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LordoftheMorons
01/13/21 4:41:39 PM
#351:


https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1349470248492281863

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Crescent-Moon
01/13/21 4:43:04 PM
#352:


KamikazePotato posted...
Should obviously be way more but 10 is okay enough. As far as optics go, it's way spicier than a single-digit amount.
Yep. 10 looks much better than 9 here.

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red sox 777
01/13/21 4:43:36 PM
#353:


Crescent-Moon posted...
It's a sad number, but 10 is the minimum number of righteous people required for a community to have the potential to be redeemable.

Good luck, Republican party.

You got this from the Sodom and Gomorrah part of Genesis, right?

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red sox 777
01/13/21 4:46:04 PM
#354:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/baseballot/status/1349470248492281863

She would have voted to impeach. The charges are proper and the evidence is there. If Trump didn't intend those things to happen he at least acted - to use a James Comey expression - extremely carelessly. That's enough to impeach.


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xp1337
01/13/21 4:47:23 PM
#355:


Inviso posted...
It's really weird to look this up and see that Andrew Johnson's own party unanimously voted for his impeachment, and it was the opposition that voted against it. Even then though, they threw two votes its way.

Jakyl25 posted...
It was a concession to try to preserve the Union IIRC
Yeah. Andrew Johnson was a Democrat who ran on the ticket with Lincoln (Republican, as the current GOP will continue to cling to ignoring the 150 years since.) He was the only sitting Senator from a Confederate state who didn't resign upon his state's succession and remained loyal to the Union. Lincoln picked him for ~unity~ in the 1864 election.

Upon Lincoln's assassination he immediately undermined Reconstruction by putting into action his own version of it that had the South erode the freedoms of the just freed slaves and was against the Fourteenth Amendment.

So this wasn't his own party voting for his impeachment. It was a split ticket so the roles were reversed.

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FFDragon
01/13/21 4:56:47 PM
#356:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ditzkoff/status/1349440318006042624?s=21

https://twitter.com/olivesaidso/status/1348312452375715841

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Wanglicious
01/13/21 5:01:54 PM
#357:


with so many twitter links not sure if it was covered but Mitch said senate isn't reconvening before Jan 19th.
so if they vote removal we're in for a constitutional question of whether the senate can do the trial of a president out of office.


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Forceful_Dragon
01/13/21 5:09:04 PM
#358:


Wanglicious posted...
out of office.

That's quite an assumption.

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masterplum
01/13/21 5:13:53 PM
#359:


I just had a thought

Do Democrats even want Trump to no longer be able to hold office? I would think if I was a 2024 presidential candidate I would love for Trump to win/ drive republicans into rascist positions again.

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xp1337
01/13/21 5:15:31 PM
#360:


masterplum posted...
Do Democrats even want Trump to no longer be able to hold office?
Yes. Full stop.

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Weird detail thing on the trial. The Chief Justice only presides when POTUS is tried... but does that apply when it's an ex-President? We're gonna find out all sorts of things I guess.

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CaptainOfCrush
01/13/21 5:15:49 PM
#361:


The guy is an actual danger and some things (like the health of this country and its people) are too important to be looked at from the narrow prism of politics.

Keep Trump away from public power forever.

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HashtagSEP
01/13/21 5:15:56 PM
#362:


masterplum posted...
I just had a thought

Do Democrats even want Trump to no longer be able to hold office? I would think if I was a 2024 presidential candidate I would love for Trump to win/ drive republicans into rascist positions again.

Yeah because that worked so well for Democrats the first time

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masterplum
01/13/21 5:18:20 PM
#363:


HashtagSEP posted...
Yeah because that worked so well for Democrats the first time

It.... Did?

I don't think most Democrats or Independents took Trump seriously in 2016. Once it was obvious it was serious Trump lost convincingly

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xp1337
01/13/21 5:20:06 PM
#364:


masterplum posted...
Once it was obvious it was serious Trump lost convincingly
uh the margin in three states that would have flipped the election back to trump (through an EC tie no less leading to a "one state one vote" scenario) was closer than the margin Clinton lost by in 2016.

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Jakyl25
01/13/21 5:21:09 PM
#365:


masterplum posted...
I just had a thought

Do Democrats even want Trump to no longer be able to hold office? I would think if I was a 2024 presidential candidate I would love for Trump to win/ drive republicans into rascist positions again.


No! No no no no no
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HashtagSEP
01/13/21 5:21:28 PM
#366:


Trump absolutely wins again after 4 years of a Democrat unless Biden is the greatest president of all time because you won't have the recency of Trump to drive up Democrat voters, but you will have the racist fervor of Trump voters once again.

I don't think you realize how barely Biden scraped by this time

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Yesmar_
01/13/21 5:22:08 PM
#367:


Damn, I just talked to my mom, and Trumpism has ruined another familial relationship! My aunt was supposed to fly down to help my mom move to a new apartment (which admittedly was probably not the best idea to begin with), and my mom had bought extra food, cleaning supplies etc., in preparation. My aunt calls today to say she is not coming down. Not because of COVID related reasons, but because some blogger she likes has been put on a No-Fly list, and she is never flying again in protest! They apparently got into a whole argument about Trump and everything, and my mom said she doesn't know if the relationship can be repaired.

