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BUMPED2002
10/29/20 8:06:48 AM
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Regardless of party affiliation, how satisfied are you with President Trump?




How has Trump done

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CaptainStrong
10/29/20 8:24:38 AM
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Second worst president in my lifetime.
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Judgmenl
10/29/20 9:24:58 AM
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I don't know, who is a worse President.
  • The President that caused the Civil War
  • The President that dealt with the aftermath of the Civil war
  • The President who told people to inject bleach to deal with a global pandemic, got said pandemic, and claimed it was "no big deal", despite hundreds of thousands of deaths.

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Lokarin
10/29/20 11:01:22 AM
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Since I'm not American... I know Trump has said lots of dumb things, but I don't know if he actually DID anything, like, at all.

I mean, if I check right now I know he's helping with some middle east peace talks which seems legit... and I remember something something the EPA, but that's about it off-hand

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Judgmenl
10/29/20 11:07:16 AM
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Trump caused 200,000+ American deaths.

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SunWuKung420
10/29/20 11:08:14 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
Trump caused 200,000+ American deaths.

Covid did that. No response at all would have led to more deaths. I don't support the guy but blaming him for deaths is bad logic.

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darkknight109
10/29/20 11:13:55 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Covid did that. No response at all would have led to more deaths. I don't support the guy but blaming him for deaths is bad logic.
Honestly, I'm not convinced that true. If Trump had done literally nothing - no tweeting, no public statements, nothing whatsoever - I think it might actually have been better for the US overall. Most of Trump's actions regarding the virus have actively made things worse, like speaking out against lockdown orders, falsely claiming the virus was totally under control and was no worse than the flu, disparaging mask wearing, etc.

As it was, the state governments still had to do most of the heavy lifting when it came to the pandemic and without Trump they wouldn't have had a president working to undermine them at every turn.

Of course, a halfways competent response to the virus would be eminently preferable to both, but that's kind of expecting too much from Trump...

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wolfy42
10/29/20 11:14:13 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Covid did that. No response at all would have led to more deaths. I don't support the guy but blaming him for deaths is bad logic.

He is not responsible for them all, but we have had one of the worst responses to the virus in this country and he is directly to blame for some of that. In addition to the deaths we have already had, he has basically forced many of us to remain totally isolated far longer than we would have probably needed to (Although since it's back on the rise in Europe maybe that has caused some people to actually be safer over all).

He's not totally to blame for all the deaths, but he certainly added to them with his whole (basically the flu, don't wear masks, and fake news crap).

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Mead
10/29/20 11:26:10 AM
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Lokarin posted...
I don't know if he actually DID anything, like, at all.

He made sure that over 500 kids got taken away from their parents and now they cant find the parents because they didnt keep track of any information because he is in fact a dumb bitch

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BADoglick
10/29/20 11:48:27 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Covid did that. No response at all would have led to more deaths. I don't support the guy but blaming him for deaths is bad logic.

Not really. The anti intellectualism peddled by the White House has led to half of the nation believing masks are an ineffective solution and a sign of oppression.

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BeerOnTap
10/29/20 12:38:52 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Trump caused 200,000+ American deaths.

Governors are responsible for the success or failures of their respective state. That is how federalism works. Trump stood out of the way of that and didnt seize power. You should try reading the federalist papers sometime. The president is not king.
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darkknight109
10/29/20 1:28:15 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...
Governors are responsible for the success or failures of their respective state. That is how federalism works.
By this logic, the president shouldn't do anything ever and should just leave it all up to the governors, because federalism. Which, of course, begs the question of why the US has a president in the first place.

But, as it turns out, that's not how things work in reality.

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BlackScythe0
10/29/20 1:32:40 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Covid did that. No response at all would have led to more deaths. I don't support the guy but blaming him for deaths is bad logic.

Trump has people planning to kidnap their governors to fight responses to the pandemic.
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Zareth
10/29/20 2:42:07 PM
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Literally the ONLY thing I agree with him on is that China is a problem.

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10/29/20 2:47:49 PM
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BADoglick posted...
Not really. The anti intellectualism peddled by the White House has led to half of the nation believing masks are an ineffective solution and a sign of oppression.
Youre talking to Sunny. Hes literally the type to buy Trumps defense and hang on.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Trump has people planning to kidnap their governors to fight responses to the pandemic.
This.

darkknight109 posted...
By this logic, the president shouldn't do anything ever and should just leave it all up to the governors, because federalism. Which, of course, begs the question of why the US has a president in the first place.

