Poll of the Day > All the PS5 consoles are going to scalper/reselling companies that use bots

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Ferarri619
11/24/20 10:23:03 PM
#1:


Like these trash

https://twitter.com/CrepChiefNotify/status/1329771516498763776

Bots can checkout quicker than humans can. What a bunch of scum

This Twitter comment:

"I've never wished covid on anyone, but damn I wouldn't mind an internal outbreak with this group"

AGREED

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wwinterj25
11/25/20 2:02:26 AM
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That seems a bit extreme. While I dislike scalping they have bought the products so if they want to sell for profit then that's their call. Just as it's up to folk to buy from these people or not.

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likehelly
11/25/20 2:24:36 AM
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they didn't make that much. they still have to sell them, and everything i've seen suggests that people aren't buying from them.


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MrCokeacola
11/25/20 3:41:27 AM
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People providing a middle man service for those who can not find PS5s not only is a good thing but is also good for capitalism. TC should read up on what scalping actually is before posting low-tier bait.

The only people in the wrong here are those wishing ill on their fellow man and should remember the saying. "Treat those how you wish to be treated".

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Xfma100
11/25/20 3:45:27 AM
#5:


While I dislike scalping, the real issue is that gaming companies never produce enough consoles at launch.

And especially blame retailers who are only selling these consoles online instead of in stores.
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LinkPizza
11/25/20 7:23:35 AM
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Scalpers are trash and scum. I hope no one buys any from them and they are just stuck with a ton or PS5 consoles. I hope that they end up having to sell them for less than they are worth because no one will buy them...
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blu
11/25/20 7:31:28 AM
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Meh. Theyre just a middle man. Doing the same as any other reseller. Shouldnt hate them because its individuals instead of a company.

Anyways its not like more than 5-10% of PS5s are even going to scalpers. Theyre not the reason we cant get one, its just low supply.
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likehelly
11/25/20 7:42:48 AM
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Xfma100 posted...
While I dislike scalping, the real issue is that gaming companies never produce enough consoles at launch.

And especially blame retailers who are only selling these consoles online instead of in stores.
pandemic notwithstanding, the only time there's never enough consoles at launch is with nintendo consoles.

both sony and microsoft usually always have enough to meet demand, but given the state of the world right now, it's not unusual that they have production issues that impact unit numbers.

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SunWuKung420
11/25/20 8:21:03 AM
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MrCokeacola posted...
People providing a middle man service for those who can not find PS5s not only is a good thing but is also good for capitalism.
No it's not. It's non-value added service where unreasonable marks up occur.

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Dikitain
11/25/20 8:23:49 AM
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You should never buy a console at launch anyways, always wait about a year for any kinks to be worked out in the second production run. By then, the supply will be so high that you never have to worry about scalpers. Plus by then the console usually comes bundled with a game so it is a much better deal.

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party_animal07
11/25/20 8:30:29 AM
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Meh. I blame the people buying marked up consoles more than them. One can't exist without the other.

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LinkPizza
11/25/20 10:36:33 AM
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blu posted...
Meh. Theyre just a middle man. Doing the same as any other reseller. Shouldnt hate them because its individuals instead of a company.

It definitely different, though. At least, from regular stores. Idk why you would think theyre the same...

blu posted...
Anyways its not like more than 5-10% of PS5s are even going to scalpers. Theyre not the reason we cant get one, its just low supply.

Its probably more than people think. Scalpers will go to multiple stores with their families to secure multiple systems. Its shitty...

likehelly posted...
pandemic notwithstanding, the only time there's never enough consoles at launch is with nintendo consoles.

both sony and microsoft usually always have enough to meet demand, but given the state of the world right now, it's not unusual that they have production issues that impact unit numbers.

This is actually pretty wrong. Idk why people always believe this. I remember when the Wii came out, my Target had 64. But had less than 20 for whichever system Sony and Microsoft had released. And at pretty much all stores, it was the same. A couple of Sony/Microsoft system, and couple more for the Wii... People were actually able to get the Wii Console, while struggling to even find the other 2...

