Poll of the Day > Will the USA have a Civil War Soon?

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St_Kevin
10/30/20 5:39:48 AM
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Civil War Two, Electric Boogaloo


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ohhhh my!

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FatalAccident
10/30/20 5:47:02 AM
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strange you find the idea of civil war funny

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Judgmenl
10/30/20 6:01:28 AM
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We're already having one.

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Nightwish
10/30/20 6:44:38 AM
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I'm not sure there will be a war in the traditional sense, but I do think there will be violence after the election. Some people believe and hope for an actual civil war, but it would not play out like they think.

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adjl
10/30/20 9:29:23 AM
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I very much doubt it. There will almost certainly be some degree of unrest, and I won't be surprised if it escalates into larger-scale conflict, but it's not going to reach enough of a scale to qualify as a civil war. The dissatisfied parties just aren't large or cohesive enough for that.

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BADoglick
10/30/20 10:54:25 AM
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Nightwish posted...
I'm not sure there will be a war in the traditional sense, but I do think there will be violence after the election. Some people believe and hope for an actual civil war, but it would not play out like they think.

Agreed. Also if you are a 'boogaloo boi', you should probably stop eating paste for breakfast

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papercup
10/30/20 11:16:05 AM
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Probably, but I hope not

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CaptainStrong
10/30/20 11:27:15 AM
#8:


Probably not, but I hope so.
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Johnny Eagle
10/30/20 11:51:23 AM
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I sure as hell hope not

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Veedrock-
10/30/20 11:59:31 AM
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People that expect or want a civil war really don't understand the logistics involved.

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CaptainStrong
10/30/20 12:13:11 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
People that expect or want a civil war really don't understand the logistics involved.
Then explain it to me.
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BroodRyu
10/30/20 12:44:58 PM
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Are there truly enough people on each side that want to go to war with the other side?

I sincerely hope most of us are civil enough to not want such a thing even if we vehemently disagree.
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faramir77
10/30/20 12:45:37 PM
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There will be riots either way, and dozens of people will likely be murdered after the results come in, but not a civil war.

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YoukaiSlayer
10/30/20 12:53:44 PM
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I don't think a major country will ever have an effective rebellion ever again.

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adjl
10/30/20 1:45:29 PM
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BroodRyu posted...
Are there truly enough people on each side that want to go to war with the other side?

I sincerely hope most of us are civil enough to not want such a thing even if we vehemently disagree.

Exactly. There are dissidents that will be unhappy enough to resort to violence, but they comprise very tiny, disorganized minorities of the people who could be said to be on their side. The vast majority of people won't do anything more violent than tweet angrily, and even those people will be in the minority. There are simply too few people even remotely interested in going to war for a war to actually happen.

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BlackScythe0
10/30/20 1:51:02 PM
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Depends, there will be some terrorist attacks regardless of if Trump wins or loses just a lot more if he loses. As for an actual war? I think that would require some shady shit to go down the courts would actually have to try stealing the election from Biden, but I think he is going to win by enough the courts can't do anything. Then the question for if we have a civil war comes what do republicans do when they get power next. Do they continue the McConnel path which is a path to war? Or do they try to behave decently?
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teddy241
10/30/20 2:12:29 PM
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violence for sure. people on edge. not thinking clearly due to the pandemic and political division of this country
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TigerTycoon
10/30/20 2:27:41 PM
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Raddest_Chad
10/30/20 3:11:20 PM
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Nah. If it looks like a collapse is imminent, war with China will happen to unite everybody against a common enemy while bolstering the military industrial complex.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
10/30/20 6:55:39 PM
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Soon... Hasn't it already been going on?

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LinkPizza
10/30/20 7:25:35 PM
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I sure hope not. They might try to make me fight...
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Wanded
10/30/20 7:52:13 PM
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nah americans are too lazy for that

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Unbridled9
10/30/20 11:05:05 PM
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Yes. Though I think it won't involve as much major military action and will, instead, involve political manuvering and declarations of independence. If Trump wins I suspect the west coast might try to succeed but, if they actually do it, the government will immediately deploy the army and it won't even be a fight. Conversely if Trump loses we'll likely see 'Truth Squads' or the like roaming around trying to hunt down people who aren't on the far left and local militia groups forming to oppose them. No unified fighting or fronts but certainly violence along party lines.

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YoukaiSlayer
10/31/20 12:43:15 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Conversely if Trump loses we'll likely see 'Truth Squads' or the like roaming around trying to hunt down people who aren't on the far left and local militia groups forming to oppose them. No unified fighting or fronts but certainly violence along party lines.
Any sort of roaming deathsquads would be eliminated almost instantly unless you mean to say the military would back them.

The time when footsoldiers can fight meaningfully in the open passed like 30 years ago.

