Board 8 > Coronavirus Topic 13: Back to Normal: The Finale: Take 1

(+) Yeah! (+)

I use this tracker for case totals.

https://youtu.be/NMre6IAAAiU

We have two approved vaccines. Pfizer and Moderna. Both are mRNA vaccines with approximately 95% efficacy. This should be the last topic hopefully for this virus. Yay!

---

Corrik7 posted...

This should be the last topic hopefully for this virus. Yay!

Somehow I doubt that.

---

You jumped the gun on this one a bit.

---

This is take 1 and based in the last topic this topic will take 6 months to fill.

---

I feel like this topic series will reach about 15 before we're truly done. Though maybe not since there seems to be a lot less conjecture to be made about the state of things than there were back from March-June.

---

https://twitter.com/trvrb/status/1340409968818671616

I really appreciate this thread from Trevor Bedford about what the future will look like as we get disparities in immunity levels worldwide from vaccine distribution, and antigenic changes the virus may have. If it seems a little dour at first, just keep reading because it's largely just precautionary and more in the realm of something for virologists and vaccine manufacturers to keep in mind across the next decade.

It's good context to keep in mind considering the news of a variant identified in the UK.

---

PSA since Ive seen a few things indicating that people might have a misconception about this: once you get a vaccine it takes a while for you to acquire immunity (a little less than two weeks for the RNA vaccines, and then of course you wont have the full effect until after the second dose), so its important not to let up on distancing etc immediately.

---

Everyone in my family is dying

---

iiaattgg posted...

Everyone in my family is dying

Seriously? My sympathies that sounds terrible.

---

Esuriat posted...

It's good context to keep in mind considering the news of a variant identified in the UK.

With that in mind, I have little doubt it's basically everywhere now. Several countries in Europe are suspending travel to and from the UK because of it, but I'm already seeing reports that it's confirmed in Netherlands and Italy. Speculation is that it's around 70% more transmissible, no word on severity changes from the variant, it's likely the vaccines still work on it.

iiaattgg posted...

Everyone in my family is dying

I'm so sorry, Sess

---

70%? Jesus

If true that makes me a lot more pessimistic about getting to herd immunity through just vaccination (given current polling on how willing people are to be vaccinated)

---

Yeah, that's what the UK's health authorities are claiming based on figures of its spread in the South East region of England.

It would certainly explain the rampant U-turns that have been seen in several European countries when their increased controls appeared to be working in bringing down the daily case counts and then they suddenly... weren't working anymore.

And it of course got worse even faster for the countries who relaxed those controls even a little bit already.

---

exactly one year ago, there were 60 cases in hubei.

---

Yeah from the sound of things the variant is more infective, but not any more deadlier.
---

God I hope they pass that relief soon.

htaeD posted...

Yeah from the sound of things the variant is more infective, but not any more deadlier.

More virus in the world means more chances for mutation, if you want the doom and gloom take.

MyMainAccount posted...

Seriously? My sympathies that sounds terrible.

Two grandparents and an uncle within a week. My girlfriend has it but it is mild

---

Looks like week after Christmas the boost/extension starts, Perfect. Until March 14th.

Literally the day I start my new job. Can't make that stuff up.

Anyways, sorry to hear about your family, Sess. I hope the rest of your family manages to avoid it and recover if they are affected.

---

iiaattgg posted...

Two grandparents and an uncle within a week. My girlfriend has it but it is mild

T's and P's to you and yours, bud. That really sucks

---

https://globalnews.ca/news/7535146/coronavirus-vaccine-variant-protection-who/

---

Sorry to hear that Sess...

Things are still pretty grim here in Indonesia with record death cases and case numbers in the thousands. Found out yesterday that one of my friends got it, and another friend's father did as well. Scary stuff.

---

Guess whose fiancee lost all her smell an hour ago.

---

How many days did she go to work?

---

charmander6000 posted...

How many days did she go to work?

All of them. She isn't sure if it is a sinus attack or covid. (Her son was negative). I told her to just go tomorrow and tell them she has lost smell and taste at the beginning of the shift before she clocks in. If they send her home, to go get tested. She is still trying to talk about going to her sisters for Christmas, in between crying fits about possibly having it. I told her she should have taken it more seriously and hopefully even if she doesn't have it that maybe the fear of having it now will end the not taking it serious and vaccine nonsense. Doubtful! But one can hope!

---

The best course of action is to get her tested. The son could have been a false negative or she could have gotten it from someone else.

I hope the talk of seeing her sister was more hoping she doesn't have it rather than her wanting to go regardless...

---

Loss of taste and smell is covid's most specific symptom. She very likely has it, and it would be extremely irresponsible for her to go in to work or to her sister's.

---

charmander6000 posted...

The best course of action is to get her tested. The son could have been a false negative or she could have gotten it from someone else.

I hope the talk of seeing her sister was more hoping she doesn't have it rather than her wanting to go regardless...

She knows she isn't going. She had a rude awakening 2 days ago. She was all upset her sister didn't invite her to her birthday, and I was like duh... Your son was just possibly positive. They don't care he came back negative. What are you expecting? I think that's when she realized that the people talking nonsense weren't gonna be nonsensical when it came down to it at her expense.

Of course, this probably ruins my new job since they aren't going to take kindly to me not going to my first days of work if she is.