But, as it turns out, that's not how things work in reality.
Hes part of the Trump defense squad here. He gonna double down and talk about Killary. Its embarrassing to watch.

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Zeus
10/29/20 3:16:03 PM
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Somewhat satisfied.

CaptainStrong posted...
Second worst president in my lifetime.

Sounds like you were born yesterday.

Judgmenl posted...
The President that caused the Civil War
The President that dealt with the aftermath of the Civil war

Same guy.

And, for fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmVjAMm1ryA

Judgmenl posted...
The President who told people to inject bleach to deal with a global pandemic, got said pandemic, and claimed it was "no big deal", despite hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Because apparently rhetorically wondering aloud if something like that could be done is exactly the same as telling people to do something.

Judgmenl posted...
Trump caused 200,000+ American deaths.

Except in no world except the hyper-partisan, far-left world of #NeverTrumpers could anybody believe that nonsense. First, the areas initially hit hardest were far-left enclaves where, if Trump said "wear a mask!", most citizens would decry him as fascist and do the OPPOSITE on general principle. Second, it presupposes that a president has the powers of a king rather the elected leader of a democratic-republic. If Trump mandated stay-at-home, masks, etc, almost every governor in the country would block him and many of the first would be the liberal states whining about him now... and his orders would almost certainly be reversed by the courts. Third, previous administrations had depleted (and not replaced) the supply of PPE, so Trump was faced with a problem largely created by administrations like the Obama/Biden one which makes Biden's criticisms of unpreparedness all the more ridiculous.

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darkknight109
10/29/20 5:51:25 PM
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Zeus posted...
First, the areas initially hit hardest were far-left enclaves where, if Trump said "wear a mask!", most citizens would decry him as fascist and do the OPPOSITE on general principle.
Fake news.

Also does not explain the current status, where nearly all of the COVID hot-spots are conservative bastions.

Zeus posted...
If Trump mandated stay-at-home, masks, etc, almost every governor in the country would block him and many of the first would be the liberal states whining about him now...
Fake news.

Zeus posted...
and his orders would almost certainly be reversed by the courts.
Which is why the courts have reversed the orders of governors who mandated shutdowns or masks...

Oh, no, wait, those orders have been found to be well within a governor/president's scope of powers and the courts have largely left them in place.

Zeus posted...
Third, previous administrations had depleted (and not replaced) the supply of PPE
This is laughable.

The reason why the PPE stock was not replenished was because Tea Party Republicans refused requests by the Obama administration for budget to restore the PPE stockpile and train medical responders. Republicans stripped out funding equivalent to $321 million dollars since they retook the House in 2010.

https://www.propublica.org/article/us-emergency-medical-stockpile-funding-unprepared-coronavirus

Suggesting that it was all the Democrats' fault is laughably wrong considering Republicans' persistent and ongoing efforts to kneecap pandemic preparedness over the last decade. Trump himself disbanded the Global Health Security and Biodefence unit Obama created in 2015 specifically to deal with pandemics like COVID and either reassigned or fired its entire staff.

Zeus posted...
Trump was faced with a problem largely created by administrations like the Obama/Biden one
Trump had two years of unopposed control of both houses of congress and the courts. At no point did he even attempt to restore the funding that Republicans stripped away in 2010 or return the national stockpile of PPE to sufficient levels of readiness.

This pandemic occurred at the end of his term, not the start. Any lack of preparedness is entirely on him.

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Raddest_Chad
10/29/20 5:58:18 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Trump caused 200,000+ American deaths.
Even conservatively you could blame half of the deaths on his foolishness. There's no excuse for this.

I like him putting pressure on China, but he only started doing that recently after pissing all over the other NATO members and weakening what would have been a much stronger united western front. I think if Hillary had won though, it would still be the "we're friends, ignore the camps and HK stuff and take your cheap material goods" attitude. Now the narrative is shifted. So credit for that. But literally nothing else.

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CaptainStrong
10/29/20 6:24:50 PM
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Zeus posted...
Sounds like you were born yesterday.
Why?
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Zeus
10/29/20 6:36:00 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
Fake news.

It's absolutely the case and you know it. The regions hit hardest first in the initial outbreak were places that neither listened to nor respected the president.

darkknight109 posted...