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Zareth
10/31/20 12:45:32 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Conversely if Trump loses we'll likely see 'Truth Squads' or the like roaming around trying to hunt down people who aren't on the far left and local militia groups forming to oppose them.
Yeah okay

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BlackScythe0
10/31/20 12:49:21 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Yes. Though I think it won't involve as much major military action and will, instead, involve political manuvering and declarations of independence. If Trump wins I suspect the west coast might try to succeed but, if they actually do it, the government will immediately deploy the army and it won't even be a fight. Conversely if Trump loses we'll likely see 'Truth Squads' or the like roaming around trying to hunt down people who aren't on the far left and local militia groups forming to oppose them. No unified fighting or fronts but certainly violence along party lines.

lol what?
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fishy071
10/31/20 12:57:21 AM
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With the way things are going, I'm afraid it will take place. Besides, bad things will always happen and never go away while good things will never happen. If they do, then it's too good to be true and will be gone right away and replaced with something much worse.

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Dark_Spiret
10/31/20 12:59:44 AM
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we'll just have to wait and see! =D
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YoukaiSlayer
10/31/20 1:10:40 AM
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fishy071 posted...
Besides, bad things will always happen and never go away while good things will never happen. If they do, then it's too good to be true and will be gone right away and replaced with something much worse.
The world would be long gone before you were ever born if that were the case. You just lack the resolve to have hope and lose it.

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Unbridled9
10/31/20 2:02:32 AM
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YoukaiSlayer posted...
Any sort of roaming deathsquads would be eliminated almost instantly unless you mean to say the military would back them.

The time when footsoldiers can fight meaningfully in the open passed like 30 years ago.

I use the term because that's the best way I can describe them. In reality it will likely be mobs that will form whenever they encounter anyone who disagrees with them politically; similar to what we're seeing now in places like Philadelphia. Since they're technically civilians 'protesting' they'll likely avoid military intervention, do their best to ruin the livelihood of anyone who disagrees with them, and have media support. What they'll call themselves and how extreme they will be, I have no clue.

There is no way a militia could stand up to the military regardless of which side it's on. We won't see militias forming lines like we did last time. Whichever party revolts will lose plain and simple. Some small-scale militias will likely persist by not causing much in the way of problems; but the moment they attempt to escalate beyond small-scale civilian disputes they'll lose.

In short, it's basically the situation we have now with the current riots except with Antifa and BLM getting aggressive because they now have presidential backing and groups like TPB getting aggressive specifically because they no longer have presidential backing.

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Revelation34
10/31/20 2:20:45 AM
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So many people voting yes as a joke.
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Smarkil
10/31/20 2:31:35 AM
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The amount of people on one side willing to do violence on the other side is an incredibly low percentage. And disregarding that - when people realize they would have to give up their relatively cushy lifestyle they'll quickly realize they ain't into it.

Pretty easy to call for rebellion when you have a big mac in one hand and an iphone in the other.

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Unbridled9
11/01/20 4:36:39 PM
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Smarkil posted...
The amount of people on one side willing to do violence on the other side is an incredibly low percentage. And disregarding that - when people realize they would have to give up their relatively cushy lifestyle they'll quickly realize they ain't into it.

Pretty easy to call for rebellion when you have a big mac in one hand and an iphone in the other.

Well, the bigger issue is that a lot of Americans imagine it being like the first Civil War. With one side declaring itself to be separate from the union and battlelines being drawn as militaries clash and everything. That's NOT going to happen. Nor is it the only sort of Civil War. More likely we'll see either a coup that spills out into the civilian populace or both Biden and Trump claiming to be the valid president with a claim on it. I.E. Trump winning the electoral but Biden winning the popular. That will likely result in a conflict in the House/Senate with the dems insisting on popular vote and installing Biden and the Republicans defending the Electoral with Trump. Whichever one wins will get their candidate installed regardless of actual vote/electoral and pockets of civilian unrest will form championing the loser. It's too hard to tell where they'll form but it will be less 'battle lines' and more 'federal government withholding funding from non-compliant states'.

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Raddest_Chad
11/01/20 4:38:22 PM
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Wanded posted...
nah americans are too lazy for that
there's an old saying that "there are no fat men in the revolution."

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Revelation34
11/01/20 5:31:22 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...


Well, the bigger issue is that a lot of Americans imagine it being like the first Civil War. With one side declaring itself to be separate from the union and battlelines being drawn as militaries clash and everything. That's NOT going to happen. Nor is it the only sort of Civil War. More likely we'll see either a coup that spills out into the civilian populace or both Biden and Trump claiming to be the valid president with a claim on it. I.E. Trump winning the electoral but Biden winning the popular. That will likely result in a conflict in the House/Senate with the dems insisting on popular vote and installing Biden and the Republicans defending the Electoral with Trump. Whichever one wins will get their candidate installed regardless of actual vote/electoral and pockets of civilian unrest will form championing the loser. It's too hard to tell where they'll form but it will be less 'battle lines' and more 'federal government withholding funding from non-compliant states'.


A clash would result in Trump winning even if he loses the election. Conservatives have more guns.
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Unbridled9
11/01/20 6:24:54 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
A clash would result in Trump winning even if he loses the election. Conservatives have more guns.

