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ChichiriMuyo
01/09/21 10:27:58 PM
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I noticed the old topic purged and figured I'd start a new one if anyone is interested.

So with Vega, the Watcher, Saw it Coming, etc and the U/W pathway coming in Kaldheim I can see the return of U/W control as a real possibility. Thankfully WotC seems to have learned from recent sets and made the card draw engine (Vega) a legendary card.

On a non-Kaldheim note I was playing Omniscience draft and got a pack 1 pick 1 Peer into the Abyss. What a ridiculous card in the format. My first game I had it in my opening hand and ended up with more than 20 power on board and I stripped my opponent's hand with a Bad Deal and a Mind Rot. With a Cancel in hand I literally won the game before my opponent even got a turn.

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pyresword
01/09/21 11:00:57 PM
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Not sure how the Kaldheim cards will shake things up but honestly I think U/W Control right now even is really underrated. I like it more than the Esper Doom Foretold decks that are running around for sure. Admittedly I don't think any full control build is a top tier deck right now, but yeah. (Unless you count Rogues as a control deck which I am not in this context)

Also I've been doing more Zendikar Rising draft and I actually really like the format once you learn what the archetypes are.
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ChichiriMuyo
01/09/21 11:14:10 PM
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I've got a U/W control deck I've played a little on Arena and it's alright, but it comes up a bit short of what you'd want for the archetype. I think the absolute worst feeling game I had with it was one where my opponent played one of my Dream Trawlers and completely stomped me with it. The deck needs something a little more, especially the f'ing Pathway. It has a lot of good tools, but it takes a lot more to put the game away than I care for.

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The Mana Sword
01/09/21 11:14:25 PM
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The foretell cards seem really strong to me. Still waiting on the inevitable foretell wrath, but the counter and draw spell are already a great start.

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banananor
01/10/21 2:01:00 AM
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I'm a little concerned, but hopefully I'm just being melodramatic

The foretell control deck looks like cancer

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MoogleKupo141
01/10/21 2:12:19 AM
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the giant that is basically Sulfuric Vortex while its in your graveyard if you have a giant seems like it could be very good

I want to see some cheap changelings to pair with jt
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UltimaterializerX
01/11/21 12:39:26 PM
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LMAO, what in the world?

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BlackDra90n
01/11/21 12:41:15 PM
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The Thor card is pretty hype.

Also, Phyrexian language Vorinclex mmm.

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ChichiriMuyo
01/13/21 4:22:02 PM
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Mystical Reflection has soooo much potential.

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pyresword
01/13/21 6:12:08 PM
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Maybe weird question but is there any good resource I can use to get info on the lore of MtG? It seems interesting, but I'm somewhat at a loss for how to approach catching up on lore when coming in relatively new to a 30 year old card game.
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masterplum
01/13/21 6:16:42 PM
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BlackDra90n
01/13/21 6:42:12 PM
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pyresword posted...
Maybe weird question but is there any good resource I can use to get info on the lore of MtG? It seems interesting, but I'm somewhat at a loss for how to approach catching up on lore when coming in relatively new to a 30 year old card game.

There's a lot of lore in the game. Your main options are Magic Stories (https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Magic_Story) and the books (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Magic:_The_Gathering_novels). I'd say pick a plane/story and go from there.

Alternatively, you could start with the Gatewatch stuff from Magic Origins onwards.

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ChichiriMuyo
01/13/21 10:15:44 PM
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You could also try the Fantasy Geographic youtube channel for MtG lore: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdQSoDdF2MR49D-kciFnDsw

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Peace___Frog
01/13/21 10:35:35 PM
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I enjoy a lot of the character- focused videos that Magic Arcanum has on their channel

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pyresword
01/16/21 11:38:33 AM
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Nothing better than topdecking the perfect card when your back is against wall.

Am currently playing Historic Goblins in the MTGA qualifier weekend and am on 2 losses. My opponent was playing some sort of Green/White midrange deck I'd never seen before. I'm not sure how good it is against the field at large, but they sideboarded (presumably) into Linvala Keeper of Silence as well as Kinjalli's Sunwing which both shut down my deck hard. 1-2 turns before their board was going to get too out of hand I draw Shatterskull Smashing to kill both of the above creatures and tap my Krenko that had done nothing almost all match to swing for game.

Looking at MTG Goldfish I can see several similar looking decks so I'm guessing this is a legit deck and I just never had run into it before, which is entirely possible considering I basically started playing Historic 2 weeks ago. (for example https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3688002#paper)
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ChichiriMuyo
01/18/21 10:28:28 PM
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Doomskar is crazy. Wrath the board for 3? Yes please, but only if I'm playing it thank you.

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UltimaterializerX
01/18/21 10:30:53 PM
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ChichiriMuyo posted...
Doomskar is crazy. Wrath the board for 3? Yes please, but only if I'm playing it thank you.
Best part is it's not a mythic rare.

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pyresword
01/18/21 11:02:02 PM
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Yeah Doomskar seems good. I've been somewhat lukewarm on foretell so far and have thought it wouldn't see much use outside of limited. Doomskar definitely tilting the needle away from that direction though, and I know there were at least 2-3 other solid ones also. I kind of hope foretell does see a lot of play since I just like control in general and think it seems neat.

I'm also actually quite excited about the Green/Black elf deck that seems to be a thing. I don't think I'll really be able to predict if it will be standard playable until people actually try it, but I really hope it is. There's also a potential for some really amusing infect synergy with Fynn, the Fangbearer and cards like Elvish Warmaster or Binding the Old Gods, though I have a feeling that aspect specifically might be a bit too gimmicky/situational to actually see serious play.
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masterplum
01/19/21 7:34:12 PM
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Doomskar might single handed make other foretell cards playable by also being used as a doomskar bluff.

You know the Aggro player who curved 1 drop into 2 drop is going to just be staring at that exiled card

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The Mana Sword
01/19/21 8:12:51 PM
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I think foretell is going to be pretty strong all things said, at least in a control deck. The counter, wrath and draw spell are all extremely good.

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