Also does not explain the current status, where nearly all of the COVID hot-spots are conservative bastions.

You mean conservative bastions like New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut? Connecticut has absurdly draconian measures yet it's very spiraling out of control.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Otherwise it's a lot easier to try to stem an initial outbreak than it is to try to stop an outbreak from impacting other areas. The spread of COVID within the US is largely the result of those major cities failing to control things on their side and it spreading outward.

darkknight109 posted...
Which is why the courts have reversed the orders of governors who mandated shutdowns or masks...

Oh, no, wait, those orders have been found to be well within a governor/president's scope of powers and the courts have largely left them in place.

...overlooking that many of the measures HAVE been overturned by courts, you're talking about measures passed by GOVERNORS vs a president. Governors have a greater ability to issue that kind of thing than a president and, if a governor was challenging a president's order concerning their state, often the president's order is overturned.

darkknight109 posted...
This is laughable.

The reason why the PPE stock was not replenished was because Tea Party Republicans refused requests by the Obama administration for budget to restore the PPE stockpile and train medical responders. Republicans stripped out funding equivalent to $321 million dollars since they retook the House in 2010.

https://www.propublica.org/article/us-emergency-medical-stockpile-funding-unprepared-coronavirus

Suggesting that it was all the Democrats' fault is laughably wrong considering Republicans' persistent and ongoing efforts to kneecap pandemic preparedness over the last decade. Trump himself disbanded the Global Health Security and Biodefence unit Obama created in 2015 specifically to deal with pandemics like COVID and either reassigned or fired its entire staff.

You're using an alt-news op-ED (why? Because you couldn't find a legitimate source!) and then it notes that the move was bi-partisan ("Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.") as well as the fact that Obama hadn't made it a real priority over other spending DESPITE massively depleting the stockpile himself.

darkknight109 posted...
Trump had two years of unopposed control of both houses of congress and the courts. At no point did he even attempt to restore the funding that Republicans stripped away in 2010 or return the national stockpile of PPE to sufficient levels of readiness.

This pandemic occurred at the end of his term, not the start. Any lack of preparedness is entirely on him.

Which is a piss-poor excuse because previous administrations were covered because PREVIOUS administrations had covered the stockpile. And prior to using PPE during his term, Obama hadn't ever made that a priority even when he had a SUPER-MAJORITY as opposed to an easily filibustered or obstructed simple majority that Trump briefly had.

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adjl
10/29/20 6:40:12 PM
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BeerOnTap posted...


Governors are responsible for the success or failures of their respective state.

That doesn't mean they're the only people that have the potential to influence that outcome. If you've got a president telling the country a given governor's response is stupid, and people listen to that instead of to their governor's directions, the president is to blame for that.

Now, blaming Trump for 200,000+ deaths is wrong. No matter who was in office or what they did, there's pretty much no way the US was getting through Covid without a lot of deaths. Between the population density, the poor average health, and the fact that a large portion of the population is comprised of individualistic morons who become outraged by the mere notion of being told to follow any sort of public health guidelines, it was obvious the moment we found out about how bad this disease was that it was going to be a problem for America. That doesn't mean, however, that Trump couldn't have done more to make things better, or that he hasn't been actively making things worse. It's impossible to quantify just how many deaths are on his hands, but it's very obviously a whole lot more than zero.

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adjl
10/29/20 6:42:14 PM
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Zeus posted...


Which is a piss-poor excuse because previous administrations were covered because PREVIOUS administrations had covered the stockpile. And prior to using PPE during his term, Obama hadn't ever made that a priority even when he had a SUPER-MAJORITY as opposed to an easily filibustered or obstructed simple majority that Trump briefly had.

At any point prior to the onset of this pandemic, has Trump tried to replenish the stockpile? Simple question, simple answer. Go.

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Zeus
10/29/20 6:59:58 PM
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adjl posted...
That doesn't mean they're the only people that have the potential to influence that outcome. If you've got a president telling the country a given governor's response is stupid, and people listen to that instead of to their governor's directions, the president is to blame for that.

ITP: Tweets carry more weight than the governor's literal enforceable orders

adjl posted...
At any point prior to the onset of this pandemic, has Trump tried to replenish the stockpile? Simple question, simple answer. Go.

He's made it about as big a priority as any other president (and therefore doesn't get any extra points), but the impetus should always be on the person who DEPLETES a stockpile to fucking refill it, not to pass the buck forward to the next president.