The radicalization is real, y'all.

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Jakyl25
01/13/21 5:22:13 PM
#368:


masterplum posted...


It.... Did?

I don't think most Democrats or Independents took Trump seriously in 2016. Once it was obvious it was serious Trump lost convincingly


Yeah while getting millions of more supporters

Thats not worth it
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LordoftheMorons
01/13/21 5:22:32 PM
#369:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
The guy is an actual danger and some things (like the health of this country and its people) are too important to be looked at from the narrow prism of politics.

Keep Trump away from public power forever.
Trump is also a huge danger even as a candidate. It started before him, but without Trump we weren't going to have terrorists storming the Capitol. He has been a hugely corrupting force to his supporters, making many of them worse people than they otherwise would have been.

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Wanglicious
01/13/21 5:24:14 PM
#370:


masterplum posted...
I just had a thought

Do Democrats even want Trump to no longer be able to hold office? I would think if I was a 2024 presidential candidate I would love for Trump to win/ drive republicans into rascist positions again.

you don't need trump for that.
like trump himself would be too old in 2024 to practically run anyway, this would definitely serve an excuse for him to go "I'd run if I could but..." as he shills for his would-be successors, which he'd do anyway. but it does eliminate him from other offices as well as some benefits post-presidents get. also Dems are big on messaging so yes, they'd want it for that alone.

...though thinking about it, not sure if impeachment would prevent him from taking state office too. different government, after all.

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Jakyl25
01/13/21 5:26:16 PM
#371:


Yesmar_ posted...
Not because of COVID related reasons, but because some blogger she likes has been put on a No-Fly list, and she is never flying again in protest!


Would love to know if that even really happened to the blogger
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StartTheMachine
01/13/21 5:30:30 PM
#372:


https://youtu.be/MUoe_kyrvqk

when an insane conspiracy theorist turns on other insane conspiracy theorists

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Mr Lasastryke
01/13/21 5:31:58 PM
#373:


fun how both covid and trump are tearing families apart at the same time. if your family is still at peace, count your blessings!

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LapisLazuli
01/13/21 5:32:05 PM
#374:


StartTheMachine posted...
https://youtu.be/MUoe_kyrvqk

when an insane conspiracy theorist turns on other insane conspiracy theorists

"I'm sick of all these witches and warlocks!"

He's more of a goblin guy, afterall.

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Wanglicious
01/13/21 5:33:40 PM
#375:


xp1337 posted...
Yes. Full stop.

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Weird detail thing on the trial. The Chief Justice only presides when POTUS is tried... but does that apply when it's an ex-President? We're gonna find out all sorts of things I guess.

if they go for the trial he might show up just to eliminate having to deal with that question. technically the senate has ruled before that they've got jurisdiction on someone who resigned though obviously the actual courts would need to determine if that's valid or not. but internally, it should be "okay." since that guy was never convicted though no actual case to be made there. really does just come down to if they vote to convict or not. if they do, to the supreme court. if they don't, nothing mattered.

masterplum posted...


I don't think most Democrats or Independents took Trump seriously in 2016. Once it was obvious it was serious Trump lost convincingly

he lost convincingly electorally.
but that margin for votes was fucking tiny and needed 1) race wars, 2) a depression, and 3) a global pandemic, all in the same year, with multiple fuck ups on all 3 of them. he was legitimately the strongest candidate we've ever had and only lost because everything collapsed around him and he was too incompetent to pick any of it back up. he does one or two things right, he wins. that ain't "convincing," that's "mind who he picks as the chosen one."

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Turducken
01/13/21 5:36:12 PM
#376:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
fun how both covid and trump are tearing families apart at the same time. if your family is still at peace, count your blessings!

Haha, fuck you, COVID and Drumpft, my family was in shambles long before you ever showed up!
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VintageGin
01/13/21 5:36:56 PM
#377:


masterplum posted...
I just had a thought

Do Democrats even want Trump to no longer be able to hold office? I would think if I was a 2024 presidential candidate I would love for Trump to win/ drive republicans into rascist positions again.

Jesus Christ no. This is the kind of thinking that the Clinton campaign had that got us into this mess in the first place.

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red13n
01/13/21 5:45:51 PM
#378:


Wanglicious posted...
like trump himself would be too old in 2024 to practically run anyway, t

lol.

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ChaosTonyV4
01/13/21 5:52:45 PM
#379:


https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1349472081650466816?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
01/13/21 6:09:04 PM
#380:


https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1349481864680108033?s=21

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xp1337
01/13/21 6:24:17 PM
#381:


"Judge cites their military and police service in denying government's request for GPS monitoring, saying he believes they will follow his orders."

like it stopped them from breaking into the capitol, huh?

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UshiromiyaEva
01/13/21 6:25:08 PM
#382:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1349481864680108033?s=21

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It's dumb as shit that they're not behind bars at the moment, but at least they are still being charged for their treason. We can only hope it will stick.