And the reason I mentioned Target is because I worked there (the Wii release night, as well), so I knew the actual numbers for the Wii. While I dont remember the exact numbers for the other two, they were low. And even together, had less than the Wii Console. Even at other stores in town, it was like that... And thats if they even got them. Some stores didnt get consoles, or only had 1. Except they usually had at least a couples Wiis, even if they didnt have the other 2. The only time I really heard about a console shortage was for the Switch. And even then, it was just because everyone wanted one at the same time...

party_animal07 posted...
Meh. I blame the people buying marked up consoles more than them. One can't exist without the other.

True. If people stop buying from Scalpers, then they stop being a problem...
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adjl
11/25/20 11:15:29 AM
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Really, there's not much reason to own either console at all yet, let alone to pay several times the asking price.

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grimhilde00
11/25/20 11:28:54 AM
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Bots/scalpers have been a problem with recent Nvidia and AMD launches too.

Only reason I was able to buy a 3080 and 3090 was probably because the seller's website was absolute trash so even bots had a problem with it lmao.

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Judgmenl
11/25/20 11:30:26 AM
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I mean this is what you get for gaming on the lowest common denominator platform?
Just get a PC and give this shit up.

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grimhilde00
11/25/20 11:31:41 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
I mean this is what you get for gaming on the lowest common denominator platform?
Just get a PC and give this shit up.


grimhilde00 posted...
Bots/scalpers have been a problem with recent Nvidia and AMD launches too.

That said, you don't _need_ the latest CPUs/GPUs to game on a PC (I just really wanted to be able to ray trace ultra Cyberpunk on launch :D which I can :D )

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streamofthesky
11/25/20 11:37:46 AM
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For fuck sakes!

It's a freaking CONSOLE! Not a limited edition or collector's item!
There's a REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE solution to this problem!

Stop being a slave to Sony/MS and wait to buy the new gen consoles! That's it. That's all you fucking need to do! You'll miss out on exactly....uh...one game last I heard? that's actually exclusive to PS5, while all the others are also on PS4, often $10 less, and usually include a free upgrade to PS5.
You don't even need to miss out on new games for the next year.
Plus if you wait, if there's any major bugs, they'll be worked out by the time you buy, and you might even score a discount.

Stop being an idiot!

> directed at anyone that feels the need to immediately buy a new console at launch
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TaKun782
11/25/20 12:00:19 PM
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I wouldn't wish Covid on anyone, including these guys. It wouldnt make me no better person then they are if I did. However, I can still call them a peice of shit because scalping is scummy, and I'm allowed to express that if I want to. In other words...please don't buy from these idiot's. Wait it out. There will always be more. There will always be a restock in due time. People are acting like it's the end of the god damn world. Actually...yeah. I won't even go there.
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funbot
11/25/20 12:57:04 PM
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They're garbage people doing something totally scummy, but I don't wish pain or sickness on anyone.

Things have a way of coming back to people who are shitty on their own.

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funbot
11/25/20 12:59:00 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
For fuck sakes!

It's a freaking CONSOLE! Not a limited edition or collector's item!
There's a REALLY FUCKING SIMPLE solution to this problem!

Stop being a slave to Sony/MS and wait to buy the new gen consoles! That's it. That's all you fucking need to do! You'll miss out on exactly....uh...one game last I heard? that's actually exclusive to PS5, while all the others are also on PS4, often $10 less, and usually include a free upgrade to PS5.
You don't even need to miss out on new games for the next year.
Plus if you wait, if there's any major bugs, they'll be worked out by the time you buy, and you might even score a discount.

Stop being an idiot!

> directed at anyone that feels the need to immediately buy a new console at launch
And what If I just want to buy one because I can afford it and I want to? I can't because people are stockpiling them to make a buck. I'm not an idiot, I just kind of thought I'd be able to buy a new thing simply because I wanted to.