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BlackScythe0
10/29/20 7:12:32 PM
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Zeus posted...
ITP: Tweets carry more weight than the governor's literal enforceable orders

He's made it about as big a priority as any other president (and therefore doesn't get any extra points), but the impetus should always be on the person who DEPLETES a stockpile to fucking refill it, not to pass the buck forward to the next president.
Why are you bringing that up again now? You've gotten the links long ago about how the stockpile was depleted with emergencies in haiti and others, medical supplies were prioritized over gloves and masks which are typically readily accessible as congress didn't fund a rapid refilling of the stock pile.

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adjl
10/29/20 7:22:51 PM
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Zeus posted...
He's made it about as big a priority as any other president (and therefore doesn't get any extra points), but the impetus should always be on the person who DEPLETES a stockpile to f***ing refill it, not to pass the buck forward to the next president.

I said simple answer. Yes or no. Try again.

Zeus posted...
ITP: Tweets carry more weight than the governor's literal enforceable orders

ITP: Tweets from a major public figure can't influence people's behaviour.

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Wanded
10/29/20 10:56:02 PM
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Zeus posted...
You mean conservative bastions like New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut? Connecticut has absurdly draconian measures yet it's very spiraling out of control.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

Otherwise it's a lot easier to try to stem an initial outbreak than it is to try to stop an outbreak from impacting other areas. The spread of COVID within the US is largely the result of those major cities failing to control things on their side and it spreading outward.

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fishy071
10/30/20 1:22:49 AM
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I can't stand it. He is a cheater and criminal.

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DirtBasedSoap
10/30/20 1:24:46 AM
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I have a larger penis than the president

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darkknight109
10/30/20 1:26:45 AM
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Zeus posted...
The regions hit hardest first in the initial outbreak were places that neither listened to nor respected the president.
And?

Trump thinks cheeseburgers are great - I haven't seen a dearth of cheeseburger purchases in blue states as a result.

Democrats in blue states aren't stupid and, unlike many of their red state counterparts, actually trust in the science behind the pandemic. Regardless of what Trump said, if someone like Dr. Fauci had told them to mask up and social distance, they would have listened. We know this is true because Democratic senators were pushing Trump to declare a health emergency and were asking Alex Azar whether more coronavirus support was needed in mid-January, long before Trump showed any sign of giving a shit about what was going on.

Zeus posted...
You mean conservative bastions like New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, and Connecticut? Connecticut has absurdly draconian measures yet it's very spiraling out of control.
Worst states in terms of cases per 100k population is, in order, North Dakota, South Dakota, Mississippi, Louisiana, Iowa, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, Wisconsin, Arkansas, Nebraska, Idaho, Utah, South Carolina, and Georgia - nearly all ruby-red states.

Those "hot spots" you mentioned? Connecticut is the 12th lowest. New Jersey and New York are directly in the middle of the pack at 25th and 26th respectively. Massachusetts is 33rd.

Zeus posted...
The spread of COVID within the US is largely the result of those major cities failing to control things on their side and it spreading outward.
Largely because they had zero support from the federal government until things got so bad that the stock market melted down, which is one of the few things Trump actually seems to care about.

Zeus posted...
Governors have a greater ability to issue that kind of thing than a president and, if a governor was challenging a president's order concerning their state, often the president's order is overturned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supremacy_Clause

Zeus posted...
You're using an alt-news op-ED (why? Because you couldn't find a legitimate source!)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/propublica/

Also, that's a report, not an op-ed. Learn the difference.

Zeus posted...
and then it notes that the move was bi-partisan ("Lawmakers in both parties raised the specter of shortchanging future disaster response even as they voted to approve the cuts.")
They voted for them because that was the only way a budget was getting passed.

Do you seriously not understand how budget negotiations work? Were you not paying attention last decade when the Tea Party routinely threatened to force the US into a default over their infantile, asinine views on the budget?

Zeus posted...
And prior to using PPE during his term, Obama hadn't ever made that a priority even when he had a SUPER-MAJORITY as opposed to an easily filibustered or obstructed simple majority that Trump briefly had.
The stockpile wasn't depleted when he had a super-majority, bright-eyes; the biggest event that depleted the stockpile was the swine flu pandemic, which lasted until August 2010, mere months before the Tea Party Republicans seized control of the House. The Ebola epidemic in 2014 further hit the PPE supply and by that point the Republicans had full control of congress.

