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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 7:34:19 PM
#51:


I doubt there ends up being any formal punishment for Hawley/Cruz (mayyyyyybe a censure or something). I could see Pelosi picking one or two House members to make an example of and have expelled (Mo Brooks, perhaps), but there's unfortunately no way she can realistically expel like 140 or however many of these fuckers there were in the House (and I doubt Kevin McCarthy either, even though he very much deserves it).

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 7:35:15 PM
#52:


https://twitter.com/mmasnick/status/1348784410171039745

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red sox 777
01/11/21 7:36:46 PM
#53:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I doubt there ends up being any formal punishment for Hawley/Cruz (mayyyyyybe a censure or something). I could see Pelosi picking one or two House members to make an example of and have expelled (Mo Brooks, perhaps), but there's unfortunately no way she can realistically expel like 140 or however many of these fuckers there were in the House (and I doubt Kevin McCarthy either, even though he very much deserves it).

You need a 2/3 vote to expel anyone. That's not happening. And you can't expel people for following the normal legal process. Pelosi isn't going to try that.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 7:36:50 PM
#54:


If Pelosi is going to go after anyone it's Boebert, who was keeping the terrorists up to date on Pelosi's location and movements on Twitter during the attack.

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 7:43:44 PM
#55:


red sox 777 posted...
You need a 2/3 vote to expel anyone. That's not happening. And you can't expel people for following the normal legal process. Pelosi isn't going to try that.
They're talking about using Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (though I'm not sure how serious they are). In particular, Mo Brooks went beyond in giving a speech at the Capitol rally where he said that today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass.

Though in looking up that quote, I found out that it looks like what they're actually doing is censuring him:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/mo-brooks-slapped-with-censure-resolution-over-riot-speech.html

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red sox 777
01/11/21 7:48:28 PM
#56:


LordoftheMorons posted...
They're talking about using Section 3 of the 14th Amendment (though I'm not sure how serious they are). In particular, Mo Brooks went beyond in giving a speech at the Capitol rally where he said that today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass.

Though in looking up that quote, I found out that it looks like what they're actually doing is censuring him:

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/mo-brooks-slapped-with-censure-resolution-over-riot-speech.html

Oh interesting. I think you really need a court to decide that though. It doesn't provide a mechanism for removal of a sitting member of Congress. Seating a member of Congress is done by majority vote but the only mechanism for removal of one by Congress is a 2/3 vote.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 7:48:37 PM
#57:


Can't help that we've got a number of the rioters going on record that they were "following Trump's orders"

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1348442018331172868?s=19

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 7:51:16 PM
#58:


Also, pretty important note here: PA GOP is still refusing to seat Brewster.

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Team Rocket Elite
01/11/21 7:56:37 PM
#59:


Is giving permission to be near or inside the Capitol Building something Trump is able to do? I'm just wondering how valid "we got permission to be here from Trump" is as a defense for the ones who aren't breaking or stealing anything.
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red sox 777
01/11/21 8:00:15 PM
#60:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Is giving permission to be near or inside the Capitol Building something Trump is able to do? I'm just wondering how valid "we got permission to be here from Trump" is as a defense for the ones who aren't breaking or stealing anything.

I doubt there's an American precedent on this. In England, the precedent is that the King DOES NOT have the right to enter the House of Commons, or to require the House of Commons to allow his people in. The US President must have less powers than the King, so I would say he does not have that power.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 8:09:04 PM
#61:


https://twitter.com/robcrilly/status/1348744790557519874?s=19

I really don't think that's gonna help much Ivanka. You still have the last name!

Ultimate power movie to distance themselves from their dad: change last name back to Drumpf.

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Xeybozn
01/11/21 8:10:49 PM
#62:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Is giving permission to be near or inside the Capitol Building something Trump is able to do? I'm just wondering how valid "we got permission to be here from Trump" is as a defense for the ones who aren't breaking or stealing anything.

If I remember correctly, the president actually needs Congress's permission to go into the Capitol building himself. Considering this, I find hard to believe the president is allowed to let other people in on his own.

But even if I'm wrong about that, Trump never explicitly said his followers were allowed to enter the Capitol. Trump's attention to not incriminating himself means his followers won't be able to use his words as an excuse.
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red13n
01/11/21 8:11:24 PM
#63:


Remember way way way back when we thought Ivanka might be one of the more intelligent and sane people in the room?

Fuck her.

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Mr Lasastryke
01/11/21 8:13:37 PM
#64:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://twitter.com/robcrilly/status/1348744790557519874?s=19

I really don't think that's gonna help much Ivanka. You still have the last name!

Ultimate power movie to distance themselves from their dad: change last name back to Drumpf.

i'm all for bashing ivanka but... a daily mail article? >_>

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Jakyl25
01/11/21 8:13:54 PM
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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 8:14:46 PM
#66:


Considering Forbes is basically blacklisting his entire staff, I don't think any Trump can actually distance themselves enough to have a future political career....except for Barron.

