Board 8 > Hearthstone Topic:Madness at the Darkmoon Faire

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VeryInsane
11/12/20 8:47:05 PM
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Do I deserve this evil? Who knows, it's like I'm cursed to make this topic.

But this set at least looks pretty cool. Old Gods are all back and the corrupt mechanic is fun, if potentially silly.

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skullbone
11/12/20 8:51:02 PM
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I thought about making the topic, especially since Ulti has me on ignore but I decided against it. I always end up talking myself into buying the mega bundle but I don't think I really play enough to justify it.

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Camden
11/12/20 9:37:06 PM
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The new rewards system seems pretty terrible for me, I didn't want to make the topic if I wasn't sure that I was going to keep playing the game much longer.

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GANON1025
11/12/20 10:12:39 PM
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I'm excited for the expansion!

Not sure about the new rewards system, I think I have to play more. And are achievement points worth anything?

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Camden
11/12/20 10:20:47 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
I'm excited for the expansion!

Not sure about the new rewards system, I think I have to play more. And are achievement points worth anything?

Yeah, even if I play twice as often I'm going to go from about 7,000-7,500 gold to something like 4,500-5,000. Not sure on the number because I don't think the playtime modifier for casual is known yet.

Achievement points don't do anything that I'm aware of.

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azuarc
11/12/20 11:32:03 PM
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I haven't seen any Hearthstone chat for like a week. Thought that was odd since an expansion was supposed to be coming. I admittedly haven't looked at it at all. This will be a new experience for me. Just gonna walk in on day 1 of the expansion, open a bunch of shit, and be surprised. (What? I've still been doing my daily quests.)

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Emeraldegg
11/13/20 12:35:40 PM
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I think about getting back into HS every now and then, but last time I dove back in the power scale was over 9000 and it was so RNG'y. Have they scaled back on the "discover a discover card" type mechanics in more recent sets? Or is it just more of the same?
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azuarc
11/13/20 3:33:54 PM
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They've definitely cut back on discover a discover in the sense that most discover cards can't find themselves. There's still a lot of randomness, but it's mostly adaptable randomness and we all know that isn't going anywhere.

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skullbone
11/13/20 3:38:01 PM
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The new Yogg card is "If you've cast 10 spells this game then spin the wheel of Yogg-Saron"

https://i.redd.it/6nohb69ixnu51.png

The 5% option is cast pyroblasts until a player dies

This isn't really an answer to your question about RNG being reduced but I just thought I should bring it up.

Here are the effects in better quality:

https://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Yogg-Saron,_Master_of_Fate

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skullbone
11/13/20 6:48:07 PM
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Played 2 Tavern Brawls and I think I've effectively talked myself out buying the $80 bundle. Losing in this game makes me so upset and I really can't put a finger on why. I don't really get upset losing other games anymore but even playing in a silly mode like Tavern Brawl makes me want to snap my keyboard in half after a loss or two.

I'd love some science on what exactly makes Hearthstone so rage inducing for me compared to other games

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Camden
11/13/20 9:26:09 PM
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Of course Blizzard would do this since they still haven't fixed the issue where your collection flags old cards as new, but I now have achievements with an exclamation mark as if I just got them, but I can't click on them to claim them. Just a permanent reminder that I have unclaimed achievements that I don't actually have.

Edit: Pretty sure I know what caused it. The offending achievement is reaching Gold 5, even though I just hit Gold 10 today. I lost the two matches immediately after hitting Gold 10 and it gave me the message telling me I couldn't lose ranks from where I'm at, so I think the achievements assumed I fell back to rank 1 from the previous level, but still saw that I was on Gold, so it flagged me as having surpassed Gold 5.

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dowolf
11/13/20 9:52:19 PM
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I have the same bug, and I was doing some pretty dumb things at a rank floor. Seems likely.
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Camden
11/15/20 2:37:58 PM
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After playing for a couple of hours, it seems like the experience modifier for casual is about 150 an hour.

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MoogleKupo141
11/15/20 5:07:49 PM
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just casually looking at reddit and theres a big Ulti Hearthstone post as I scroll by

I dont think Hearthstone is literally the worst game ever made and even I dont play the game anymore. why do you do this to yourself?
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Camden
11/15/20 5:31:51 PM
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Damn, the entire sub is a salt mine. They're angrier than they were about the Hong Kong issue.

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MoogleKupo141
11/15/20 5:34:55 PM
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lol oh yeah I forgot about the Hong Kong thing

I guess everybody on that sub who still plays the game forgot about how they were all supposed to quit in protest too
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VeryInsane
11/15/20 8:06:53 PM
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I think the stupidest thing about these achievements IMO is that they spoil the results before you even get to do anything

Open a pack get an achievement for getting a legendary, for example... Or win a game of BGs before the turn starts

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dowolf
11/15/20 8:34:14 PM
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Honestly, everything feels a bit overblown. The total value for most users is the same or greater, even though you have less gold.

