Current Events > Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but why is Trump pushing for $2k?

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What's his motivation behind this? Does he think this will buy him a next term?
Did he take Rand Paul's speech about "if we're giving free money, why not $1000 or $2000" literally?
Was it merely another way of saying "tl;dr" to those 5,000 pages?

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because he wants to derail the deal entirely. maybe because he thinks it'll hurt mitch. maybe because he's a vindictive asshole.

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he wants an extra 2k for himself too

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He wants the stimulus to not pass. Hes burning it all down on his way out.

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So we think he's nice and don't put him in jail.

cause the deal is dog **** and he saw the opportunity to derail it for the sake of derailing.

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Most likely this will just push things back for Biden to deal with and puts biden in a tough spot. Biden can veto and everyone gets pissed that 'dems are delaying the stimulus' or he accepts it and 'biden doesn't care about the people, trump did'.

He's just trying to play politics


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MaddenDude-- posted...

He's just trying to play politics

it may be the reason.... but i gotta lean on option 2# he's trying to punish mitch for defecting to the enemy.
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MaddenDude-- posted...

Most likely this will just push things back for Biden to deal with and puts biden in a tough spot. Biden can veto and everyone gets pissed that 'dems are delaying the stimulus' or he accepts it and 'biden doesn't care about the people, trump did'.

He's just trying to play politics

Why would Biden veto this? Democrats across the board want a stronger stimulus package, they're all voicing support for it

He doesnt want Biden to pass another one and get credit for turning around the economy. He wants it to be done in his watch and damn the consequences.

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Rathinor posted...

Why would Biden veto this? Democrats across the board want a stronger stimulus package, they're all voicing support for it

If they don't actually agree upon 2k checks

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Probably hoping his cult will recognize his show of generosity and kick it back to him with campaign donations (basically indirectly looting the treasury)

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I don't give a fuck. It's not bad for him to do it.

He wants to screw Mitch McConnell for making him lose.

Obviously someone with a brain cell made a passing remark that Mitch cost him the election by not letting him do a huge stimulus before it.

He probably also wants the PR of being able to say he handed a great economy over to Biden.

Probably trying to get back at Mitch McConnell

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Now there's an old phrase nobody uses anymore - looking a gift horse in the mouth.

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It's a bit of trying to get back at Mitch and a bit of him trying to leave office with some good will.

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Or that the stimulus deal is so bad that even Trump won't play around with it. It's funny how all these democrats were against the deal until Trump was against it.

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He wants to look good, not that anyone, including he himself, can figure out if he means it.

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BignutzisBack posted...

It's a bit of trying to get back at Mitch and a bit of him trying to leave office with some good will.

It's this, added in with talking news away from his recent pardons

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Same reason he put his name on the first round of stimulus checks. So all the poor people think it's all Donald Trump helping them out, which is kind of ironic, because historians will probably look back on the last 4 years as the Mitch McConnell presidency.

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monkmith posted...

because he wants to derail the deal entirely. maybe because he thinks it'll hurt mitch. maybe because he's a vindictive asshole.

My thinking too. There's always an angle.

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dude has already lost re-election and the best simping excuse I'm hearing is that he wants to look good lmao

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KiwiTerraRizing posted...

He wants the stimulus to not pass. Hes burning it all down on his way out.

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The amount of people who still think trump is a genius capable of grand conspiracy is funny.

He wants credit that's all there is to it. He wants to say that he gave people 2k.

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Just to remind everyone you had the best damn president this country ever had but you threw it all away for an ancient swamp creature who will sell your children's future away to China.

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Kolibri X posted...

Just to remind everyone you had the best damn president this country ever had but you threw it all away for an ancient swamp creature who will sell your children's future away to China.

I mean FDR died, wasn't much we could do there

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Because he knows all of his cultists will just give it to him.

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monkmith posted...

because he wants to derail the deal entirely. maybe because he thinks it'll hurt mitch. maybe because he's a vindictive asshole.

Thread should have ended here lol

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To distract from the pardons he gave out.

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Yesssss he vetoed

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Kolibri X posted...

Just to remind everyone you had the best damn president this country ever had but you threw it all away for an ancient swamp creature who will sell your children's future away to China.

It's always 5 o'clock somewhere but it's too early to be this fucked up. Lay off the sauce dude.

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MaddenDude-- posted...

If they don't actually agree upon 2k checks

Why wouldn't they?

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JBaLLEN66 posted...

Or that the stimulus deal is so bad that even Trump won't play around with it. It's funny how all these democrats were against the deal until Trump was against it.

