Current Events > Trump's observers are obstructing the recount in Wisconsin

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Bio1590
11/21/20 10:13:37 PM
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https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-joe-biden-donald-trump-wisconsin-elections-dcb7da95578fc7289122c6d372575a9b

Election officials in Wisconsins largest county accused observers for President Donald Trump on Saturday of seeking to obstruct a recount of the presidential results, in some instances by objecting to every ballot tabulators pulled to count.

Trump requested the recount in Milwaukee and Dane counties, both heavily liberal, in hopes of undoing Democrat Joe Bidens victory by about 20,600 votes. With no precedent for a recount reversing such a large margin, Trumps strategy is widely seen as aimed at an eventual court challenge, part of a push in key states to undo his election loss.

A steady stream of Republican complaints in Milwaukee was putting the recount far behind schedule, county clerk George Christenson said. He said many Trump observers were breaking rules by constantly interrupting vote counters with questions and comments.

Thats unacceptable, he said. He said some of the Trump observers clearly dont know what they are doing.

Tim Posnanski, a county election commissioner, told his fellow commissioners there appeared to be two Trump representatives at some tables where tabulators were counting ballots, violating rules that call for one observer from each campaign per table. Posnanski said some Trump representatives seemed to be posing as independents.

At one recount table, a Trump observer objected to every ballot that tabulators pulled from a bag simply because they were folded, election officials told the panel.

Posnanski called it prima facie evidence of bad faith by the Trump campaign. He added later: I want to know what is going on and why there continues to be obstruction.

Joe Voiland, a lawyer speaking to commission members on behalf of the Trump campaign, denied his side was acting in bad faith.

I want to get to the point of dialing everything down and not yelling at each other, Voiland said.

At least one Trump observer was escorted out of the building by sheriffs deputies Saturday after pushing an election official who had lifted her coat from an observer chair. Another Trump observer was removed Friday for not wearing a face mask properly as required.

Trump paid $3 million, as required by state law, for the partial recount that began Friday and must conclude by Dec. 1.

His team is seeking to disqualify ballots where election clerks filled in missing address information on the certification envelope where the ballot is inserted, even though the practice has long been accepted in Wisconsin.

The campaign also alleges thousands of absentee ballots dont have proper written paperwork, and that some absentee voters improperly declared themselves indefinitely confined, a status that allows them to receive a ballot without photo ID. Those challenges were being rejected.

There have been at least 31 recounts in statewide elections in the U.S. since the most famous one in Floridas presidential election in 2000. The recounts changed the outcome of three races. All three were decided by hundreds of votes, not thousands.

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Politics
11/21/20 10:14:05 PM
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Why do we even need a literal recount

can Trump just go to fucking jail

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Irony
11/21/20 10:14:24 PM
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This is why judges blocked this in other states

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CADE FOSTER
11/21/20 10:14:31 PM
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fucking christ these assholes need to be banned from government forever
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kingdrake2
11/21/20 10:16:35 PM
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Politics posted...
can Trump just go to fucking jail


i want him to go to jail. but trump is doing crooked things to keep himself out.
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SevenTenths
11/21/20 10:19:06 PM
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Politics posted...
Why do we even need a literal recount

can Trump just go to fucking jail
Because trump has debts, so he needs his base to donate. Thinking it's going to "fighting fraud" because they don't read the fine print that says it's being split between trump and a gop pac (so it's actually going to ga). This is why the gop is playing along, they need to milk trump's base dry so they can obstruct the Democrats plans. Insure that the trump tax hike on people earning under 75k doesn't get cancelled so they can blame the hike on Biden. And gain more seats in 2022.

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DarkChozoGhost
11/21/20 10:19:43 PM
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Sue them.

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CableZL
11/21/20 10:21:28 PM
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A steady stream of Republican complaints in Milwaukee was putting the recount far behind schedule, county clerk George Christenson said. He said many Trump observers were breaking rules by constantly interrupting vote counters with questions and comments.

If they're constantly breaking the rules, can they just kick them out?

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JustMyOpinion
11/21/20 10:23:32 PM
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Why are we humoring this attack on democracy without any evidence whatsoever?

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MabusIncarnate
11/21/20 10:25:18 PM
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The clown show continues

https://youtu.be/1UJtMG7Eexk

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SevenTenths
11/21/20 10:25:45 PM
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JustMyOpinion posted...
Why are we humoring this attack on democracy without any evidence whatsoever?

Bio1590 posted...
Trump paid $3 million, as required by state law


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ScazarMeltex
11/21/20 10:33:30 PM
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This is why people who don't know anything about how elections work should not be allowed to be observers.

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CADE FOSTER
11/21/20 11:30:11 PM
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smh
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KnightofShikari
11/21/20 11:37:49 PM
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CableZL posted...
If they're constantly breaking the rules, can they just kick them out?
if too many get kicked out you can bet trump will shit on twitter about how "very good independent beautiful people were obstructed by DEMONcrats from faithfully defending God's democracy" or some other garbage

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Irony
11/21/20 11:52:59 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
if too many get kicked out you can bet trump will shit on twitter about how "very good independent beautiful people were obstructed by DEMONcrats from faithfully defending God's democracy" or some other garbage
Thankfully it wouldn't matter

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MachineJaipur
11/22/20 12:31:48 AM
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Still employing the best people I see
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Bio1590
11/22/20 1:13:10 AM
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Heineken14
11/22/20 1:31:13 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...

if too many get kicked out you can bet trump will shit on twitter about how "very good independent beautiful people were obstructed by DEMONcrats from faithfully defending God's democracy" or some other garbage


Yeah, that's exactly what these shit fucks are wanting.
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Medussa
11/22/20 1:33:18 AM
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tell the WI GOP to replace them, and if the replacements do this again, the watchers and those who appointed them are all getting arrested.

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DepreceV2
11/22/20 10:10:48 AM
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Well of course they are. Who didnt see this coming?

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Taharqa_
11/22/20 10:15:19 AM
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Notice the places where this administration is bringing up their objections are places where there is a heavy black electorate.

Black people in Atlanta, Detroit, Milwaukee, and Philly tipped the scales in their states and brought it home for Biden in the EC. The next line of attack on voter suppression from Republicans will focus on voters in those states.

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fan357
11/22/20 10:52:53 AM
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Just tear gas them.

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Solar_Crimson
11/22/20 11:21:09 AM
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Now, what will they do when their meddling changes nothing in the end?

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MachineJaipur
11/22/20 11:24:19 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Now, what will they do when their meddling changes nothing in the end?
Well if they keep meddling, hopefully fines for the WI GOP and arrests and (felony) charges for the interference
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shockthemonkey
11/22/20 11:26:39 AM
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Meanwhile, the president-elect isnt getting the information he needs to be prepared to run a country in the middle of the worst pandemic in a century that has already killed over a quarter million Americans.

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Ruvan22
11/22/20 12:47:22 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Meanwhile, the president-elect isnt getting the information he needs to be prepared to run a country in the middle of the worst pandemic in a century that has already killed over a quarter million Americans.

But the Deep State!!!
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