Current Events > Rewatching Rich & Morty - Do you undestand the show?

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If not - are you able to pass butter? O:)

Seriously though... The show is amazing as hell!
Im not saying its like "the smartest show ever", and i understand how that side of the fanbase might seem idiotic, but i wonder what the its biggest faults are, from people who have given it a fair chance, but dont like it.

If you dont like it, but based on what you like, its something "you should like", please recommend your favorite shows :)


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https://youtu.be/fIXSZe9AKJg

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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

Naysaspace posted...

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them.

And yes, by the way, i DO have a Rick & Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid

The first time i read this, i laughed :P haha

When i saw it was something that a lot of R&M-fans kinda believe, i found it to be another kind of funny, haha :P

But those fans seems to be the most irritating aspect to those who refuses to give the show at chance, so i wonder if more people would have loved it, if they managed to see through "those"

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Insanely overrated show.

Rich & Mortgage
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Season 3 was basura

yunalenne10 posted...

https://youtu.be/fIXSZe9AKJg

As someone who can easily get so infatuated with something that im an easy mark for certain products, i love it xD but its outside of my "X > Uusefulness"-area.

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DDirtyDastard posted...

Insanely overrated show.

At what criteria do you judge it to be overrated?

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I highly doubt that much of the fanbase is like that one "you have to be smart to understand" meme.

That said Rick and Morty is awesome, yes.

It is a passable show. I hate Rick, for some reason we are this point where people love cynical assholes. I mean he is just such asshole I can not find it funny.

Also the fans think about the show a a lot more then the writers . They come up with theories and stuff trying to explain things. When they writer just throw it in there without caring at all .

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Alkeez posted...

As someone who can easily get so infatuated with something that im an easy mark for certain products, i love it xD but its outside of my "X > Uusefulness"-area.

Same. I almost pre-ordered it when I first saw the commercial.

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I appreciate the horribleness of rick. its cool to see a straight up villain be front in center. the bite sized sci fi cramed in a dysfunctional family drama is also pretty unique too.

venture bros kinda do that to a lesser extent with rusty being a piece of shit on the reg...I like it quite a bit more tho.

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I liked Season 1. I don't really remember too much that stands out from 2 onward except cringe.

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cjsdowg posted...

It is a passable show. I hate Rick, for some reason we are this point where people love cynical assholes. I mean he is just such asshole I can not find it funny.

Also the fans think about the show a a lot more then the writers . They come up with theories and stuff trying to explain things. When they writer just throw it in there without caring at all .

Im not sure who "we" are? I personally think i need a good reason to relate to the cynic. And people i talk to daily seem to give it a chance/like it because of how it at least tries to be different (maybe just compared to Family Guy and Simpsons?)
I find Rick interesting because he has those moments where he understands human emotions and sometimes chooses to not give a f - and i think if that choice wasnt explored, i would stop caring, but it seems to have som clear depth

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cjsdowg posted...

I hate Rick

I think that's the whole point. The show wants you to realize that Rick is kind of a shitty person and not to be idolized. At first glance they want you to believe an infallible scifi superhuman fun genius with all the same dumb humor and desires as everyone else, but the episodes show he's not able to handle responsibility towards any of the relationships he has with people despite reaping the benefits, and that inability passively and actively hurts his family.

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Rick and morty hit the right notes season 1 by offering so many different backgrounds for adventure. It seemed like the show had limitless possibilities and ideas

then the next few seasons focused on character development for some reason despite the characters being in the mold of Seinfeld....no one wanted character development.

then it had talking dragons who just want to have sex with everything I think? I cant remember but it got real bad

then you rewatch season 1, no longer entranced by the limitless possibilities because you know it gets worse and then you realize even though its still good, it doesnt compare to the top seasons of South Park, simpsons, futurama, etc. at all

super overrated show, its marketed towards enlightened hippies but not legitimate ones, rather just the crowd that wants to rave at electric forest and really like yoga.

lemondrop7 posted...

Rick and morty hit the right notes season 1 by offering so many different backgrounds for adventure. It seemed like the show had limitless possibilities and ideas

then the next few seasons focused on character development for some reason despite the characters being in the mold of Seinfeld....no one wanted character development.

then it had talking dragons who just want to have sex with everything I think? I cant remember but it got real bad

then you rewatch season 1, no longer entranced by the limitless possibilities because you know it gets worse and then you realize even though its still good, it doesnt compare to the top seasons of South Park, simpsons, futurama, etc. at all

super overrated show, its marketed towards enlightened hippies but not legitimate ones, rather just the crowd that wants to rave at electric forest and really like yoga.