Additionally, Trump had his "brief" majority for the same amount of time that Obama had his.

And none of the Democrats ever objected to replenishing the PPE stockpile. If the Republicans wanted it, they could have passed it at any point during the last 3.5 years and they probably would have gotten most of the Democrats to vote in favour of it as well.

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10/30/20 1:49:38 AM
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Zeus looking like a fool up in here.

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Lokarin
10/30/20 1:54:08 AM
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Zeus posted...
Somewhat satisfied.

Sounds like you were born yesterday.

Same guy.

And, for fun:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmVjAMm1ryA

Because apparently rhetorically wondering aloud if something like that could be done is exactly the same as telling people to do something.

Except in no world except the hyper-partisan, far-left world of #NeverTrumpers could anybody believe that nonsense. First, the areas initially hit hardest were far-left enclaves where, if Trump said "wear a mask!", most citizens would decry him as fascist and do the OPPOSITE on general principle. Second, it presupposes that a president has the powers of a king rather the elected leader of a democratic-republic. If Trump mandated stay-at-home, masks, etc, almost every governor in the country would block him and many of the first would be the liberal states whining about him now... and his orders would almost certainly be reversed by the courts. Third, previous administrations had depleted (and not replaced) the supply of PPE, so Trump was faced with a problem largely created by administrations like the Obama/Biden one which makes Biden's criticisms of unpreparedness all the more ridiculous.


I might agree - not to back trump or anything, but if "Obama caused Hurricane Katrina" then I certainly can say Trump caused covid

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PMarth2002
10/30/20 2:10:48 AM
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He's a corrupt, narcissistic incompetent, lying con-artist who courts racists and homophobes, uses fascist rhetoric in his speeches, and gives zero fucks about anyone besides himself.

I hate him and everything he pretends to stand for. He is a terrible human being and has no business being the president.

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Revelation34
10/30/20 3:23:44 AM
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darkknight109 posted...
threatened to force the US into a default


The only problem with defaulting would be because the country would never be trusted with a loan again. There's no way anybody could actually force the debt to be paid.
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darkknight109
10/30/20 11:31:55 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
The only problem with defaulting would be because the country would never be trusted with a loan again. There's no way anybody could actually force the debt to be paid.

The US defaulting would be a financial event so cataclysmic, I'm not sure anybody would be able to actually predict all of the spin-off effects in detail. It's the financial equivalent of "what would happen if the US randomly launched off all their nuclear weapons?". It's a hell of a lot more serious than "the country would never be trusted with a loan again" (which, notably, isn't true).

Yes, no one has the ability to force the US (or any other sovereign entity) to pay a debt, that is true. But no one has to demand that the US pay up for it to cause a crisis - that's actually the last of America's worries in that scenario. Hell, the overwhelming majority of US debt is owned by American entities - private individuals, pension plans, corporations and, bizarrely, the government itself (yes, some branches of the US government have bought debt owed by other branches so they can use the interest as income - wrap your head around that one).

The first thing that would happen if the US stopped paying interest is that people would stop buying government bonds and would try and get rid of the ones they have (since they are now bad debt), which is pretty much the single-most damaging thing debt-holders can do given that the US is relying on their purchase of bonds to pay for the budget deficit (currently standing at over $1 trillion dollars and that's prior to a huge spike caused by COVID).

The US and the dollar are only important financially *because* they are seen as the ultimate safe-haven. Because the US is the world's strongest economy and doesn't default on its debts. US government bonds are one of the safest investments in the entire world, because of the US's unique status.

If the US suddenly announces that it is no longer paying the interest on its debt, that status is immediately and permanently lost. The initial effects would be something akin to a bank run on a mammoth scale, as capital flees the greenback in search of safer havens. The US would struggle to generate capital at this point - no one wants to lend to a country that has arbitrarily decided to no longer pay its debts. It would be faced with an unsavoury choice of having to spike interest rates in order to attract lenders willing to accept high risk, or going on an austerity binge to cut its own expenditures and start repairing its economy. Probably both. Meanwhile, the value of US bonds would plummet, as they would now be seen as having a fraction of their previous value thanks to their new risky status, and anyone who owns them would immediately be trying to sell them off as fast as possible.