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streamofthesky
11/25/20 1:21:59 PM
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funbot posted...
And what If I just want to buy one because I can afford it and I want to? I can't because people are stockpiling them to make a buck. I'm not an idiot, I just kind of thought I'd be able to buy a new thing simply because I wanted to.
You're paying the maximum amount of money for the worst version of the console.
It's your money, you can do what you want with it, sure.
But there's no good reason to buy one at launch. What exactly would you be missing out on if you waited?
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funbot
11/25/20 1:44:10 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
You're paying the maximum amount of money for the worst version of the console.
It's your money, you can do what you want with it, sure.
But there's no good reason to buy one at launch. What exactly would you be missing out on if you waited?
Your "no good reason" is entirely subjective and way off point. I want one because I do, "inferior" version or not.

I had assumed I'd get the next hardware iteration anyway, whether that was a slim or just a slightly updated model, but it doesn't mean I can't just buy the new one too if that's my choice. By your logic I should never buy anything because there's always going to be something better released eventually.

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wwinterj25
11/25/20 2:06:27 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Scalpers are trash and scum.

I wouldn't go that far and that seems a bit extreme to me. Buying things and selling them for profit is what's best for business. Scalpers also help create demand. I do dislike they use bots and whatnot while little Jimmy has to go without. My sister is having "fun" getting hold of one for my Nephew for Christmas. I doubt she'll succeed but that's the luck of the draw.

adjl posted...
Really, there's not much reason to own either console at all yet, let alone to pay several times the asking price.

Agreed.

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LinkPizza
11/25/20 2:13:29 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I wouldn't go that far and that seems a bit extreme to me. Buying things and selling them for profit is what's best for business. Scalpers also help create demand. I do dislike they use bots and whatnot while little Jimmy has to go without. My sister is having "fun" getting hold of one for my Nephew for Christmas. I doubt she'll succeed but that's the luck of the draw.

To me, they are. And not because of the consoles. I can wait. What I think is shitty is buying limited edition stuff to sell off. Its a really shorty thing to do, IMO. Thats why I found great joy in a video about the times scalpers got fucked. I dont wish physical harm on them, but I do wish financial harm in the form of nobody buying from them. That way, that have to sell the system for the price they paid for it (or less, if possible), essentially wasting their time. And hopefully, it gets to stop if it happens enough...
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LinkPizza
11/25/20 2:14:41 PM
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funbot posted...
By your logic I should never buy anything because there's always going to be something better released eventually.

I think its fine to buy something new. Just not from scalpers...
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wwinterj25
11/25/20 2:18:07 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
What I think is shitty is buying limited edition stuff to sell off. Its a really shorty thing to do, IMO.

I guess collectors are scum too. I mean they buy collectors editions that are limited to sell for profit in most cases. I'd only use the word scum to describe the bottom of the barrel in life. Rapists, paedophiles, animal abusers and so on. Putting scalpers in that category is clearly wrong. That's the way I see it though.

And hopefully, it gets to stop if it happens enough...

They are doing nothing wrong legally. Morally? Perhaps but eh if folk pay more for these things then I can't blame them.


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LinkPizza
11/25/20 2:24:54 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
I guess collectors are scum too. I mean they buy collectors editions that are limited to sell for profit in most cases. I'd only use the word scum to describe the bottom of the barrel in life. Rapists, paedophiles, animal abusers and so on. Putting scalpers in that category is clearly wrong. That's the way I see it though.

Nah. Collectors are at least buying it for themselves, depending on the collector. And many are even proud of their collections. Scalpers are buying it solely to stop others from buying it to try to squeeze extra money out of them. Not only that, but collectors usually only buy one or 2. They usually dont go and buy 20 of something to make it hard for others to get it. Personally, I still think their scum. I also think there can be different levels of scum, as well...

wwinterj25 posted...
They are doing nothing wrong legally. Morally? Perhaps but eh if folk pay more for these things then I can't blame them.