I kinda feel like you are looking too much at "the adventure"-part - and not enough at what ideas that are being explored and what they reference?
Like watching Seinfeld for its acting.

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Alkeez posted...

I kinda feel like you are looking too much at "the adventure"-part - and not enough at what ideas that are being explored and what they reference?
Like watching Seinfeld for its acting.

no the show just became a parody of itself and tried to add character development to make it all work. Perfect example is in season 1, the whole wubbalubbadubdub is mocking absurd catch phrases in sitcoms. Pretty easy reference. Easy joke that works.

then the next season he turns himself into a pickle and actually has a catchphrase Im pickle rick! He gets into a fight with some guy named Jaguar? And then he has some big emotional moment with some therapist and his family. It just was stupid senseless action and aimed at people who would buy a pickle Rick t shirt unironically. They probably saw how crazy people went over the McDonalds sauce and said crap we need to market ourselves to these people theyll eat up anything.

season 1 did have many good references. Like I said its a good season. I like the one where he shrinks down for Christmas. But it declines quick

Master Kazuya posted...

I think that's the whole point. The show wants you to realize that Rick is kind of a shitty person and not to be idolized. At first glance they want you to believe an infallible scifi superhuman fun genius with all the same dumb humor and desires as everyone else, but the episodes show he's not able to handle responsibility towards any of the relationships he has with people, and that inability passively and actively hurts his family.

Im not sure how shitty he is.. he has reacted in situations in ways he himself would argue to be illogical, which is a point of his character. He seems to want to appear shitty - so that he has no moral expectations, maybe cause he feels those limits him and he wants to feel limit-less?
When pushed, he seems to want to have his family around - i think this will be explored more, but i dont think its just for personal gain. (and i think this arc will disappoint me at some point)

My guess is that he is exploring some part EQ/SI or something that is outside of Counsil of Ricks way of thinking - which will make him the ultimate bad guy, even when he does the "super right" thing - then tie it up to some kind of family-way of thinking

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BuckVanHammer posted...

I appreciate the horribleness of rick. its cool to see a straight up villain be front in center. the bite sized sci fi cramed in a dysfunctional family drama is also pretty unique too.

venture bros kinda do that to a lesser extent with rusty being a piece of shit on the reg...I like it quite a bit more tho.

Well, Rusty is quite a bit more sympathetic than Rick and nowhere near as much of a monster.

I really enjoy the show, myself, and thought Season 4 was very strong and the Phoenix Person fight in the finale was lit. But I think the show has a problem brewing: we all know Rick is a psychopathic, self-hating, lazy ass god who cannot stand to be challenged or called out on what he does or how he feels about it it's low-key pathetic that Rick is so terrified of facing his emotions that he rigged Dr. Wong's office with multiple possible emergency exits but that's been true since season 1.When is Rick going to get his comeuppance, or at least, actually admit to himself(or even Morty!) how he really feels there's some glimmer of hope on that front: he straight-up admits to himself that he's a terrible father in the Season 4 finale.

lemondrop7 posted...

no the show just became a parody of itself and tried to add character development to make it all work. Perfect example is in season 1, the whole wubbalubbadubdub is mocking absurd catch phrases in sitcoms. Pretty easy reference. Easy joke that works.

then the next season he turns himself into a pickle and actually has a catchphrase Im pickle rick! He gets into a fight with some guy named Jaguar? And then he has some big emotional moment with some therapist and his family. It just was stupid senseless action and aimed at people who would buy a pickle Rick t shirt unironically. They probably saw how crazy people went over the McDonalds sauce and said crap we need to market ourselves to these people theyll eat up anything.

season 1 did have many good references. Like I said its a good season. I like the one where he shrinks down for Christmas. But it declines quick

Are you sure it wasnt just an excuse to put on a seatbelt infront of Beth? :O

Just kidding :) On a more serious note - wether or not that was "for the t-shirts" - do you not believe that some content creators are willing to put extra work into stuff that seems simple? For all i know, this was just Dan being trolly and made something without any sense into the show, then make youtubers pick it apart and find sense where there isnt, but the change in Rick isnt sporadic .... it does seem to have some kind of structure to it


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Alkeez posted...

