Poll of the Day > Grunt and legion are probably the two best companions in ME

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FatalAccident
12/26/20 12:25:54 PM
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Shame you get them so late in the game wtf

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Blightzkrieg
12/26/20 12:30:41 PM
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Getting the perfect ending in ME2 requires having Legion for only 1 mission

It's really stupid.

Grunt is one of the first companions though right? I thought he was part of the first wave.

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TheOkHornedRat
12/26/20 12:39:04 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Getting the perfect ending in ME2 requires having Legion for only 1 mission

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FatalAccident
12/26/20 1:15:34 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Getting the perfect ending in ME2 requires having Legion for only 1 mission

It's really stupid.

Grunt is one of the first companions though right? I thought he was part of the first wave.
I recall getting grunt mid-late game. The guy is virtually indestructible with his shield skill maxed out and his shotgun turns to basically a rocket launcher. He is insane, I might be getting timeline mixed up though but I def didnt get him early on

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papercup
12/26/20 1:30:46 PM
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I remember I played ME2 like years after it was out, and I was shocked that I somehow didn't get Legion spoiled for me. That blew my mind when he joined me lol

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lihlih
12/26/20 1:33:22 PM
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"Does this unit have a soul?"

God, even that awfully written ME3 had sparks of genius here and there. WTF happened to Andromeda?!
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Hospy
12/26/20 1:33:57 PM
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Legion was the only companion I enjoyed talking with and having around.
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FatalAccident
12/26/20 1:34:57 PM
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lihlih posted...
WTF happened to Andromeda?!
EA happened. Honestly.

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Blightzkrieg
12/26/20 1:40:11 PM
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papercup posted...
I remember I played ME2 like years after it was out, and I was shocked that I somehow didn't get Legion spoiled for me. That blew my mind when he joined me lol
I found out later that they actually spoiled legion in some kind of Dev commentary leading up to the release of the game

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EvilMegas
12/26/20 9:08:22 PM
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Weird way to spell tali and wrex.

Legion and tali are the best in 3 though.

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Kimbos_Egg
12/26/20 9:12:24 PM
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weird way to spell garus tali and wrex.

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BlackScythe0
12/26/20 9:16:22 PM
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lihlih posted...
WTF happened to Andromeda?!

At least part of it is the policy EA had requiring them to use an engine intended for FPS games that had no systems for rpgs.
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Mead
12/26/20 9:18:37 PM
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Easily Tali

Not even a contest

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Kimbos_Egg
12/26/20 9:32:55 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
At least part of it is the policy EA had requiring them to use an engine intended for FPS games that had no systems for rpgs.

If you think the gameplay was the problem, you either have never played it before or are completely blind to quality.

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BlackScythe0
12/26/20 9:36:47 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
If you think the gameplay was the problem, you either have never played it before or are completely blind to quality.

It was probably the biggest issue the development had to dismiss it is absurd. There were all kinds of problems but honestly I enjoyed the game while I played it and was expectant for the sequel with how the ending went.
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Kimbos_Egg
12/26/20 9:39:57 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It was probably the biggest issue the development had to dismiss it is absurd. There were all kinds of problems but honestly I enjoyed the game while I played it and was expectant for the sequel with how the ending went.

the only real problem with the gameplay was the pointless open world, the combat becoming generic and boring due to having every skill, and the lack of enemy types.

These are the very least of the problems with the game.

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FatalAccident
12/27/20 12:29:58 AM
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fuck Tali, literally havent even used her since mid-campaign in ME1

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 12:33:07 AM
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legion*

tali*

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 12:35:19 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
At least part of it is the policy EA had requiring them to use an engine intended for FPS games that had no systems for rpgs.
yeah, that argument does not hold up when you consider the fact that dragon age inquisition used the same engine, and came out years before andromeda.

that reason only came about by people trying to find any reason to not blame bioware for making a bad game, and it immediately fell apart given the evidence.

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Lokarin
12/27/20 12:43:25 AM
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i kinda wanted to play them again, but they really messed up the PC versions

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funkyfritter
12/27/20 1:53:10 AM
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What's wrong with the pc versions? I've never had any problems with ME2 or ME3 on pc. The first game has some issues, but that has more to do with how old it is than any issues caused by the platform.

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Lokarin
12/27/20 1:55:22 AM
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funkyfritter posted...
What's wrong with the pc versions? I've never had any problems with ME2 or ME3 on pc. The first game has some issues, but that has more to do with how old it is than any issues caused by the platform.

basically it's the controls. It's a console game but the PC version uses a weird psuedo-mouse which is just bonkers.

If you already play Mass Effect with keyboard and mouse then no issues

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TheOkHornedRat
12/27/20 3:58:10 AM
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ok but what do you all know about indoctrination theory
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FatalAccident
12/27/20 4:24:22 AM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
ok but what do you all know about indoctrination theory
That its not official

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 5:07:20 AM
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it's pretty much official given the ending

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Unbridled9
12/27/20 5:59:27 AM
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I really disagree. IMO Miranda and Tali are the two best with Samara a veeeery close third.

