Board 8 > Ol Punny plays Ace Attorney: Investigations *SPOILERS*

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Punnyz
10/30/20 4:24:09 PM
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b8's vote chose this one!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79050608

So I love PW, I love the Trilogy. The ending segment in T&T is a top 20 moment easily

I've been sitting on AAI and AJ for several years, but every time I replay the series to get caught up, I just go "thats good enough" and not even go for I and AJ lol

can you blame me though?

but I'm just jumping right in this time.

I watched the anime a year ago, thats...good enough?

So....I know people get like, ANGRY at the mention of this, but I'll be streaming it
https://www.twitch.tv/punnyshment
I think its okay to have at least one link out at a time, its not like I have 5 topics promoting it right now

I just sorta stream whenever, but since this is primarily for b8, I'll have to work out a schedule...which I still haven't done LOL

I'll stream later today and I will probably stream sunday

I think I'll start my stream around 6pm Central

for those of you not in the streaming scene, I'll write a passage here of what I've played, as per usual for playthrough topics, that won't stop at least

I'll just reveal right now, I don't like Edgeworth that much (Godot for life)
but I DO love me some Gumshoe

I hope he brings it to the table.

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Leonhart4
10/30/20 4:37:18 PM
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Well, you'll get plenty of Gumshoe, if nothing else.

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colliding
10/30/20 4:38:43 PM
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don't forget to N'GOOOOOOOHHHH to the polls

i'm sorry

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Punnyz
10/30/20 6:21:06 PM
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Leonhart4 posted...
Well, you'll get plenty of Gumshoe, if nothing else.
this somehow bodes well and not

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Anagram
10/30/20 6:42:02 PM
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Punnyz
10/30/20 7:16:07 PM
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Punnyz
10/30/20 7:27:39 PM
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Punnyz
10/30/20 11:02:35 PM
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I had alot of technical difficulties. I spent the past day or so testing the program I have, while games play SUPER slow, they don't crash. And I figured AA is a VN dialog heavy game with 2D graphics, it should be fine

IT WAS THE ONLY GAME TO CRASH THE PROGRAM

FIGURES, HUH?

Also it was interfering with my streaming software. AND NOT ONLY , MY PHONE WAS RANDOMLY RESETTING

THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY SET UP

So yea, per usual, everything was going wrong

but I tinkered with the settings and I managed to get it going

ANYWAYS

Edgeworth came back to his office and he found someone bloodied up good

its a fresh set of pace that he didn't get accused of the murder, which would've prompted PW to come save his ass

They introduced a new LOGIC system as opposed to random psychic powers and artifacts

this....was a bit tough. So you uncover random facts from examining the area, then you use LOGIC to combine these facts to create new information

but ...its really hard for me to get the hang of this. Its making me feel like the real life Gumshoe (at least I can pronounce the word)

The problem so far is I'm not quite sure where the game wants me to go. I was looking at the facts and One of them was MOTIVE, COULD IT BE THIEVERY? and the other was the fact that there was another gun

so Naturally I was like, the dude was packin, it wasn't JUST thievery. so I pieced them together and it didn't work

its a predesignated path with two facts I had to LOGIC together, but ....I didn't know what Edgeworth wanted me to do

so it was a bit confusing

Then it went into cross examine mode, familiarity! But then my rustiness came through too

but first

THEY BROUGHT BACK MAGGEY! Yay! And man...she was cute before, but they made her pretty damn hot in this one. So anyways, the dude was trying to frame her and mentioned her motive was thievery and she tried to open the safe and rummaged through the books

at first I was like, only Prosecutors know about the safe...but then I was like, oh wait, this guy is a prosecutor, he would know., and stopped my line of thinking there. I spent like 20 minutes examining him before realizing OH WAIT, Hes talking about Maggey, SHE doesn't know about the safe.

Yea, rusty

but also, I might be overthinking it too

Thats pretty much All I did lol. I was reading most of the dialog and stuff, so it probably took me longer than it needed to.

I'm still concerned with the logic system, like I said, sometimes I know or don't know where the game wants to take me and thats on top of me not entirely knowing how to use the mechanics to go there either

its a bit of a bind, but hopefullly things get clearer

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Punnyz
10/30/20 11:16:29 PM
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I do like the Third person exploring and I do like Edgeworth stops you when you have enough stuff, letting you know to stop wandering around aimlessly

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LordoftheMorons
10/30/20 11:18:47 PM
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Underrated game! It's not as good as the OT, but I still like it a lot.