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UshiromiyaEva
01/13/21 6:26:57 PM
#383:


xp1337 posted...
"Judge cites their military and police service in denying government's request for GPS monitoring, saying he believes they will follow his orders."

like it stopped them from breaking into the capitol, huh?

I think these were the selfie officers, which...I mean they LET them break into the capital, but technically they themselves didn't do so.

One could argue that as soon as they joined the crowd they ceased being officers and became part of the attack, though.

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Crescent-Moon
01/13/21 6:28:47 PM
#384:


That video showed just how scared Trump is of the impeachment in the Senate.

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charmander6000
01/13/21 6:29:07 PM
#385:


Wanglicious posted...
like trump himself would be too old in 2024 to practically run anyway

In four years he'd only be about five months older than Biden is right now.

Of course, Biden is already an anomaly, but assuming Trump is free to do so he can very well go for another attempt.

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PerfectChaosZ
01/13/21 6:30:49 PM
#386:


If theyre taking selfies theyre definitely not doing their job, at the very least. Id get fired if I ignored my work piling up to go take selfies with people.
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UshiromiyaEva
01/13/21 6:32:18 PM
#387:


https://youtu.be/hDNiNdsPHNA.

Holy shit he is so pissed about reading this script.

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Mr Lasastryke
01/13/21 6:32:23 PM
#388:


i think trump's health is a bigger factor than his age. if trump were super in shape, i could see him running again in 2024. but with the way he is, nah.

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StartTheMachine
01/13/21 6:33:30 PM
#389:


LordoftheMorons posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1349481864680108033?s=21

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First I was pissed off at this post, then I realized this was for the cops involved. It's shit, but it's more punishment than most cops get.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://youtu.be/hDNiNdsPHNA.

Holy shit he is so pissed about reading this script.
If insane facebook posts from your conservative friends make you wonder how people can be so goddamn naive, do yourself a favor and skip the YouTube comments.

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Wanglicious
01/13/21 6:39:23 PM
#390:


charmander6000 posted...
In four years he'd only be about five months older than Biden is right now.

Of course, Biden is already an anomaly, but assuming Trump is free to do so he can very well go for another attempt.

biden's already got mental decline and was pretty minimal on the touring/campaigning to make it easier on him.
trump meanwhile just wants to show off strength but if you take him right now he's already just slightly better mentally, much worse physically, and packs a significantly more difficult campaign schedule. add 4 years, he's not better on any category and physically can't keep up. for him it's honestly easier to find an excuse to not run but act like he would since that's ratings and feeds his ego more.

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Jakyl25
01/13/21 6:40:14 PM
#391:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://youtu.be/hDNiNdsPHNA.

Holy shit he is so pissed about reading this script.


The Trump hostage video

Blink twice if Mitch has you at gunpoint, Mr President
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FFDragon
01/13/21 6:43:47 PM
#392:


You could see the exasperation when he was forced to say "or Republicans" and did that little hand wave.

But you know what he definitely didn't say that could have started the process of healing that he claims we all need? "Joe Biden won the presidency in a free and fair election."

Until he says that, none of his chuds are going to back down.

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Kinglicious
01/13/21 6:46:40 PM
#393:


Even if he does say that they won't back down, they'll just spin it as he's being forced to say that concession or that he's got another plan with it. They're convinced it's rigged to a point Trump can't convince them otherwise.

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LordoftheMorons
01/13/21 6:49:33 PM
#394:


https://twitter.com/heathmayo/status/1349501294952603648?s=21

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LordoftheMorons
01/13/21 6:57:37 PM
#395:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
https://youtu.be/hDNiNdsPHNA.

Holy shit he is so pissed about reading this script.
Lmao he literally pivots into bitching about Twitter

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Forceful_Dragon
01/13/21 7:05:28 PM
#396:


At one point he says "I cannot emphasize that there must be no violence, law breaking etc"

Without the word "enough" being present in that sentence isn't he just saying the he is incapable of emphasizing that there must not be violence and thus tacitly supporting it?

It should be "I cannot emphasize enough that there must not be X, Y and X"

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Jakyl25
01/13/21 7:06:11 PM
#397:


Forceful_Dragon posted...
At one point he says "I cannot emphasize that there must be no violence, law breaking etc"

Without the word "enough" being present in that sentence isn't he just saying the he is incapable of emphasizing that there must not be violence and thus tacitly supporting it?

It should be "I cannot emphasize enough that there must not be X, Y and X"


Yes I caught that too
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Forceful_Dragon
01/13/21 7:10:26 PM
#398:


Even correctly worded, in reality it would be like this:

"I cannot emphasize enough that there must not be violence. And because it's impossible to emphasize it enough you can clearly see that I have scarcely tried. Except of course when they make me such as Charlottesville and even then I white it about it afterwards."

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ChaosTonyV4
01/13/21 7:15:31 PM
#399:


https://twitter.com/mattbinder/status/1349507969281642497?s=21

I cant wait for this mans career to sputter and die, but because we live in a hell world I wouldnt be surprised if he ends up President.

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StartTheMachine
01/13/21 7:17:33 PM
#400:


Eyepatched veterans are useful for playing identity politics

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