I never said they were doing anything illegal. But I still want them to stop. So, I stand by what I said...
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Ferarri619
11/25/20 2:30:13 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Scalpers are buying it solely to stop others from buying it to try to squeeze extra money out of them.

+1

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wwinterj25
11/25/20 2:31:04 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Nah. Collectors are at least buying it for themselves, depending on the collector.

I see.

But I still want them to stop. So, I stand by what I said...

Good luck with that.


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LinkPizza
11/25/20 2:33:16 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Good luck with that.

Its not up to me. Its up to everybody. I already never buy from scalpers. But if others keep buying from them, they keep fucking everyone else over...
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wwinterj25
11/25/20 2:34:53 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Its not up to me. Its up to everybody. I already never buy from scalpers. But if others keep buying from them, they keep fucking everyone else over...
Hence why I said good luck in getting what you want. You're going to need it. In the meantime life goes on.

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LinkPizza
11/25/20 2:45:51 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Hence why I said good luck in getting what you want. You're going to need it. In the meantime life goes on.

Yep. It just be much less shitty if scalpers didnt scalp...
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Judgmenl
11/25/20 2:48:04 PM
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grimhilde00 posted...
That said, you don't _need_ the latest CPUs/GPUs to game on a PC (I just really wanted to be able to ray trace ultra Cyberpunk on launch :D which I can :D )
I mean I purchased an RTX 2070 like two weeks after its release and I'm not really motivated to upgrade from it any time soon.Then again I don't play modern games and never played a Raytracing game before.

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Ferarri619
11/25/20 3:06:50 PM
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This scalper has 50+ PS5s

https://youtu.be/SzPau0XWCuk

The amount of these consoles going to scalpers is probably worse than people are letting on.


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LinkPizza
11/25/20 3:26:01 PM
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Ferarri619 posted...
This scalper has 50+ PS5s

I hope he gets stuck with them and cant sell any...
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Alpha4Life
11/25/20 3:40:08 PM
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Bruh, Ive made over 5 grand flipping PS5s. Its stupid money bruh. Whats best is that Im not even a beta console gamer lmfao! Going to pick up a sick new Alienware rig bruh. PC gaming for the win! #RealAlpha
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Ferarri619
11/25/20 3:40:46 PM
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Alpha4Life posted...
Bruh, Ive made over 5 grand flipping PS5s. Its stupid money bruh. Whats best is that Im not even a beta console gamer lmfao! Going to pick up a sick new Alienware rig bruh. PC gaming for the win! #RealAlpha

Shenti, is that you?

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Smarkil
11/25/20 3:40:53 PM
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MrCokeacola posted...
People providing a middle man service for those who can not find PS5s not only is a good thing but is also good for capitalism. TC should read up on what scalping actually is before posting low-tier bait.

The only people in the wrong here are those wishing ill on their fellow man and should remember the saying. "Treat those how you wish to be treated".

Thats not how capitalism works. That's an artificial scarcity in the supply and demand market. No value is added to the product nor was an service provided to the consumer above and beyond the original product offered.

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Zeus
11/25/20 3:42:31 PM
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I'm not sure whether I'd trust claims like that seen on Twitter especially given how much fucking trolling goes on there. It looks like a prank designed to get more viewership.

Xfma100 posted...
While I dislike scalping, the real issue is that gaming companies never produce enough consoles at launch.

No, it's more a matter of scalpers creating an artificial shortage. It's how arbitrage works.

likehelly posted...
pandemic notwithstanding, the only time there's never enough consoles at launch is with nintendo consoles.

both sony and microsoft usually always have enough to meet demand, but given the state of the world right now, it's not unusual that they have production issues that impact unit numbers.