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Heroic Bigpun
11/01/20 4:41:38 PM
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Will play later today

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Punnyz
11/01/20 6:56:10 PM
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in about like 30 minutes or so

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Punnyz
11/01/20 7:31:32 PM
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Punnyz
11/01/20 9:52:26 PM
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this game is reminding me about how a bit flawed the games were

not in a super terrible way, but

as I alluded to in my previous entry, you have to play at the game's pace

I could no longer progress, I talked to everyone and I THOUGHT I examined everything

but this is what happened

I examined a basketball hoop that was outside of a prosecutor's office (only in PW)
okay cool
I HAD TO EXAMINE IT AGAIN when you were in first person mode...BUT looking at the DOOR

If I'm looking at the door and I already examined the hoop, then I'm not examining the hoop again. I"M LOOKING AT THE DOOR, my focus is at the door
that was kind of a stretch, man

and there was a part where in Cross Examine mode, I had to present evidence as usual, and I found something he said to be not right, and I found the evidence to contradict it

it didn't work

I had to press him, and THEN edgeworth was like "should I object?"

THEN I could present that evidence

Yeeesh man

well anyways, It showed off Edgeworth's mental prowess, man. They were about to take Maggey away and then IN ONE SPLIT SECOND, he flipped the entire case on it's head. There was at least 3 or 4 minutes of internal dialog, but as I said, only one second actually passed.

He deduced there was actually another person there at night, he was actually the thief, and Edgeworth was STILL able to pin it on the other prosecutor.

I was impressed

As I said many times in regards to PW as a whole, part of the thrill of the games is YOU having to catch up to Phoenix's mindset. He pushes the plot but its exhilarating having to quickly piece things together (which is why the anime fails, he just...solves it right in front of you, among other things)

BUT THE THING ABOUT THAT is, Sometimes even Nick admits hes bluffing, and just buying time so he can solve it.
MILES though, he was clearly in control the whole time. infact, I wouldn't have even THOUGHT of there being a third person in the office that night. i'm glad the game didn't MAKE me catch up to him, I would've failed.

Theres a few frustrating things so far but also pretty cool things too

anyways, the thief thing didn't get solved, and apparently theres an organization out there too

we haven't seen the last of them


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Punnyz
11/02/20 8:37:59 PM
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I think I'll play again tonight, same place

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Punnyz
11/02/20 8:52:35 PM
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Punnyz
11/03/20 12:31:52 AM
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Miles started exhibiting strange behaviors, and I know WHY

but still, he started reminding HIMSELF why he doesn't like elevators. And I just felt that was too weird

cause 1, nobody talks like that. but 2, hes clearly reminding THE PLAYER of his backstory
but this is the 5th game in the series? ( didn't know this was After Apollo, otherwise I would've done THAT instead)

I feel like nobody would start here, we all know this

but anywho, mistaken for murderer AGAIN

hes becoming worse than Maya now

after some convincing and CROSS EXAMINING, you persuade the Flight Attendant you can't be the killer, and you start investigating

again, I became very irritated

we found some snobby ugly bastard who enjoys art and we cross examined him too
He mentioned something about me being the only one there. I had discovered some evidence of footprints leaving the elevator, establishing the murderer was in the elevator with the victim

so I present it, its wrong.
I had to press some unassuming dialog to reveal MORE dialog ALSO mentioning there couldn't have been anyone else there. THAT was it

....god man >_>

then later on we established that the suitcases in the gift shop are suspicious, so we had to examine them. Miles says something like WHATS DIFFERENT BETWEEN THESE TWO

so I was playing a game from a 1st grader coloring book, I found the 2nd one had wheel stoppers. I clicked that. It wasn't right. I stared at this 1st grader coloring book game for 10 minutes, and I had to click the wheels WITHOUT the stoppers.
GOD MAN FUCK COME ON

we established the body was moved via suitcase before the captain took me off the case. When we stopped, WE RUN INTO FRANZISKA VON KARMA

"I can't believe someone from our household is a criminal"

bitch your dad, fuck you

so Dick gumshoe is how supervising me. I stopped here. i think i'll stop at every chapter

So yea, this case is ALOT easier than the other one (so far)
I feel like this one should've been the tutorial, because all of the crossexamining sections are super basic, especially Miss Rhoda in the beginning.

at least it seems easier at first

Logic was alot smoother too. I got a game over in the first case. Here, only the mistakes I mentioned earlier, but thats because of some ol bullshit

this game...can be a bit frustrating, but its Still AA, its keeping me come back for more

and afterall, the OT was like this too at times. I remember in 2-4, You had to point out what was up with a photo of Adrian Andrews in the samurai outfit, (you didn't know it was her at the time)
I saw the pants were too long, i pointed it out, Franziska gave me a OHKO penalty and I got a game over. YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO POINT AT HER FOOT. GOD

but the thing is, it seems to be happening more often here. Ughhh

GOG told me to move on, but I have to voice my feelings on the matter

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Punnyz
11/03/20 1:46:34 PM
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I'll just randomly add

Edgeworth's theme kicks ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNb4xgrVS18

@TheRock1525

you were on to something making it your ringtone

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TheRock1525
11/03/20 1:59:34 PM
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It's my favorite AA track.

