Poll of the Day > Will you be getting the COVID-19 VACCINE within the next 5 MONTHS???

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let's see what the majority will vote as doctors said getting the american public to trust in getting the vaccine is the tough part in stopping the deadly virus.

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I'm not anti-vaxx, but now I'm starting to think they had a point.

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Depends on if it works, has zero/minimal side effects, is readily-available, etc...

Given the nature of the virus and its many mutations, a vaccine may be futile.

Personally, no. Several reasons. I don't get sick, I'm not high risk, I'm not a very public person, I'm never first in line for anything out of concern for glitches, and save it for those who would make better use of it.

I'm sure my program will require to me get it if it's completed before September 2021. I mostly do international work and I'm sure they'd prefer their Americans immunized.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I'm not anti-vaxx, but now I'm starting to think they had a point.

That they cause Autism?

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Metalsonic66 posted...

That they cause Autism?

No, I think the anti-vaxxers had other points. Those points just got hidden behind the crazy of that one.

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There are risks to vaccines just none that outweigh the benefits

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I'm not at risk nor am I a front line worker, so no. There are far more people that would need it before I would even if it were ready within the next 5 months which I dont believe it will be.

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I'll be heavily considering it but I'll need to know all the info first. I am at risk but I also react horribly to almost all medications that are safe for most people (and foods and drinks) so even if it's the best vaccine ever, it's still a large risk. On the other hand, I can't just stay home and avoid exposure either because I have to go to the doctor and hospital pretty often. It'll be a tough choice to make either way.

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I'm pro-vaxx, but I think I'll wait a few extra months

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fuck yes, once it's available (as it will be going to frontline workers first, etc)

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I'll let them work out all the kinks before I get it

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My understanding is that they rushed the red tape / paperwork, started producing the vaccine simultaneous to testing it rather than waiting, and for some certain phases were conducted simultaneously rather than one after the other. Not that safety steps were skipped.

Also, they will be rolling it out to the most vulnerable first, so there will be plenty of people worldwide getting it before it's available to the general public.

Plus (at least with Pfizer/Moderna) it's not like it's a live virus.

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Given how vaccines are generally created, it's stupid to get one so early.

So no.

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we dont know the long term effects the vaccine may bring. i bet like 20% of the population will get it. pretty much people who are considered high risk

this is all just a reminder this covid-19 **** aint going anywhere for awhile. we'll be battling this for at least another year or two

In five months? Not a chance even if I even thought about getting one. Five months is way to short for it to be tested to level I'm satisfied with.

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As soon as I'm able to get it.

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no, I'm not rich enough

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Yes. I understand the concerns people have and I share those, but I'm more at risk than most people my age and frankly I'm more terrified of dying alone in a hospital than any side effects

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I will get it when my doctor says. No sooner and as long as available not later.

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wwinterj25 posted...

In five months? Not a chance even if I even thought about getting one. Five months is way to short for it to be tested to level I'm satisfied with.

why do you think you're qualified to judge whether or not the vaccine has been evaluated?

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JOExHIGASHI posted...

no, I'm not rich enough

Should be voluntary and free.

I will most likely get it once it is offered to me, but without me being in any risk groups as far as I know, I doubt I will get the invite within 5 months.

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As soon as I can. My mom needs to be protected.

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I'm in the UK, and if Boris's bunch of bunglers manage the vaccination program as efficiently as they have the Covid test-and-trace system... I'll probably get it posthumously.

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i very much doubt any of us will be getting the vaccine in the next 5 months, regardless of how we feel about it. i'd wager a guess that the vast majority of us (sans sunny) are under 60 years old. the very earliest people 50 and older, 40 and older, 30, etc will probably be quarter 3 of next year, and that's being optimistic, ok?

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I'll probably be forced to get it right away because of my family but preferably I want to wait a few months and see how it all plays out

People are still getting sick even with the vaccine plus I heard it hurts like a bitch too because you have to get injected twice for some reason

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Ill probably not get it in 5 months, mostly cause i won't be on the list of people that can get it in 5 months

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captainjeff87 posted...