It is a bad system though.
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Camden
11/15/20 8:40:16 PM
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Two things I dislike about the achievements.

1) The only ones that seem to give actual experience are the ones tied to Darkmoon Faire, but a lot of them require you to have a specific epic or legendary to finish it, so if you want to complete all of the exp achievements you essentially need to collect the entire set. An example, 900 of the 1,100 exp you can get with Priest through these achievements is tied to either G'huun or the Nameless One.

2) I bought the old adventure sets and completed them, but I've since dusted a handful of cards. This doesn't trigger the achievements as having been completed even though at one point I had the full collection from these sets, which wouldn't be so bad if we didn't know Hearthstone already has the ability to remember which cards you've previously owned so you can't dust nerfed cards to make sure you continuously re-open them.

Also, I imagine this one will get fixed, the achievements for completing the Book of Heroes for both Mage and Hunter aren't completing even though I completed both of them.

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dowolf
11/15/20 8:46:50 PM
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Ignoring the first legendary because some folks are saying it replaces the free login one, if you value the legendary and epic at 1600 and 400, respectively, and value each of the packs at 40 gold (which is super conservative), you should be up around 1k. Granted, this assumes you're getting 400xp/hour, which some are now arguing is not the case, but I don't think there's enough evidence there yet.
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Camden
11/15/20 9:02:57 PM
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1,600? I'd take 100 gold over a random Scholomance legendary right now.

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dowolf
11/15/20 9:07:05 PM
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They're from the new set.
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ShatteredElysium
11/15/20 9:20:41 PM
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I haven't logged in but I assume exp is tied to games played? So this is going to encourage people to play more aggro / quick games right? Was already slanted that way when climbing but this should push it in that direction even when not climbing
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Camden
11/15/20 9:38:32 PM
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dowolf posted...
They're from the new set.

Yeah, that's a bad example from me since we're so deep into Scholomance, so I'll change it. I'd rather have 100 gold than a random Darkmoon Faire legendary a few days after Darkmoon Faire launches.

That first legendary replaces the one they usually give at the start of the expansion, right? Or at least that's what a bunch of people are saying, I haven't seen mention of it personally so maybe not, but assuming it does I was already getting that right from the jump. And the second one I believe is at level 25, which is very likely at a point where I'm already not interested in it, so I'd rather have 100 gold.

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dowolf
11/15/20 10:23:20 PM
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Is it? I haven't actually calculated it out, but given that I'm already Level 16, I kind of assumed I'd be Level 25 by the 2-week mark, and F2P folks generally don't craft before the 2-week mark.
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Camden
11/15/20 11:16:38 PM
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Set comes out Tuesday, so unless I hit 25 by Thursday or Friday I've probably opened/crafted all of the legendaries I'm interested in from the set. I'm either 12 or 17, I hit the second reward on the page but I don't remember which page it was, but I don't expect to get to 25 by then from either of those spots.

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azuarc
11/16/20 12:25:03 AM
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I have no idea what level I am, but I haven't claimed any of my rewards. I just watch the game flash numbers and random achievements on my screen.

I'm finishing quests, though.

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dowolf
11/16/20 11:47:29 AM
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What do Reddit awards even do, anyways? I've generally thought them silly, especially in e.g. r/news, where if you like the post you could, I dunno, support the linked newspaper/journalist instead.
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skullbone
11/16/20 8:11:56 PM
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Ulti is such a miserable person I really hope he finds a hobby he actually enjoys one day.

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VeryInsane
11/16/20 8:56:55 PM
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BG is fun but it's largely because they put a lot of updates to it and it has enough rng that the games will never really feel samey

btw I find it funny that theoretically none of the heroes I put in top five last time I made a list might even be in the top ten. Like, maybe Rafaam or Deryl.

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GANON1025
11/17/20 1:49:53 PM
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Im hoping to open the pure paladin and warlock demon cards. Plus all the old gods

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azuarc
11/17/20 1:55:03 PM
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This might be the first expansion where I'm just looking at it and going, "yup, that's an expansion, all right. Guess I'll spend my gold to open some cards, 'cause that's what you do."

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Camden
11/17/20 2:28:19 PM
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I haven't even bothered opening cards yet. I logged in to confirm the rewards track legendary did indeed replace the free legendary and that was it.

Edit: Also...

We also didnt provide any details for how events will link into and support the rewards system. We will be providing bonus XP for various activities at each seasonal event every expansion cycle, and any additional bonus events as needed, again with the aim of ensuring that our players obtain more rewards. Our failure to communicate these factors has led to incomplete projections, for which we apologize.

I'd bet quite a bit of money that the bonus xp they'll be giving out for seasonal events will be a replacement to the rewards they normally gave out instead of on top of them.

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VeryInsane
11/17/20 3:38:30 PM
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hey ulti gift us all the mega thing

just kidding it's too late and I barely play anymore anyway

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