Miranda goes from being a Cerberus loyalist to defecting from Cerberus. Her loyalty lies with her family above all else. She's genetically tailored to be perfect yet chose to rebel against the man and life who gave her those gifts in favor of freedom for both herself and her sister. Tha

Jacob is... really flat. The problem with him being so prim and proper is that it came at the expense of his personality. When he confronted his father instead of feeling... anything... towards him I felt more like I was just relieved the quest was over. Jacob's reactions throughout the mission were just underwhelming and at no point does he really seem to develop as a character.

Garrus is a bro. No doubt about it. The only problem is that all his development happened off-screen. That annoyed me to no end especially since I was hoping to get to explore more about what happened in the time between. Even a quick bit following his mission where you could explore the base and interact with some of the objects from his squad would have gone a long way here.

Jack... UGGGG!!! I hate her. She's a rebel who rebels for the sake of rebelling. A directionless loose cannon with emotional baggage. While ME3 did show she finally found something to care about which was REALLY good I can't help but feel like... it was the writers attempting to save an otherwise-unlikable character instead of a natural progression of her character.

Mordin is fun as heck. He's always surprising me. I really like him. Which is why it's a shame that they make the genophage a huge part of his backstory and character. Especially since, as time has gone on, I've come to side against curing it despite the game HEAVILY pushing for curing it to be the 'good' choice. Makes the mission in ME3 so annoying because I would have to betray two characters I like, including one who knowingly laid down his life, if I wanted to avoid curing it.

Thane. Exists. My issue with Thane is really simple. They were trying for the dying assassin with one last job... which could have worked if he actually DIED in 2. Instead it gets waylaid till 3 unless you're a putz and I feel that's a bit too long both in and out of universe for his character to work.

Grunt. Grunt almost works. A tank-born super soldier engineered to be the perfect krogan. It ALMOST works! Except he turns out to just be Wrex Lite. Wrex is cool, yes, but I never felt like Grunt really grew into his own distinct character in either 2 or 3. Instead he was more of just 'we need a Krogan but Wrex is on the planet' than anything else. If he had developed his own hobbies or something I would have a much higher opinion of him. Like, I dunno, have him and Ashley get together to read Hemmingway, or Grunt start to admire Justicars or value the subterfuge of the Shadow Broker or just... Something more distinct from Wrex. Maybe have him try to pick up genetic engineering from Mordin because of his unique birth.

Kasumi: Really liked her. Too bad she's optional DLC at best with only conversation snippets for interaction and a minor cameo in 3.

Zaeed: Pretty much the same problem as Kasumi. Optional DLC character with only snippets of conversation. Made more annoying though by the fact that SO much of his problems would have been resolved or not existed if he had just told the truth from the start and such. Second-worst companion in 2 easy.

Tali: Tali grew as her own from the naive girl in 1 to the mature leader and potential heroine she is in 3. 2 is a solid stepping stone on that road especially since she's given a hard choice effectively between her identity as a quarian and preserving her father's legacy. Especially since it also is a huge part in deciding if the quarians went to war or not. Too bad 3 messed this plot point up BADLY and they went to war at the stupidest possible time.

Samara: Effectively an Asari Paladin. She seemed really flat and her acquisition mission doesn't do her justice. Then comes her loyalty mission in which she has to kill one of her own daughters. A daughter she loved but, at the same time, is condemned to kill because she's effectively an asari vampire. In 3 she even opts to potentially kill herself instead of offing her final daughter. Really love her as a character. Such a shame her intro mission is garbage.

Morinth: If you have her on your team you're an idiot. Especially if you romance her. Terrible character through and through and only exists so people can continue to have an asari on the team if they killed Samara.

Legion: Whooo boy. This is going to annoy people so much. I do not like Legion. Plain and simple. The Geth 'redemption arc' did not go over well for me. First off, they have a rogue faction going about but don't bother to tell anyone that the two factions are different at ALL? Then they act confused as to how the rogue geth could be so different despite them literally having come to worship reapers and other things? Did the Geth shut off every radio and television in Geth space and shoot the space newspaperboy when he came around? Geth issues aside, I REALLY don't get why people like him. He's there for only a short bit in 2 and he's largely absent in 3. Even in 2 he... feels static as a character. Which is really bad when his loyalty mission basically resulted in me having to choose between brainwashing or destroying literally thousands of other Geth. Not only did I hate that decision (brainwashing vs. death) but Legion doesn't really react or give it the gravity it should have. Placing it right at the end of the game was a poor choice as well since it meant I had to interrupt saving my crew to do Legions mission. That felt SO wrong to me on every level. It would have made a lot more sense if he not only joined earlier but if he had reacted with more gravity regarding the decision there.

And there we go. I know at least some of you will say it's terrible but that's how I felt about the ME2 companions.