I get so fucking fired up whenever I hear it, both in game and real life.

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SeabassDebeste
11/03/20 2:53:18 PM
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yessss one of the game's true great songs

(edit) game is absolutely stacked with fantastic tracks tho
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Punnyz
11/03/20 2:57:40 PM
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occasionally the....DS...I use speeds up or slows down the tracks

its a bit hard to listen to

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ZeldaTPLink
11/03/20 3:17:15 PM
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I'm procrastinating on playing the final third of the final case of AAI for the last 6 months or so.

I got the evil lawyer girl arrested and didn't feel like continuing.

This is how much raw effort and spite it takes me to push through this game.
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Punnyz
11/03/20 3:21:19 PM
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This game is pretty rough so far. I'm hoping I'm over the slump but I also know this game doesn't have the best rep either, it might not get that much better lol

as I said, there are some bullshit moments in the series here and there but I just keep running into them here. Maybe the logic parts are on me but the other ones I talked about were dumb

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SeabassDebeste
11/03/20 3:22:38 PM
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case 2 is the worst. opinion on case 3 is split (or maybe i'm the only one who likes it).
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ZeldaTPLink
11/03/20 4:32:10 PM
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It gets better after Case 2. I kind of liked 3. But the problem is that the gameplay never gets really fun.
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Leonhart4
11/03/20 5:19:01 PM
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SeabassDebeste posted...
case 2 is the worst. opinion on case 3 is split (or maybe i'm the only one who likes it).

I really like it, too, but we are the minority.

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Heroic Bigpun
11/03/20 6:29:12 PM
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Isn't the third case usually the slacker filler case? Outcome doesn't look good!

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Leonhart4
11/03/20 6:30:44 PM
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Heroic Bigpun posted...
Isn't the third case usually the slacker filler case? Outcome doesn't look good!

All the cases in AAI are connected, and the new writers tend to pack a lot into third cases, actually!

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Nanis23
11/03/20 6:32:33 PM
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Punnyz posted...
I'll just randomly add

Edgeworth's theme kicks ass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNb4xgrVS18

you were on to something making it your ringtone
This track and some others are the redeeming qualities of this game

And I am not even one of the AAI haters! I thought it was fine! but the music helps a lot

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LeonhartFour
11/03/20 10:48:51 PM
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AAI1 might have the best OST in the series. That's the one big thing I'll give it.

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Punnyz
11/04/20 6:17:02 PM
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Punnyz
11/04/20 9:14:19 PM
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Punnyz
11/04/20 9:33:10 PM
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Punnyz
11/04/20 11:03:06 PM
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I beat that chapter in about an hour, so we're gonna do another!

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Punnyz
11/05/20 12:25:55 AM
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Hit ANOTHER chapter end before the end of the actual case

debating whether I should keep going lol

I'm on a roll

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Punnyz
11/05/20 12:35:37 AM
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I did one cross examination but I really did need to stop so I did

I'll continue the stream tomorrow!

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Punnyz
11/05/20 1:48:50 AM
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Franziska shows up and surprisingly gives me some leniency by letting me investigate

but shes dead set on proving I'm the murderer

Even though the PW crew is a small group of "friends", its been established and proven that they won't take it easy on each other when they are doing their jobs

but Franny is just...weird about this. She wants to get "even" with Edgeworth and is gung ho about the whole thing. I can't put my finger on it but I feel this is some how out of character. ESPECIALLY since we later find out that the victim was an interpol agent. thats fucking huge. but Franny REALLY thinks Edgeworth would do something like that.

I felt like it was a test but nothing that implies that ever comes up.

but yea, thats what we find out, hes an agent, that makes this murder huge.We established that the body was transported with a suitcase, but we also find out that Rhoda was telling a few fibs. She went against orders and was sneaking around. We find out she was padding her numbers by buying her own suitcases but this left her open for her keycard to get stolen and becoming the prime suspect

I sorta got stuck on this section, Edgeworth is proving that there was no murder weapon, the victime was tossed off the top of the stairs. I had to establish the statue was brought in from the layover at Zheng Fa. Its on me though, my brain went dead and I reviewed my evidence like 20 times. I just simply didn't put 2 and 2 together, I was thrown into that situation so suddenly I guess I wasn't ready for it

but we establish that the statue is a fake and is the prime evidence for the smuggling ring that the Agent and Franny were investigating

this also means the murder already happened BEFORE the layover

which doesn't stack up against Ms Meele's testimony about the Agent being in his seat when they took off again.

thats where we're at

I have to admit, this went alot smoother and faster than anything so far (except that part I got stuck, but again,t hats me)
I REALLY wanted to keep going lolj. I think under normal circumstances I would've just put it in sleep mode on my DS and picked it up after I tuck myself in bed but because I was streaming, I had to stop entirely.