I disagree. First off, whichever side revolts loses since the military will get involved at that point. Guns just can't stand up to an F-16. Even keeping it low-key the left has both better funding and access to communications and superior organization. While they may lose any armed conflict, especially on the right's home-turf, so long as they can keep it from escalating to that point they will win.

Basically, maybe the left will lose if they try to take on some militia group, but the right will probably lose if they DON'T. It's in the right's best interest for the left to engage in open conflict while it's in the lefts best interest to not.

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BlackScythe0
11/01/20 6:30:01 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
A clash would result in Trump winning even if he loses the election. Conservatives have more guns.
I don't know why people keep repeating this nonsense.

Who cares if one guy has 500 guns, he doesn't have 500 trigger fingers.
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Unbridled9
11/01/20 6:36:20 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I don't know why people keep repeating this nonsense.

Who cares if one guy has 500 guns, he doesn't have 500 trigger fingers.

If he's from Alabama with enough cousins in his family tree, he might.

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jbomb1234
11/01/20 7:12:58 PM
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No. This happens every 4 years because both parties put up shit and then tell us to vote for one.

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TaKun782
11/01/20 7:22:09 PM
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Nah... honestly? I mean there kinda is. But not in the way like how it was over 200 years ago. The only civil war you see raging on these days is obviously the protesting and thats about a civil war-ish you are going to get. Americans can be loud and dumb at times, but taking up arms to start killing people isnt something I see happening. I mean...they could... but we live in a society after all in the year 2020.
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11/01/20 7:25:35 PM
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Revelation34
11/01/20 7:56:03 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...


I disagree. First off, whichever side revolts loses since the military will get involved at that point. Guns just can't stand up to an F-16. Even keeping it low-key the left has both better funding and access to communications and superior organization. While they may lose any armed conflict, especially on the right's home-turf, so long as they can keep it from escalating to that point they will win.

Basically, maybe the left will lose if they try to take on some militia group, but the right will probably lose if they DON'T. It's in the right's best interest for the left to engage in open conflict while it's in the lefts best interest to not.


The only way to win a civil war is through armed conflict.

BlackScythe0 posted...

I don't know why people keep repeating this nonsense.

Who cares if one guy has 500 guns, he doesn't have 500 trigger fingers.


That person would hand out guns to his friends.
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Decoy77
11/01/20 9:09:22 PM
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Wouldn't be much of a war. One side has all the guns and knows how to use them. The other side is filled with SoyBoys in too tight of pants and rainbows...yeah not gonna be much of a fight.

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BlackScythe0
11/02/20 3:17:53 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
That person would hand out guns to his friends.

5 people don't have 100 fingers.
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Revelation34
11/02/20 3:59:21 AM
#48:


BlackScythe0 posted...


5 people don't have 100 fingers.


I think gun clubs have more than 5 members.
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Fazeo13
11/02/20 4:04:50 AM
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Maybe some small skirmishes but not a full out war. The rebels will be crushed decisively.
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YoukaiSlayer
11/02/20 5:06:15 AM
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Having guns is no better than bows and arrows at this point in warfare. Whichever side the military backs autowins cause you have drones and tanks which no amount of rednecks with illegally modified AR-15s can do anything about. Not to mention the overwhelming information advantage that satellites and air control supply.

People don't seem to understand just HOW strong the military is. If you armed the ENTIRE GLOBAL POPULATION with assault rifles, the US military would still ANNIHILATE them. It wouldn't even be close. Part of why zombie moves are so dumb.

The ONLY way a civil war could happen is if a sizeable faction of the military broke off but that would instantly become a global conflict because the world has a vested interest in what would happen so the idea that US citizens would have even minor influence over the outcome is beyond naive.

It's also beyond absurd to assume the left would rebel over trump winning the electoral vote but biden winning the popular one. I feel like you guys must live in a parallel universe.

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LinkPizza
11/02/20 5:13:46 AM
#51:


YoukaiSlayer posted...
Part of why zombie moves are so dumb.

The reason they dont seem to do anything in Zombie movies is for many reasons. First, many of them act like they dont actually know what zombies are. They think their love ones or whoever are just hurt. They dont usually know about the biting. Then, it depends on if its already inside. If it gets inside the base, it can sweep in and take everyone out pretty fast. And thats just the ones on base...
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YoukaiSlayer
11/02/20 5:32:37 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
The reason they dont seem to do anything in Zombie movies is for many reasons. First, many of them act like they dont actually know what zombies are. They think their love ones or whoever are just hurt. They dont usually know about the biting. Then, it depends on if its already inside. If it gets inside the base, it can sweep in and take everyone out pretty fast. And thats just the ones on base...
Firstly, the navy exists and theres no way it's spreading to thier ships before people figure it out. Secondly, news of people biting and infection others would spread instantly even if we pretend the concept of zombies doesn't exist. And finally, how would zombies ever beat a tank? Like 1 tank could take out thousands of zombies and still be fine.

All of that is only if somehow the zombies start out in all the military bases at the same time. Realistically you'd have a pretty localized spread that takes days to go across the country and thats more than enough time for the military to figure out enough about zombies to take them all out.

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