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Kimbos_Egg
12/27/20 6:02:37 AM
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Joe_Biden posted...
it's pretty much official given the ending

No.

destruction is now canon.

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FatalAccident
12/27/20 8:02:16 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Samara
Lol

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TheOkHornedRat
12/27/20 10:26:40 AM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
No.

destruction is now canon.

Which is the correct selection if you actually understand indoctrination theory
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Blightzkrieg
12/27/20 10:28:13 AM
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The indoctrination theory is nothing but pure concentrated fanboy desperation. It's like a dude proposing to his girlfriend while she's in bed with another man.

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lihlih
12/27/20 10:32:36 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
The indoctrination theory is nothing but pure concentrated fanboy desperation. It's like a dude proposing to his girlfriend while she's in bed with another man.


It's at least better than the "choose your light show color" ending we got from Bioware.
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FatalAccident
12/27/20 10:33:56 AM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
Which is the correct selection if you actually understand indoctrination theory
Stfu about indoctrination theory lol nobody cares its a good YouTube video but obviously not real

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SeahorseCpt89
12/27/20 10:35:00 AM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
If you think the gameplay was the problem, you either have never played it before or are completely blind to quality.
There were worse things about it, but the gameplay wasnt good either.

On topic, Liara and Garrus are my two squad mates throughout the trilogy (except 2, where I had to replace Liara with Miranda, except for the Lair of the Shadow Broker mission).

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EvilMegas
12/27/20 11:22:36 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
fuck Tali, literally havent even used her since mid-campaign in ME1
Cool, adding you to the list.

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TheOkHornedRat
12/27/20 12:38:09 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
The indoctrination theory is nothing but pure concentrated fanboy desperation. It's like a dude proposing to his girlfriend while she's in bed with another man.

FatalAccident posted...
Stfu about indoctrination theory lol nobody cares its a good YouTube video but obviously not real

Probably the best part of indoctrination theory is how upset it gets you nerds. It's like the one punch man of video game theories. All you gotta do is tell someone how he could kick goku's ass and they get their panties in a twist
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Blightzkrieg
12/27/20 12:40:02 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
Probably the best part of indoctrination theory is how upset it gets you nerds. It's like the one punch man of video game theories. All you gotta do is tell someone how he could kick goku's ass and they get their panties in a twist
Takes a really high IQ to understand the indoctrination theory

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EvilMegas
12/27/20 12:41:16 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
Probably the best part of indoctrination theory is how upset it gets you nerds. It's like the one punch man of video game theories. All you gotta do is tell someone how he could kick goku's ass and they get their panties in a twist
This is the nerdiest sentence in this topic.

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FatalAccident
12/27/20 12:42:04 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
Probably the best part of indoctrination theory is how upset it gets you nerds. It's like the one punch man of video game theories. All you gotta do is tell someone how he could kick goku's ass and they get their panties in a twist
Calling ppl nerds and then you start talking about one punch man and goku lol

Let it go its not a real thing lol

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TheOkHornedRat
12/27/20 12:43:34 PM
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See what I mean? Look how mad it's got you guys.
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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 12:51:51 PM
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indoctrination theory is literally canon lol

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BlackScythe0
12/27/20 1:47:40 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
indoctrination theory is literally canon lol

"Theory" you know what that means right?
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FatalAccident
12/27/20 3:05:44 PM
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TheOkHornedRat posted...
See what I mean? Look how mad it's got you guys.
Keep talking about goku kid lmao

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AugustDreaming
12/27/20 4:33:25 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
fuck Tali,

That's what I did when I played the game.

Also just throwing in Thane is pretty great too.

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 5:04:36 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
"Theory" you know what that means right?
theory is used for lack of a better word for it.

anyways, there's lore in andromeda that confirm it


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Kimbos_Egg
12/27/20 5:05:11 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
indoctrination theory is literally canon lol

its not though. its never been. and the new trailer debunks it but okay

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Kimbos_Egg
12/27/20 5:05:35 PM
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Joe_Biden posted...
theory is used for lack of a better word for it.

anyways, there's lore in andromeda that confirm it

No there wasn't. you're literally making up bullshit.

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Unbridled9
12/27/20 5:07:54 PM
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Indoctrination theory is not canon.

I mean, don't get me wrong, it DOES make some sense.

But it requires the writers of ME3 to be good enough to handle something like that. Considering how badly they botched a lot of other things in 3 I don't think they are.

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TheOkHornedRat
12/27/20 5:48:16 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
"Theory" you know what that means right?

right. indoctrination theory is a "theory" in the same way that evolution and gravity are theories.
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Blightzkrieg
12/27/20 5:52:39 PM
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Indoctrination theory is just nerds making up a name for "it was all a dream" so they don't sound stupid

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Joe_Biden
12/27/20 6:15:58 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
No there wasn't. you're literally making up bullshit.
go read the codex you nerd

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