I'll probably be forced to get it right away because of my family but preferably I want to wait a few months and see how it all plays out

People are still getting sick even with the vaccine plus I heard it hurts like a bitch too because you have to get injected twice for some reason

From how I understand it, you need to get first dose, and a second dose 4 weeks later. The reasoning is since some people get covid a second time, a quick booster will allow your body to get the idea to keep the anti bodies, instead of getting rid of them. Not sure if thats it, but thats how I understand it.

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Didn't it take like over two decades to develop a safe HPV vaccine?

Yeah I'm not taking any vaccine that has only been in development for less than a year.
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Aculo posted...

i very much doubt any of us will be getting the vaccine in the next 5 months, regardless of how we feel about it. i'd wager a guess that the vast majority of us (sans sunny) are under 60 years old. the very earliest people 50 and older, 40 and older, 30, etc will probably be quarter 3 of next year, and that's being optimistic, ok?

Actually it looks like ages 18-30 are going to get it before 31-64 (maybe because this group has been exhibiting riskier behavior and have more spreaders).
(not including people with conditions that make them more vulnerable, those are earlier)

For the US, it is hopeful that it can be widely distributed by April/May.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-10/COVID-Routh.pdf
^ young adults has been defined in more details in other publications as 18-30, feel free to google if you like this phased plan is pretty standard

edit: here, it's based on this https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25917/framework-for-equitable-allocation-of-covid-19-vaccine

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By April, probably not. For one thing, I'm not high-risk enough to qualify for it until a supply is a little more established (asthmatic, but pretty mildly so, and otherwise young and in good shape, plus able to work from home so my exposure risk is relatively low). For another, I'm inclined to wait a bit longer to ensure the vaccine is safe. June-July, maybe, but not April and certainly not sooner than that.

Ogurisama posted...

From how I understand it, you need to get first dose, and a second dose 4 weeks later. The reasoning is since some people get covid a second time, a quick booster will allow your body to get the idea to keep the anti bodies, instead of getting rid of them. Not sure if thats it, but thats how I understand it.

That's the gist of it. You get stronger, longer-lasting immunity with a booster shot than from a single dose. That's why Hep B's vaccine is delivered in three shots, HPV in two, and there are a bunch of newborn/toddler vaccines that get repeated several times over those first few years.

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Clench281 posted...

why do you think you're qualified to judge whether or not the vaccine has been evaluated?

I judge for myself as it would be something I put in my body. I don't need to be "qualified" in shit to trust or not trust something. I'll let others be the guinea pigs until I'm satisfied and even then I might not even bother. My body, my choice. You can do whatever you want I don't care.

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wwinterj25 posted...

I judge for myself as it would be something I put in my body. I don't need to be "qualified" in shit to trust or not trust something. I'll let others be the guinea pigs until I'm satisfied and even then I might not even bother. My body, my choice. You can do whatever you want I don't care.

...do you apply the same level of scrutiny for when a doctor diagnoses you with any condition and prescribes a course of treatment?

Or is it just paranoia about vaccines for some illogical reason?

(and if the answer to the first question is yes, you're exactly the patient that doctors hate to deal with)

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Clench281 posted...

...do you apply the same level of scrutiny for when a doctor diagnoses you with any condition and prescribes a course of treatment?

As the treatment has been tested for years not really. If it's new treatment I'd certainly be apprehensive.

Or is it just paranoia about vaccines for some illogical reason?

Paranoia over new medicine is probably more accurate. I don't see how this is illogical.


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Clench281 posted...

...do you apply the same level of scrutiny for when a doctor diagnoses you with any condition and prescribes a course of treatment?

Or is it just paranoia about vaccines for some illogical reason?