Awaiting Barron's run as a progressive in 2037.


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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 8:17:24 PM
#67:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
i'm all for bashing ivanka but... a daily mail article? >_>

I was just linking to the primary trending tweet.

...Raw Story ain't great either, though.

Hmmmmmm....

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 8:19:01 PM
#68:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1348794588018962435?s=21

Belichick bails on Trump

I wish there was even the tiniest shred of exaggeration in the fact that every sports related sleight against Trump is going to infuriate him more than being abandoned by his political allies.

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red13n
01/11/21 8:24:27 PM
#69:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/wsj/status/1348794588018962435?s=21

Belichick bails on Trump

Cant say I saw that one coming.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 8:28:41 PM
#70:


Something tells me Biden isn't gonna come to bat for those House GOP members who are telling him to make Pelosi back down.

https://youtu.be/5yt0gk4zovw

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KamikazePotato
01/11/21 8:31:59 PM
#71:


LapisLazuli posted...
Something tells me Biden isn't gonna come to bat for those House GOP members who are telling him to make Pelosi back down.

https://youtu.be/5yt0gk4zovw
Prob should watch the video

You got clickbaited

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 8:33:59 PM
#72:


KamikazePotato posted...
Prob should watch the video

You got clickbaited

I did watch it.

Turn your volume up!

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red13n
01/11/21 8:35:30 PM
#73:


Biden has long been on record that impeachment is not his job to decide. I expect little direct comment on impeachment specifically(He has at multiple points said he finds Trump unfit for office).

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 9:07:00 PM
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masterplum
01/11/21 9:26:52 PM
#75:


I think Biden being Impeachment agnostic is good for his messaging of trying to get people back together. The Democrats dont need Bidens support

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 9:44:19 PM
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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 9:49:13 PM
#77:


https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1348806511410163713?s=21

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kevwaffles
01/11/21 10:16:22 PM
#78:


Whatever that was it's gone.
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LordoftheMorons
01/11/21 10:20:17 PM
#79:


kevwaffles posted...
Whatever that was it's gone.
It was about this:
https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1348829494652653569

I guess the prior tweet was more definitive or something probably?

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 10:33:01 PM
#80:


https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1348788189322997762?s=19

Trump losing his primary bank is honestly going a lot further than I expected.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 10:50:25 PM
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Peace___Frog
01/11/21 11:05:35 PM
#82:


LapisLazuli posted...
https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1348788189322997762?s=19

Trump losing his primary bank is honestly going a lot further than I expected.
This is legitimately surprising. Glad it finally happened though.

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red sox 777
01/11/21 11:08:45 PM
#83:


Peace___Frog posted...
This is legitimately surprising. Glad it finally happened though.

Is it surprising? If I was DB I would have stopped doing business with him ages ago, like other banks apparently did. He's the kind of person who never honors a contract unless he is forced to. I have some trouble believing that DB actually made any money off of doing business with Trump given his penchant for defaulting on debts and litigation.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 11:13:10 PM
#84:


This list keeps getting bigger. Wonder how many donors each congressman's threshold is before they about face?

https://twitter.com/carlquintanilla/status/1348820398973079556?s=19

Cruz definitely won't turn, because he's betting his entire political future on getting Trump's base to vote for him in 2024.

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Leafeon13N
01/11/21 11:32:19 PM
#85:


Fuck those companies for their donations in the first place.
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StartTheMachine
01/11/21 11:36:27 PM
#86:


When you lose corporate America, that's when you really lose power.

I can't at all ever see Trump's base going for Cruz, which has made his ever-growing sycophancy quite hilarious.

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LapisLazuli
01/11/21 11:39:52 PM
#87:


Like, in what world will the alpha obsessed MAGA base latch onto Cruz? The man who famously became Trump's lapdog after his family was constantly belittled by him?

I would bet money that Cruz has that ugly ass neard now to try and appear more masculine. He's using YouTuber logic.

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StealThisSheen
01/11/21 11:52:27 PM
#88:


I mean it's not like Trump was actually alpha in the least, either

Just wait until Ben Garrison draws Cruz like he's Turok, Dinosaur Hunter a few times and they'll eat it up

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StartTheMachine
01/12/21 12:05:49 AM
#89:


Trump has a don't give a fuck attitude that morons mistake for masculinity; Cruz simply lacks that with every fiber in his being. Trump "feels authentic" to people even though almost everything he says is a lie. Everything Cruz says is also a lie, and it feels like he's lying.

I don't see it happening.

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LapisLazuli
01/12/21 12:08:17 AM
#90:


Tell him that!

To be clear, I don't think it happens in a million years. I just think that's what HE'S banking on.