She did have sinus stuff the last day or two. (I think she actually gets allergies, but she refuses to get tested for it because she hates going to doctors for whatever reason).

No joke this conversation has happened.

Her: Doctors say I get sinus issues all the time and need medicine for it.
Me: How do you know you never go to them.
Her: when I went 7 years ago they told me I need to see an ENT for it.
Me: they probably said you need to see an ENT to try and see if that was actually what was going on
Her: No, I need medicine. I can't just take normal sudafed for it. It does nothing. The only thing that seems to work is sudafed with antihistamines.
Me: maybe it is just allergies.
Her: No it is sinuses.
Me: Okay, well, I mean antihistamines is mostly for use against allergies. Maybe only that works because you actually just need an antihistamine for your allergies and it's not actually a sinus infection. You should get an allergy panel done to make sure.
Her: it's fucking sinuses. God you never listen to anything.

So, who knows. I could see losing smell to a sinus infection or allergies. She ran a neti pot pretty extensively the day before. But, the loss of taste I can't imagine anything but covid.

She can't smell vinegar which almost made my eyes burn to smell, and I told her to drink a small bit of it to see if she could taste it, and she said very faintly and had no normal bitter reaction to it. = /

So, I am guessing she is positive.

---

Corrik are you in an abusive relationship?

PerfectChaosZ posted...

Corrik are you in an abusive relationship?

---

Please refrain from snogging her for the time being, just to err on the safe side.

---

Had to look snogging up.

---

Corrik7 posted...

She can't smell vinegar which almost made my eyes burn to smell, and I told her to drink a small bit of it to see if she could taste it, and she said very faintly and had no normal bitter reaction to it. = /

...uh, yeah.
i don't know what makes you lose both like that besides covid.

and frankly it's surprising that it took THAT long. guess it's time for your girl to become a super spreader.


---

I thought your new job didn't start until March, Corrik. But anyway, sorry to hear.

She most assuredly has Covid, but her overall sinus issues might be chronic sinustitis, which I have. But yeah, she needs to go to the ENT and have a CT scan to get that verified. Probably shouldn't take Allegra/Claritin D/Flonase everyday.

---

Also the neti pot works in clearing out your tubes but it can also increase your chances for sinus infections

---

Rapid. 100% positive.

---

colliding posted...

I thought your new job didn't start until March, Corrik. But anyway, sorry to hear.

She most assuredly has Covid, but her overall sinus issues might be chronic sinustitis, which I have. But yeah, she needs to go to the ENT and have a CT scan to get that verified. Probably shouldn't take Allegra/Claritin D/Flonase everyday.

Supposed to start on Monday.

---

Corrik7 posted...

Rapid. 100% positive.

and not one person is surprised.
also her argument of "when i went 7 years ago" made me laugh.
like lady, a doctor you went to 7 years ago telling you something may not be the ultimate source of what's plaguing you today.

---

Can't wait to die right before a fucking vaccine for a virus. Yay?

---

Can't start at work until January 18th at the earliest now.

---

congrats on your monkey paw wish regarding unemployment.


---

Wanglicious posted...

congrats on your monkey paw wish regarding unemployment.

You do realize this means Trump just killed the relief bill right? There is zero way I ever see an unemployment boost lol.

---

Ughhh why do we let someone who knows he isnt going to be the president anymore spitefully decide these things, they should be able to go over his head.

PerfectChaosZ posted...

Ughhh why do we let someone who knows he isnt going to be the president anymore spitefully decide these things, they should be able to go over his head.

Technically they could, but I doubt they would have enough votes to override him.

---

charmander6000 posted...

Technically they could, but I doubt they would have enough votes to override him.

It was veto proof majorities originally, but you already have Democrats who are behind Trump's idea and republicans who likey will follow Trump if he would veto on the revote.

---

Virginia is still getting a little worse for infection spread and it sucks. Positivity rate has been about in the 10-12% range for weeks now.

So it's not getting as bad as acutely as other places have so the likelihood of the whole medical system getting overwhelmed is not as high. But it's still agonizingly prolonged.

---

Hey Corrik, how are you doing?

---

charmander6000 posted...

Hey Corrik, how are you doing?

Alright. She seems relatively okay. Just lost taste and smell. Sleeping a lot and some sniffles, but she seems fine. Nobody else has shown any symptoms really as of now.

---

Oh, but so you know what I am dealing with. The day after my girl asks her mother if she will pick up stuff from the store for her. She asks her to just let her know when she is coming, she will sanitize the card and leave it on the porch for her, and she can drop the groceries off on the porch and the card when done.

NOPE.

Her mother shows up with no warning, literally just walks straight into our house uninvited (number pad lock she knows the combo to), makes her daughter come give her the stuff personally... despite my girl screaming to leave the house she can't be in here or she will get sick... and her mother retorts "Come on... who cares. It's not like its a serious thing anyways." Refuses to leave for like 10 minutes. Goes to the store. Comes in again without invitation. Refuses to leave for 5 more minutes. Finally leaves.

Of course her mother also went to christmas stuff wherever also and so on. So, if she were to get it... yeah. My girl is wearing a mask 24/7 basically though and isolating mostly to our kids room out of the way, with my kid staying down stairs with me.

---

i see the denial runs in the family.


---