Im not sure how shitty he is

Puts Morty in constant danger
Constantly holds a grudge against Jerry for "taking" Beth from him (when in reality Rick abandoned Beth and Jerry stuck around)
Manipulates situations to make Jerry look shitty
Abandoned Beth as a child
Abandoned his original Beth because he Kronenburged the entire planet
Abandoned Gaia and her kids
Erases things from Morty's mind against his will
Endangers his family in two ways, having dangerous people targeting him and also the experiments/equipment he keeps in their house
Doesn't pay bills even tho he uses a lot of electricity and clearly can acquire enough wealth to pay for everything
Doesn't respect Beth's conditions for being allowed to stay with the family again (misses family therapy on purpose, etc)
Wants to not be alone but doesn't want to work on relationships when they suffer

These are just off the top of my head.

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Master Kazuya posted...

Puts Morty in constant danger
Constantly holds a grudge against Jerry for "taking" Beth from him (when in reality Rick abandoned Beth and Jerry stuck around)
Manipulates situations to make Jerry look shitty
Abandoned Beth as a child
Abandoned his original Beth because he Kronenburged the entire planet
Abandoned Gaia and her kids
Erases things from Morty's mind against his will
Endangers his family in two ways, having dangerous people targeting him and also the experiments/equipment he keeps in their house
Doesn't pay bills even tho he uses a lot of electricity and clearly can acquire enough wealth to pay for everything
Doesn't respect Beth's conditions for being allowed to stay with the family again (misses family therapy on purpose, etc)
Wants to not be alone but doesn't want to work on relationships when they suffer

These are just off the top of my head.

I probably phrased myself in a bad way.

Intentionally is something i should have put in there. Kinda like - how "evil" could he be, if he put his mind into it. He is more apathic than evil, but he shows some form of morality (even though he argues that an illogical construct) sometimes.

As someone who have listened to a lot of religion vs atheism debates, Rick seems to be put right in the middle there - there is pure logic, which he seems to want to follow, then theres something holding him back. Maybe its not Morty, maybe its not Beth, maybe not even family... maybe its just the idea of feelings or tradition?

I get your point. What he does IS shitty! And he shouldnt be excused for it - but i think also he is someone who, in our modern society, would aknowledge needs help!, yet he is close to a god in how he protects himself from it. And maybe thats a lesson?

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I passed on the show after the first episode, because I didn't like rick.

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PMarth2002 posted...

I passed on the show after the first episode, because I didn't like rick.

I can really understand this! Some of my friends REALLY just hated Rick after the first episode and just quit. It seems that if you can get through 5 episodes (or something) youll be hooked.

The burping in the first episode seems to ruin it for a lot of people

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Alkeez posted...

He is more apathic than evil, but he shows some form of morality (even though he argues that an illogical construct) sometimes.

As someone who have listened to a lot of religion vs atheism debates, Rick seems to be put right in the middle there - there is pure logic, which he seems to want to follow, then theres something holding him back.

Idk, I think you're trying to force the show to be about science vs religion or logic vs illogic when it's not (except maybe for 14 year olds on Reddit it might be, which you very well may be idk). Forcing the show into whether Rick is logical or illogical strips away soo much of the entire identity of the show. He's a fucking scientist alcoholic. Being that much of an alcoholic is "illogical". I'll give you an assignment like I give my high schoolers because I shouldn't have to spell it out. Why do you think alcoholism is a core trait of Rick's character?

Walter White is a similar example. You're meant to root for him in the beginning but by the end, you realize what effect he actually has on his family. Skyler goes from being an annoying bitch to revealing she actually has decency in times that matter and it's on purpose and very explicit in the show's writing. People who still think Walter is the hero hold onto some false idolization. You think Rick is cool and so does everyone else which is why they even like him but if you're looking at straight up narrative structure, the show leans more and more into showing the actual consequences of Rick (even of multiple Ricks in the citadel and how Rick's negligence gives rise to Evil Morty).

Alkeez posted...

Maybe its not Morty, maybe its not Beth, maybe not even family... maybe its just the idea of feelings or tradition?

You have it backwards. It's not that he wants family but doesn't need it. It's that he needs family but doesn't want it.

Alkeez posted...

yet he is close to a god in how he protects himself from it. And maybe thats a lesson?

No, you still are coming from the frame of Rick is perfect, so we just straight up disagree

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Yeah, honestly, the pilot episode is pretty weak.

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