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kateee
02/02/21 1:00:47 AM
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kateee
02/02/21 1:11:25 AM
#202:


honestly the update i'm kind of looking forward to is the summoner appearance change?

i really fucking hate the default look and while the premades they have now aren't really what i'm looking for, hopefully it means more are coming later?
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barreldragon88
02/02/21 1:25:36 AM
#203:


Seiros better not win. I'm about to go back into her banner since no CYL banners

I'm very happy it looks like Elincia performed her best in this CYL!

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Yankees
02/02/21 9:12:08 AM
#204:


I think Seiros is a pretty sure bet to make it into the voting gauntlet at least.

My free seasonal was Duo Peony. If I only I could take those NY banner orbs back

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Cybat
02/02/21 10:47:14 AM
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Easily the best anniversary so far, although that's not a high bar. They found a way to "demote" the old 5*s without actually demoting them which might make summoning more interesting at least.

I am a little annoyed though because I had been expecting there to be x2 sp and exp (if not x4) for a while and there's nothing. Bleh.

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Dark Young Link
02/02/21 2:08:03 PM
#206:


Alright, let's look over the Heroes in the Special Hero Summons(And overhype myself because there's no guarantee for any color). Note that unless a hero is especially busted, I won't go over their own combat ability.

Red:

V!Conrad - Trash. Impact sword has use. (4*)

Duo Idunn - Steady Stance 3, Duo skill negate armor/dragon weakness.

Young Caeda - DC and Joint Hone Atk. Busted Prf weapon

Young Marth - Meh fodder, strong Prf weapon. (4*)

Bridal Oboro - Atk/Res+ Rally, Odd Pulse Tie. Situational guard weapon.

Summer Joshua - Fortify Def 4, Incombat debuff Bow(-5 Spd/Def)

Duo F!Byleth - Atk/Spd Push 4, Ruptured Sky, Ground Orders.

Brigid - Lull Spd/Def solo bow, Steady Impact, Pulse Smoke

Duo Sigurd - Atk/Res Bond 4, Atk/Res Lull, Joint Hone Res, Cav Dancer

Halloween Dheginsea - Sturdy Stance 3, Slick Fighter, Lull Atk/Res solo breath

Zihark - Better Brave Sword. Otherwise trash.

Harmonic Altina - Jackpot. (Atk/Res Unity, Null C-Disrupt, more fruit, bodies Cav Emblems)

NY!Kaden - Atk/Def snag. Otherwise trash. (4*)

Blue:

V!Rudlof - Special Fighter, Threaten Atk/Def 3

Spring Est - Fury 4.

Spring Narcian - Trash, but Gilt Fork(Atk/Def+5 and negated penalities to Atk/Def if within 2 spaces of ally) (4*)

Duo(Trio?)Palla - Mirror Impact. Duo gives +1 to herself and adjacent Flying allies.

Groom Rafiel - Gives -1 cooldown to support partner. Otherwise, trash. (4*)

Summer Lute - Flora Guide is basically the best inheritable blue tome. (4*)

Summer Ingrid - Sturdy Impact, Guard Bearing

Geese - Flowing Lance, Infantry Pulse (4*) TOO EASY!

Dancer Quan - Atk/Def Bond 4, Joint Hone Def. Situational damage reduction bow.

Duo Tiki - Rally Up Spd+ and Atk/Spd Push 4. Duo is a dance that can dance a dancer as well.

Ninja Navarre - Flashing Blade 4, Lull Spd/Def, improved Brave Lance.

Holly Jolly Hilda - Atk/Def +5 and Guard Candy Cane(If within 2 spaces of ally), Even Follow-Up

NY! Velouria - DC + Null Follow-Up. Good supportive weapon to support partner.

Green:

Duo Alm - Bonus Doubler and Lull Atk/Spd(Rouse Spd/Res is nice too)

Easter Fir - Harsh Command+, Atk/Spd Solo 3, Air Orders(I guess).

Young Merric - Swift Sparrow 3. Otherwise meh, but super strong green mage.

Bridal Nailah - Swift Sparrow 3.

Summer Selena - Atk/Spd Push 4, Spd/Res Snag. Wrong Selena..

Summer Sylvain - Eh. Rouse Atk/Def 3 I GUESS? Meme weapon. (4*)

Harmonic Veronica - Atk/Def Solo 4, Lull Atk/Def 3, best axe horse by a country mile.

Dancer Lachesis - Borderline Trash. Can meme with dagger I guess. (4*)

Ninjatein - Distant Ward and Atk/Def Rein

Winter Bernie - Atk/Spd Solo 4, Lull Spd/Res 3, Rouse Atk/Spd 3, weapon can set up <100% strats. 10/10 attack animation.

