbiter so the concept of fate no longer exists in their universe. And Sephy did this because he knew he would lose and die in the original timeline. And that's also how Biggs survived. Okay?? I gues???

Man, it's a bit of a shame that they felt the need to make the last chapter epic by killing the embodiment of the concept of fate itself and by shoving Sephy in there. Well, hopefully the pay off in the next parts will be worth it. We'll see.

Overall, it was still a really good game. The graphics are breathtaking, the characters are endearing, the voice acting is excellent, and the gameplay...is not my favorite, but it worked most of the time. But against the bosses it can become easily repetitive and frustrating. You can't cancel most actions but the enemies have very quick attacks with slow to no wind up animation...
Also, materia are very important that there's little reason to use the weapons with less amount of slots. And they don't feel really unique other than the obviously magic-focused one and the attack-focused one. I had a weirdly easy yet hard time choosing the weapon for the final sequence because, well, they are more or less the same anyway and the boosts for elemental damage or increase defense if HP is low or whatever are negligible. Or at least felt like they should be negligible that I didn't care to try them out.

And the motoring part, less said about that the better.

The story itself was actually pretty good and easy to follow for the most part. But really, the characters were the highlights for me, especially Aerith. She's just such a joy to be around. Seeing Cloud slowly growing fond of everyone else and Barret with his boisterous yet caring attitude are also awesome.

Characters ranking:
Personality: Aerith > Barret > Tifa > Cloud (> Red)
Battle: Tifa > Aerith > Cloud > Barret


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skullbone
02/02/21 1:49:10 PM
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Bummer you didn't like the cuckoo ending but glad you liked everything else! I agree it was a little lame they felt like they needed a big epic finale but also did you want the game to end on the highway chase?

The ending moments do hit harder if you've played FF7 because all of those flashes during the last battle were FF7 moments they were seeing. Also those 3 ghosts you keep fighting are strongly hinted to be the bad guys from Advent Children: Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz. So the ending was exciting in the sense that they're pulling from all parts of the canon but also lame because it was typical Nomura nonsense even for FF7 fans.

I think the next parts will be better without fate ghosts running around but we'll see.

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Raka_Putra
02/03/21 8:04:55 PM
#49:


Yeah, that decision was understandable. Then again, since they were reimagining many enemies already, I suppose they could've gone that route if they really wanted to, in terms of finding a suitable final boss.

Ah, I see about the FF7 moments - I only recognized the Aeris scene, I think.

Huh, I didn't make the connection about Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo but then again it's been a decade since I watched that movie.

I'm looking forward to Yuffie in the next part! Also the other characters, I suppose. I do wonder if the next game will allow us to swap party members...but I sure hope so.

Some other random thoughts:

Thinking more about it, I think this game does big moments really well. It knows how to impress. Like when we got a remake of the original game's cover art and when the plate falls.

But the fights are another story. I like the random fights much more than boss battles since I can actually use all the tricks and Materia I have. But the bosses are cool, at least.

The dungeons...they are kind of long and can run for a bit too long at parts since they are just miles and miles of collapsed tunnel or sewers...

Summons are neat but it felt slightly annoying that the Summon gauge just appears on very specific fights (or at least it felt like it). And the portable VR thing to get some summons somehow struck me as out of place though, yeah, it's a bit nitpicky.

I like the expanded roles of Biggs, Wedge, and Jessie here. Really made it feel that Brett's crew is a solid one.

The mini-games are ok for the most part. None I am especially in a hurry to replay, but none of them were too painful. Though the too dynamic camera angles in the dancing minigame was...weird... Oh, I like the darts though. :p

Out of combat, the gameplay is actually considerably well-polished with some neat QoL things like inactive party members getting SP and us still being able to access their materia and equipment. Though I wish there was an easy way to compare the weapons side by side instead of going through their upgrade view and manually noting which +5% effects we've unlocked.

And I'm not in a hurry to play Hard mode at all, especially since we can't use items WTF.

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skullbone
02/03/21 8:38:41 PM
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Raka_Putra posted...
And I'm not in a hurry to play Hard mode at all, especially since we can't use items WTF.

Yeah you can't use items AND MP only regenerates between chapters or breaking boxes I believe. Benches don't even restore your MP lol.

I can't even really remember if breaking boxes restores your MP or not but I think it does. But honestly hard mode was a lot of fun and I played it immediately after beating the game.

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