(and if the answer to the first question is yes, you're exactly the patient that doctors hate to deal with)

I'd hope so. There's so many stories of doctors misdiagnosing and over prescribing that you shouldn't settle for just any mcdiagnosis they rush you out with to move on to their next patient if it doesn't adequately meet your needs.

dedbus posted...

I'd hope so. There's so many stories of doctors misdiagnosing and over prescribing that you shouldn't settle for just any mcdiagnosis they rush you out with to move on to their next patient if it doesn't adequately meet your needs.

primary care doctors not having an expert knowledge in all arenas or ER doctors being the same and being rushed and not knowing your family history

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virologists building a vaccine with global top minds dedicated to the cause

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Clench281 posted...

...do you apply the same level of scrutiny for when a doctor diagnoses you with any condition and prescribes a course of treatment?

Or is it just paranoia about vaccines for some illogical reason?

(and if the answer to the first question is yes, you're exactly the patient that doctors hate to deal with)

Everyone should be skeptical of doctors treatments or prescriptions because doctors are far from infallible. Why do you think malpractice is a thing? Or getting a second opinion is a thing? In fact, I would argue I've had more negative experiences with doctors than positive from being overly prescribed things like opioids and antibiotics to just flat out wrong diagnoses.

Some years ago I went to the doc having extreme pain in my lower sides (what I approximated to be my kidneys) and told them what I was experiencing. I asked my doc if it might be kidney stones or something based upon experiences my friends/family had had. He said, 'Nah it can't be that'. Long story short after a couple of visits I ended up getting a surgical consult for my gallbladder because they showed gallstones in a CT. I explained to the surgeon the symptoms I had which brought me to the doctor in the first place and he's like, 'What? Your gallbladder has nothing to do with the pain you've been experiencing. They're in completely different parts of the body and have completely different symptoms. You have gallstones but if you're not experiencing any of those symptoms, I wouldn't recommend its removal. It doesn't have anything to do with what you're experiencing. Go see a urologist'.

So I finally go see a urologist and he correctly identifies it as a kidney infection and we get it figured out.

You shouldn't outright ignore a doctors opinion, but let's not pretend they can't be wildly wrong and that you should just do everything they say without thinking critically about it or doing your own due diligence.

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As long as it's safe and effective, yes.

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I doubt I'll have access to the vaccine within the next 5 months. However, if works, I'll likely cave (since I dislike needles) and get it.


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grimhilde00 posted...

virologists building a vaccine with global top minds dedicated to the cause

I don't doubt that the scientists and doctors are competent enough to produce a safe, effective vaccine. I do doubt that the executives paying them are willing to be patient and let them take the full time they need in order to do so when so much glory and profit is riding on being the first to get out a vaccine. I also recognize that everyone involved is feeling a ton of pressure (from the pandemic itself, not even considering executive meddling) and wants to get something out quickly, and that working under that kind of pressure can result in overlooking or forgetting something.

There will definitely be a good vaccine eventually, and I have nothing against vaccines as a whole, but I'll still be skeptical of anything that comes out before next year because I know that's a very accelerated timeline for vaccine development.

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adjl posted...

I don't doubt that the scientists and doctors are competent enough to produce a safe, effective vaccine. I do doubt that the executives paying them are willing to be patient and let them take the full time they need in order to do so when so much glory and profit is riding on being the first to get out a vaccine. I also recognize that everyone involved is feeling a ton of pressure (from the pandemic itself, not even considering executive meddling) and wants to get something out quickly, and that working under that kind of pressure can result in overlooking or forgetting something.

There will definitely be a good vaccine eventually, and I have nothing against vaccines as a whole, but I'll still be skeptical of anything that comes out before next year because I know that's a very accelerated timeline for vaccine development.

Fair. There is concern that the vaccine will protect the vaccinated from having severe symptoms but not reduce spreading it asymptomatically to unvaccinated people (which is why we'll have to keep masks going for awhile).

I was replying to someone talking about doctors misdiagnosing or being mcdoctors. I don't think that's really relevant to experts focusing on one thing.

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