Duo Peony - Atk/Spd Bond 4, Joint Drive Atk. Basically the best dancer.

Colorless:

V!Faye - Death Blow 4, Bold Fighter, Armor March, Impact Bow.

Duo Micaiah - Atk/Res Push 4, Mystic Boost, Duo Skill gives Dominance which is busted.

Harmonic Mia - Swift Sparrow 3, Spd/Def Snag

Summer Dorothea - Hone Attack 4. *Wink*

Pirate Tibarn - Heavy Blade 4, Dive Bomb

Dancer Ethlyn - Joint Drive Spd, Courtly Fan is pretty nice too.

Xane - No real fodder, but can be insanely fun to use with the right team. (4*)

Ninja Lyn - Swift Sparrow 3, Spd Def Rein, idiotically broken Duo skill. Extremity overpowered hero all around. Florina actually looks good, but she's a cheerleader...

Sephiran - Atk/Res Push 4, Odd Recovery, Staff gives allies within 2 spaces Guard. Earthwater Balm+.

NY!Plumeria - Close Ward, Atk/Def Rein

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Dark Young Link
02/02/21 2:10:02 PM
#207:


Geez that's way too bunched up to read well...

Pulled green. Didn't get the green horse cav I wanted, but Summer Selena is now mine. (+Atk/Res)

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Yankees
02/02/21 2:30:45 PM
#208:


My priority was Colorless > Green > Red > Blue. Micaiah, Mia, Tibarn, Lyn, and Plumeria are great. Xane is the dud, but even he is fun to use.


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SantaRPidgey
02/02/21 2:55:59 PM
#209:


kateee posted...
CYL full results

https://vote5.campaigns.fire-emblem-heroes.com/en-us/result/1

Byleth >_>

ugh Marth deserves 3rd every year.

Marth coming in second is proof nothing but boring people are left playing this game.

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Dark Young Link
02/02/21 3:02:04 PM
#210:


I have mixed feelings about Marth.

On the one hand, I'm happy for Marth fans that their suffering is finally over. (Though holy crap, wasn't expecting him to lose 1st)

On the other hand, Marth not being in 3rd is in defiance of the natural order.

But overall I'm happy that 1st Male and Female aren't lords, even if there are some people who are tired of Three Houses.


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mcflubbin
02/02/21 5:20:53 PM
#211:


So glad Marianne knocked Byleth out of the top 2.

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barreldragon88
02/02/21 9:06:04 PM
#212:


Got +Spd/-Atk Dorothea. Meh

I should have stayed away. Going back in only got me another Julia and didn't get the usual luck that I get on the LH/MH banners, which is getting a focus without having to spend a lot of orbs. She came home at 10%

As for CYL, Chrom and FByleth are pretty much locks for next year. Who the other winners will be is up in the air

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Dark Young Link
02/02/21 10:00:35 PM
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Dark Young Link
02/02/21 10:07:04 PM
#214:


Also Henriette is armored, not infantry as I first suspected.

Alfonse is the 4* unit. Bold Fighter is finally somewhat simpler to get.

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Yankees
02/02/21 10:40:58 PM
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Those Savior skills seem pretty nuts. I'm not looking forward to that showing up on B!Edelgard and B!Hector. I bet Gatekeeper will have a similar effect as part of his kit

I like Lif, but it's probably a skip

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barreldragon88
02/03/21 8:39:00 PM
#216:


Pleasantly surprised update is out. I thought the FEH channel said it'd be out tomorrow, when it normally is.

Rein and Nino are winners of refines. Joshua's is disappointing as expected, and Nina's requires setup to make her less sucky.

LIke's updated kit means I can give him a chance in AA again

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Yankees
02/04/21 12:12:20 PM
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The interim results are not bad. Hopefully, B!Dimitri stays out. I'm rooting for a Micaiah or Robin push since I am missing them.

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barreldragon88
02/04/21 1:11:32 PM
#218:


WTF, DuoFonse is not on there, while LAzura, Altina, Lif and Byleth are?! Players are dumb as a brick. I'm putting my remaining votes on S!Byleth

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Yankees
02/04/21 1:27:02 PM
#219:


Alfonse and Tibarn are the two most surprising absences to me. I expected NY!Peony to place in the top 8, but there is still hope for that

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Dark Young Link
02/04/21 5:23:41 PM
#220:


DuoFonse not being up there is a travesty.

Brave Edelgard being way above Legendary even more so.