Popular consoles have generally had difficulties in meeting demand, although a large part of that is scalpers impacting the overall supply. The only time they don't is when it's not popular, largely because scalpers are less likely to impact the overall supply.

blu posted...
Meh. Theyre just a middle man. Doing the same as any other reseller. Shouldnt hate them because its individuals instead of a company.

Anyways its not like more than 5-10% of PS5s are even going to scalpers. Theyre not the reason we cant get one, its just low supply.

It's not the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. If it was, they'd be selling at MSRP instead of several times over MSRP and have a direct relationship with the consolemaker.


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funbot
11/25/20 4:09:09 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
I think its fine to buy something new. Just not from scalpers...
I'm not buying from scalpers. The problem is that I can't get what I want to buy for the normal price because of scalpers.

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wwinterj25
11/25/20 4:32:13 PM
#41:


funbot posted...
I'm not buying from scalpers. The problem is that I can't get what I want to buy for the normal price because of scalpers.
Wait. In time you can get new consoles quicker then you draw breath. Probably next year.

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mayatola
11/25/20 5:25:54 PM
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blu posted...
Meh. Theyre just a middle man. Doing the same as any other reseller. Shouldnt hate them because its individuals instead of a company.
So, don't blame the ones who are literally buying the product from other resellers like Walmart, Best Buy, etc., jacking up the price, and massively profiting due to their own greed. It's not like they spent any money on R&D, spent money on design and tooling, gave any of their ideas on anything at all. They simply bought something before someone else could and jacked up the price. Same as any other reseller? No, because they purchased them all at MSRP from those sellers. That's how they make profit after jacking up prices. How can people even defend this kind of shit?

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LinkPizza
11/25/20 5:51:02 PM
#43:


funbot posted...
I'm not buying from scalpers. The problem is that I can't get what I want to buy for the normal price because of scalpers.

Yeah. Because scalpers suck! But Im glad youre not buying from them. I hope others do the same...

mayatola posted...
How can people even defend this kind of shit?

It makes no sense when people defend them like this! Its a shitty practice that needs to stop...
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Revelation34
11/25/20 8:01:53 PM
#44:


MrCokeacola posted...
People providing a middle man service for those who can not find PS5s not only is a good thing but is also good for capitalism. TC should read up on what scalping actually is before posting low-tier bait.

The only people in the wrong here are those wishing ill on their fellow man and should remember the saying. "Treat those how you wish to be treated".


Fuck the Bible.
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Zareth
11/25/20 8:09:38 PM
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People simping for scalpers, SMH

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roflmao
11/25/20 8:25:06 PM
#46:


MrCokeacola posted...
People providing a middle man service for those who can not find PS5s not only is a good thing but is also good for capitalism. TC should read up on what scalping actually is before posting low-tier bait.

The only people in the wrong here are those wishing ill on their fellow man and should remember the saying. "Treat those how you wish to be treated".


Hows that boot taste?

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Entity13
11/25/20 8:29:26 PM
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You know, if I were a scummy person, I'd have done this a couple times by now AND this time, and use the money to just live without a reasonable care in the world.

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zebatov
11/25/20 8:30:24 PM
#48:


https://knockout.chat/thread/18571

likehelly posted...
pandemic notwithstanding, the only time there's never enough consoles at launch is with nintendo consoles.

both sony and microsoft usually always have enough to meet demand, but given the state of the world right now, it's not unusual that they have production issues that impact unit numbers.

I personally think they werent ready because they were racing each other to get their consoles out the door.

As for people arguing in-favour of scalpers/not that bad, legitimate companies dont circumvent stipulations to secure more than one console and they dont mark-up the price 200%.

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Entity13
11/25/20 8:37:05 PM
#49:


zebatov posted...
https://knockout.chat/thread/18571

Sounds to me like someone is providing . . . Leverage.

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zebatov
11/25/20 8:38:32 PM
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Heres the link within that link:

https://www.thegamer.com/console-scalpers-robbed-toronto/

I think its hilarious, personally.

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