I hope you guys are joining me!

I will stream again tomorrow, I'm eager to snatch the murderer

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Punnyz
11/05/20 8:32:21 PM
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I'm gonna do a run in about 30min - an hour


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Punnyz
11/05/20 9:38:55 PM
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Punnyz
11/05/20 9:44:21 PM
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bwburke94
11/05/20 10:00:35 PM
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Tag

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Punnyz
11/06/20 12:03:00 AM
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I don't know how AA streams are done, so I've been narrating them. I have received positive feedback from doing that though

but I bring it up because my voice actually started giving out, I had to stop. I had already played for 2 hours but I thought I had one more in me

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Team Rocket Elite
11/06/20 12:07:56 AM
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I didn't catch the stream but do you take any precautions to protect your voice like drinking lots of water?
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Punnyz
11/06/20 12:10:04 AM
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yes, I drank water before hand and I had a glass with me which I periodically drank from

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Punnyz
11/06/20 1:14:13 PM
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I was actually already really close to ending the chapter than I had realized

we established that Ms Meele was able to speak in Borginian and handled all of the paper work from there

we discovered that the Agent was still alive before the layover in Zheng Fa and he took a picture with his phone showing that the fake statue wasn't loaded yet (or that the original was missing) and thats when she killed him.

She used some Borginian cloth to clean up the blood because she knew the cargo was going to be unloaded and couldn't be tracked so easily

We got her!

If I was Edgeworth I would've been like, let us celebrate with Dinner, Ms Teneiro

so we start the next chapter with a kidnapping, Edgeworth uses the new suitcase he acquired to carry the money

He gets kidnapped himself and then a plucky comic relief chick, Kay, joins the fray! She claims to be the new Yatagarasu but promptly gets stuck along with edgeworth. We find our way out and run into Agent Lang. Complete with his own theme song! Hes one of few people in the world that gets under Edgeworth's skin

thats where I'm at! I smell recurring characters. but man, 2 cases in? That took awhile to establish

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Punnyz
11/06/20 7:47:06 PM
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I was gonna try to stream tonight but um, got a friend coming over

if ya know what I mean

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Punnyz
11/07/20 3:21:22 PM
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I'll try to stream later tonight

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Punnyz
11/07/20 9:03:45 PM
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Punnyz
11/12/20 10:35:09 PM
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with all of the releases I hope you can forgive for not updating, but yea, I also did not update after I streamed

so lets do that now

with Agent Lang on the scene, he restricts us to one area with a garage and a shop. One of the Mascots is there and whats funny is, I ALMOST said outloud "That guy reminds me of meekins" because of the way he salutes

then its fucking Meekins lol

after snooping around we find that theres a dead body in the garage. Whats...convenient

okay, another bullshit moment

The head yakuza guy or whoever he is is like OMG THATS MAH BUTLER JEEVES

okay

Edgeworth obviously can't do an autopsy but he makes some preliminary notes and he says this guy is Jeeves

I could only investigate two things his entry and exit wounds, which the entry being on the shouider, and a necklace he was wearing

Since he pointed out the lack of blood, I THOUGHT I had to make some sort of connections with the missing suits. I have 3 pieces of evidence that point towards suits. it was none of them

IT TURNS OUT, I had to use my Preliminary notes on the necklace to prove that it was Jeeves.

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......The fucking Yakuza guy pointed this out AND it was on the notes itself. I had TWO sources saying it was him. I had NO reason to go down this line of thinking to prove who it was. I ALREADY KNEW

So fuck you, game. God damn. This is starting to be a once per case thing, huh? It used to be one per game

WHATEVER

Lang shows up to pin it on Meekins and he kicks us out again. Gumshow says theres a witness at the stadium

WE RUN INTO SKYE!

So meekins and skye, its weird how 1-5 is canon now

blah blah blah Oldbag shows up
Kay introduces Lil Thief, a 3d simulation doohickey

eventually ...THE KIDNAPPED..EE? Shows up

Thats where I'm at

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Punnyz
11/12/20 10:35:34 PM
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Oh, we found his girlfriend too

and he mentioned one of the Kidnappers is female

WELL GEE WHIZ YOU GUYS

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