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barreldragon88
02/04/21 8:28:50 PM
#221:


tbf, BEdel is more flexible as a unit than LEdel

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Cybat
02/05/21 9:57:55 AM
#222:


barreldragon88 posted...
tbf, BEdel is more flexible as a unit than LEdel

And also much more available, given that everyone had three opportunities to spark for her a few months ago

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Yankees
02/05/21 10:27:25 AM
#223:


Or they could have free picked her. It would be disappointing to see any of the CYL units make it.

My free tickets landed me Gustav (-Def +Spd), and Innes as my first 4* special rate unit.


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Dark Young Link
02/05/21 10:48:43 AM
#224:


Me: I want to give Deadeye to Bernadetta, and Rouse Atk/Spd for Nino would be nice too.

Game: Here's that Shimir and Shinon you wanted.

Me: Cool. It took most of my orbs, but tha-

Game: They're both +Atk btw.

Me: ....

Shinon's food regardless, but Shimir. Hrm....

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Yankees
02/05/21 1:35:41 PM
#225:


Shamir feels like the perfect counter to B!Hector with Firesweep and NFU. I prefer the Oath skills to the Rouse ones. Less of a buff, but it is easier to activate.

On that note, I went back into hero fest with 40 orbs and got two Shamirs and a Shinon dupe. It'd be nice to merge up Shinon eventually, but Deadeye and Time's Pulse are perfect for Shamir.

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barreldragon88
02/05/21 1:39:00 PM
#226:


I'm guessing many of BEdel's voters want merges

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Dark Young Link
02/05/21 1:54:34 PM
#227:


Yankees posted...
Shamir feels like the perfect counter to B!Hector with Firesweep and NFU. I prefer the Oath skills to the Rouse ones. Less of a buff, but it is easier to activate.

Yeah, she certainly would be useful in that regard. Atk/Spd Oath... I probably won't be getting that anytime soon, though L!Celica would make a fantastic fodder for Nino(SS3 + Oath), Fallen Ike I'd rather sac for his Repel skill. The issue for me is that the only other Atk/Spd Rouse unit is.... Winter Bernie. Though it's not like I'm in a hurry for that C skill, it's most just for a "No Legendary Azura, sololist" build.

Rouse Spd/Def would work for a sololist build, but then she only gets an attack buff on even turns(Seals don't have odd skills yet).

Anyway, I need to decide if Bernie wants Atk/Def Solo 4 or Atk/Spd Lull alongside Deadeye(A shame she can't get Times Pulse). Leaning towards the solo since it would mean she never loses the +7 if she dropped below 25%, plus increased durability against DC users.

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barreldragon88
02/05/21 2:52:35 PM
#228:


Also, assuming L!Dimitri and L!Chrom make it to top 8, I don't see how they would make top 4 because they don't stand a chance against the females.

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Yankees
02/05/21 2:53:50 PM
#229:


She's likely to fall out of push range after hitting the first enemy that can counter so I prefer to reliability of the solo skill. Lull Spd/Def seems pretty optimal for her anyway.

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Yankees
02/05/21 2:55:00 PM
#230:


barreldragon88 posted...
Also, assuming L!Dimitri and L!Chrom make it to top 8, I don't see how they would make top 4 because they don't stand a chance against the females.
Do we know how they will do the seeding? 1 vs 8, and so on?

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Dark Young Link
02/05/21 4:23:04 PM
#231:


Seeding aside, Dimitri and Edelgard are pretty close to each other. They're 1 to 1 each in VGs.

...Yeah, there's going to be a lot of salt over that tiebreaker, especially in the worse case scenario of Brave Edelgard beating Legendary Dimitri.

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Team Rocket Elite
02/05/21 4:49:09 PM
#232:


Yankees posted...

Do we know how they will do the seeding? 1 vs 8, and so on?


Last time it was:

1 vs 5
2 vs 6
3 vs 7
4 vs 8

No clue what they will do this time.
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kateee
02/06/21 9:52:39 PM
#233:


i think the summoning change where pitybreakers don't reset your rate actually got me to spend more because i would at least just stop back then but now felt like i had to keep going since it was at like 7.8%

9 orbs left...

for one Shamir
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Dark Young Link
02/06/21 9:59:31 PM
#234:


Yeah, getting pitybroke by shit like say... Laevatein... really kills the mood to summon some more.

7.8% is rough, but at least you got a Shamir(I.. hope you did anyway).