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LordoftheMorons
01/12/21 12:15:32 AM
#91:


Just listened to an interview Tim Kaine did with Larry Sabato. It sounds like they're seriously considering censuring Hawley and Cruz and maybe (though it wasn't clear to me if this is under serious consideration or not) stripping them of committee assignments/seniority.

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xp1337
01/12/21 12:23:09 AM
#92:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Is giving permission to be near or inside the Capitol Building something Trump is able to do? I'm just wondering how valid "we got permission to be here from Trump" is as a defense for the ones who aren't breaking or stealing anything.
I don't know about the building itself off the top of my head, but as the others have said, he absolutely does not have the authority to enter the House chambers without the Speaker's permission. Before things turned into a riot and Trump was at his rally saying "Maybe I'll march with you" it was pointed out Pelosi could just kick him out if he tried.

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red sox 777
01/12/21 12:23:38 AM
#93:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Just listened to an interview Tim Kaine did with Larry Sabato. It sounds like they're seriously considering censuring Hawley and Cruz and maybe (though it wasn't clear to me if this is under serious consideration or not) stripping them of committee assignments/seniority.

They defied a direct instruction from Mitch, so wouldn't be surprised if they are stripped of some committee assignments.

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StartTheMachine
01/12/21 12:27:16 AM
#94:


https://m.independent.ie/news/former-miss-universe-ireland-chased-by-trump-supporter-in-washington-dc-as-riots-unfolded-in-capitol-hill-39941633.html

Former Miss Universe Ireland Fionnghuala O'Reilly was chased by a Trump supporter yesterday in Washington DC as riots unfolded in Capitol Hill.

She said that the man followed and yelled at her for wearing a mask while out for a run.

Taking to social media, the Irish-American model, who works for NASA as a datanaut, said that she was absolutely appalled to see the scenes in the city last night.

Im absolutely appalled. Im still shaken, she wrote on Instagram.

This morning, a man followed me, yelled at me, & chased me down because I wore a mask while on a jog. I had to run away from him to get away.

She also shared a video of the protester shouting at her.

He tells her that his grandmother is elderly and has beat the virus and can be seen running towards her before the video cuts off.

My grandmother is 75 with diabetes and she beat Covid, but here you are, running around with a mask on and like 33. Videotape me, I dont care, the man shouts.

This violence, this chaos is disgraceful. Our city is being terrorized, Ms OReilly wrote later.

what the fuck is wrong with these people

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01/12/21 1:10:20 AM
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LordoftheMorons
01/12/21 1:12:26 AM
#96:


Another covid+ member of Congress five days after being locked in a room with several anti-masker Republicans:

https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1348871117407203328

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LapisLazuli
01/12/21 1:39:00 AM
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01/12/21 1:41:12 AM
#98:


LordoftheMorons posted...
Another covid+ member of Congress five days after being locked in a room with several anti-masker Republicans:

https://twitter.com/RepJayapal/status/1348871117407203328

A 40 year old member of their caucus literally just died of coronavirus too.

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xp1337
01/12/21 1:59:39 AM
#99:


https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1348839749621055488

Trump already privately saying it was actually Antifa who stormed the Capitol. McCarthy, who still voted to block certification of the Electoral College mind you, was on the call and had to tell him it "was MAGA" and he knew because he was there.

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Also, an extremely damning report on what Trump was doing during the insurrection as it happened by WaPo: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mob-failure/2021/01/11/36a46e2e-542e-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html

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Washington Post reports...
But as senators and House members trapped inside the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday begged for immediate help during the siege, they struggled to get through to the president, who -- safely ensconced in the West Wing -- was too busy watching fiery TV images of the crisis unfolding around them to act or even bother to hear their pleas.

"He was hard to reach, and you know why? Because it was live TV," said one close Trump adviser. "If it's TiVo, he just hits pause and takes the calls. If it's live TV, he watches it, and he was just watching it all unfold."

McCarthy eventually reached Trump, but later told allies that he found the president distracted. So McCarthy repeatedly appeared on television to describe the mayhem, an adviser said, in an effort to explain just how dire the situation was.

But the twitter message was insufficient, and the president had not wanted to include the final instruction to "stay peaceful," according to one person familiar with the discussions.

At one point, Trump worried that the unruly group was frightening GOP lawmakers from doing his bidding and objecting to the election results, an official said.

Trump aides did three takes of the video and chose the most palatable option -- despite some West Wing consternation that the president had called the violent protesters "very special."

His calls for healing and reconciliation were more than a day too late, many aides said. Yet as Trump watched the media coverage of his video, he grew angry.

The president said he wished he hadn't done it, a senior White House official said, because he feared that the calming words made him look weak.

Final two excerpts obviously refer to the two different videos, with the one Trump regretting being the one on Thursday where he said there'd be a transition to a new administration.

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LordoftheMorons
01/12/21 2:17:28 AM
#100:


He's just an absolute piece of shit

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