I'm against any bill that gives corporate welfare. Much like people companies should have savings in the bank to weather a rainy day, or they should adapt their business model.
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harley2280 posted...

I'm against any bill that gives corporate welfare. Much like people companies should have savings in the bank to weather a rainy day, or they should adapt their business model.

Although I understand and respect that perspective, even people/businesses who had savings are out of cash, as they had to rely on that to get through the past months, some for the better part of this year.
Even if some of them could adapt (and I approve of it when people/businesses get by on their own strength if they can), many simply do not have the luxury of that option.

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Aressar posted...

harley2280 posted...

I'm against any bill that gives corporate welfare. Much like people companies should have savings in the bank to weather a rainy day, or they should adapt their business model.

Although I understand and respect that perspective, even people/businesses who had savings are out of cash, as they had to rely on that to get through the past months, some for the better part of this year.
Even if some of them could adapt (and I approve of it when people get by on their own strength if they can), many simply do not have the luxury of that option.

To offer some clarification I think we need a social safety net for people. However corporations shouldn't get welfare. The Fed is already messing with things by pumping billions into the market to make the illusion that we're doing great. We don't need to turn around and pay CEO's bonuses so they can cut labor to save cost.
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JBaLLEN66 posted...

dude has already lost re-election and the best simping excuse I'm hearing is that he wants to look good lmao

I'm glad you stopped pretending to be a centrist chud and are back to being a trumpist chud.

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Kolibri X posted...

Just to remind everyone you had the best damn president this country ever had but you threw it all away for an ancient swamp creature who will sell your children's future away to China.

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Kolibri X posted...

Just to remind everyone you had the best damn president this country ever had but you threw it all away for an ancient swamp creature who will sell your children's future away to China.

You mean the President whose personal lawyer is confirmed to be a Russian spy? Or the one who had the department of homeland security kidnapping Americans off the street for using their first amendment rights? Or the one who did absolutely nothing to curb the spread of the pandemic? Or the one that talks about how inspiring he finds dictators?
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He's occasionally right for the right reasons

And he sees Pelosi getting shit on do he wants to smear it

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I don't think it's wise to ascribe complex motives to Trump: he's profoundly simple. He's always wanted at least $1,200 checks, but he was too lazy/unfocused to ever really push for them, which enabled Mitch to stonewall Democratic efforts to secure further stimulus in peace.

Now that the election has happened, I think there are likely two reasons Trump has suddenly seized on the $2,000 checks: the first being that, to the extent that he understands that he lost, he likely believes sending out more checks could have saved(or could save him, lol), something that's probably actually accidentally correct(in the first case). The second is that he's angry at Mitch and the Republican leadership for only half-heartedly backing his attempt to steal the election and he sees this as a way to get back at them(because they don't want to do this).

Whatever his reasons, Pelosi actually did a great job of seizing upon the statement to push for them to actually happen, which allows them either actually happen, or forces the Republicans to publicly kill the proposal, allowing Ossof and Warnock down in Georgia to make the point that electing them will net you a cool $2,000 (at least) over re-electing Perdue and Loeffler, the people who DON'T want you to have $2,000!

ElatedVenusaur posted...

. The second is that he's angry at Mitch and the Republican leadership for only half-heartedly backing his attempt to steal the election and he sees this as a way to get back at them(because they don't want to do this).

This!!

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It's a distraction from the people he's pardoning.

JBaLLEN66 posted...

Yesssss he vetoed

Different bill. He vetoed the military budget bill.

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Kolibri X posted...

Just to remind everyone you had the best damn president this country ever had but you threw it all away for an ancient swamp creature who will sell your children's future away to China.

Not sure if serious. Real Poe's Law moment here.

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Bishop9800 posted...

Saving this LOL

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ElatedVenusaur posted...

or forces the Republicans to publicly kill the proposal, allowing Ossof and Warnock down in Georgia to make the point that electing them will net you a cool $2,000 (at least) over re-electing Perdue and Loeffler, the people who DON'T want you to have $2,000!

Do you honestly believe the voters will be smart enough to vote out perdue and loeffler even if Mitch doesn't pass the 2k cheque?

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3PiesAndAFork posted...

Do you honestly believe the voters will be smart enough to vote out perdue and loeffler even if Mitch doesn't pass the 2k cheque?

It's an argument that can be made, that is both sound factually and appealing ("Vote for me, and I'll literally give you money!"). It may not make a huge difference, but then both elections are expected to be pretty close.