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kateee
02/06/21 10:33:13 PM
#235:


oh yeah i wasn't stopping until my focus rate reset. sunk cost and all that fallacy

so i got:
Shamir
Brave Micaiah
4* Special Jaffar

i got Mustafa 10 times

and i started at like 160 orbs AND even bought the forma bundle and other bundle so that's like $40 for 80 orbs or some shit? and i realized my freebies are finally running out. i have like 15 or so lunatic paralogues left. i was planning to save for seasonal Bridal banner because i really wanted to +10 Tanith but yeah i guess that's not happening since i'll need like 1000+ orbs. AND to top this all off, i already had a +1 Shamir and another manual. the whole thing started off as a fucking whim! because i wanted to maybe get a couple more copies and my luck hadn't been that bad in a while.

lesson learned once and for all (hopefully lol): not summoning at all past the freebie unless it's like my top two priority
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Team Rocket Elite
02/06/21 10:44:13 PM
#236:


Dark Young Link posted...
Yeah, getting pitybroke by s*** like say... Laevatein... really kills the mood to summon some more.


That literally happened to me today. It was a long summoning session (although I got what I wanted in the end).
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Dark Young Link
02/06/21 10:56:08 PM
#237:


kateee posted...
lesson learned once and for all (hopefully lol): not summoning at all past the freebie unless it's like my top two priority

Yeah, I'm trying to do this myself. It can be hard, especially if you see potentiality good fodder. I try not to take out any orbs from my Feh bank...

So I used my tickets on the Valentine banner today. Last ticket gave me a V!Lif. -Atk, but oh no he "only" has effective 55 atk unbuffed...


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Dark Young Link
02/09/21 10:19:21 PM
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Dark Young Link
02/09/21 10:29:12 PM
#239:


Rokkar Siege isn't dead yet. Unfortunately, neither is Frontline Phalnax.

New Heroes on the 16th. Double Special Heroes banner on the 20th. We also have a Lull Skills and Moonbow banner. And of course various old seasonal banners.

We have a BHB of Veronica and Loki which is interesting.

Rest of the stuff is pretty standard. There's a Three Heroes quest, but knowing IS they'll just give us another 3 gen 1 units >_>


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Yankees
02/09/21 10:36:58 PM
#240:


I guess the BHB streak is broken unless they decide to finally throw Thor and Bruno out there.

Likely DSH characters are :
Red: S!Joshua, P!Brigid, D!Sigurd
Blue: S!Lute, P!Geese, D!Quan
Green: P!Veronica, D!Lachesis, H!Grima
Colourless: P!Tibarn, D!Ethlyn, H!Xane

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barreldragon88
02/10/21 1:37:02 AM
#241:


We still wonder if we'll ever get OG Vero and Bruno and when Thorr will show up again

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barreldragon88
02/10/21 8:53:40 PM
#242:


Sothis finally came home, but she's -Spd and it took way more orbs than I would have liked. Couldn't even get another focus in the final circle. I did get dupe Hobo Celica, OG Alm x2, Nah, and Minerva from this banner and Idunn from Valentine's banner. Definitely liking 4* special

Which revival banner won the poll? I recall the calendar usually shows it, but it doesn't this time since it's coming later in the month

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Yankees
02/10/21 10:43:25 PM
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barreldragon88
02/10/21 11:34:32 PM
#244:


Oh yea, I also got M!Kris. I now have two F!Kris and one M!Kris, decided I'll keep the +Spd F!Kris

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Yankees
02/10/21 11:52:01 PM
#245:


Sword infantry is more crowded than lance. It makes sense.

It's a solid banner to spark on for fodder, but I'll be passing. Slowly, but surely, rebuilding my stockpile.

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barreldragon88
02/11/21 12:58:45 PM
#246:


Forgot about Gray. He's so forgettable. Even if I could make him +10, I don't think he's worth the dew

Kris's banner winning must have been because of Japan. That was arguably the worst option. I would have taken Mareeta's banner over it. I'm worried about Dread Isle since it's been on the polls multiple times and Shinon's banner will be votable soon

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Dark Young Link
02/11/21 8:05:13 PM
#247:


I'm not sure if I'll spark the Kris banner. I also need to stockpile.

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Cybat
02/12/21 11:05:35 AM
#248:


I assume the Kris banner won just because of Spurn. With the anti-DR meta picking up it might not be quite as crazy as it was before, but it's still a really good skill.
And yeah, I assume the Lelia banner will be out of the polls next time :(

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Yankees
02/12/21 11:55:52 AM
#249:


Close Call and Repel are still fine alternatives. I decided to sacrifice a spare Larcei rather than try to pull for a slightly better version.

Most new hero banners are going to have something busted to spark for if you're inclined. Most of these reruns are going to be passes for me until Shinon gets a turn

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barreldragon88
02/12/21 12:51:18 PM
#250:


I thought the LH remix banner was going to be only LH's. I can see them not updating Lyn if they can just stick her with Hector every time

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