However, because US bonds are the benchmark against which all other bonds are set, something that causes the interest rate on US bonds to spike will do the same to virtually everything else. Overnight, everything would immediately become significantly more expensive, as the interest rates on car loans, mortgages, business loans, and virtually every other form of debt or bond suddenly increases, likely by an enormous amount; banks would severely curtail their lending, unwilling to take on risk in such a volatile environment. That would trigger a meltdown, as companies lay off employees and minimize investments as they scramble to try and adjust to the higher cost of doing business.

Stock markets around the world would crash, with ground zero being US markets. The US would struggle to pay its own bills, including to government workers and to social programs like Social Security and Medicare. Retirement plans would become worthless overnight. The resultant inflation would wipe out a significant portion of everyone's savings, as the price of living soars.

This, however, still manages to be a gross oversimplification of what would happen. As previously mentioned, something as catastrophic as a US default would be such a calamitous and unprecedented event, I'm not sure there's anyone in the world who could accurately predict and quantify everything that would come out of it.

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GGuirao13
10/30/20 12:42:55 PM
#35:


Completely dissatisfied.

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HelIWithoutSin
10/30/20 1:08:37 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
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I hope you have citations for all of that.

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Blightzkrieg
10/30/20 1:14:01 PM
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I initially thought of it as a joke, assumed he'd be removed by 2018, and we'd have President Pence for three years.

He was worse than literally anything I could have predicted, and the lengths Republicans would go to defend him was the most shocking part.

I went from a furry shitposter to an Antifa terrorist in the span of like six months.

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darkknight109
11/02/20 10:59:15 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
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I hope you have citations for all of that.
What part do you need citations for?

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HelIWithoutSin
11/02/20 11:06:49 PM
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darkknight109 posted...
What part do you need citations for?

Not me, for Rev, or he'll post an Office meme at you.

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BlackScythe0
11/02/20 11:08:29 PM
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HelIWithoutSin posted...
Not me, for Rev, or he'll post an Office meme at you.

I would just ignore Rev. His gimmick is just to get you to waste your time.
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WhiskeyDisk
11/02/20 11:09:21 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Trump caused 200,000+ American deaths.

you misspelled "China".

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Mead
11/02/20 11:11:55 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
you misspelled "China".

wild how China was way better at killing people in the US compared to the rest of the world

Im sure that has nothing to do with the guy on charge having next to zero understanding of how government works or how to manage a response to a serious situation facing our nation

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WhiskeyDisk
11/02/20 11:15:03 PM
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Mead posted...
wild how China was way better at killing people in the US compared to the rest of the world

Im sure that has nothing to do with the guy on charge having next to zero understanding of how government works or how to manage a response to a serious situation facing our nation


funny how China prevented travel from Wuhan to the rest of China, but if you wanted to fly abroad, the world was your fucking oyster.

and when Trump tried to stop travel from China, he was called "racist and Xenophobic".

then when Covid took root here, it was "why didn't he act sooner?"



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Mead
11/02/20 11:26:04 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
funny how China prevented travel from Wuhan to the rest of China, but if you wanted to fly abroad, the world was your fucking oyster.

and when Trump tried to stop travel from China, he was called "racist and Xenophobic".

then when Covid took root here, it was "why didn't he act sooner?"


except trump had no idea what he was doing so the travel ban was toothless and barely stopped anyone flying in from China, not to mention that by that point we knew most cases were coming in from Europe!

It took a full two months after that for trump to implement any kind of Europe travel restrictions and his messaging about it was so mismanaged and all over the place that it created a panic that US citizens in Europe wouldnt be able to return to the US.

That panic created a situation where tens of thousands of people all flew back to the US in a short period of time, from all over the world, and since trump again had no plan in place for anything they all got stuck waiting in small areas confined together where social distancing was impossible

But keep in mind he was downplaying the virus the whole time so he wouldnt create a panic

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WhiskeyDisk
11/02/20 11:33:55 PM
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be afraid shitizen, be very afraid.

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Mead
11/02/20 11:37:41 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
be afraid shitizen, be very afraid.

yeah scurry away

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WhiskeyDisk
11/02/20 11:44:13 PM
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scurry away from what, Mead? The trojan horse to put Harris in the White House, despite her having 3% of all the fucks given when she ran on her own?

Now THAT'S what I CALL "The Will Of The People!"



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BlackScythe0
11/02/20 11:49:44 PM
#48:


WhiskeyDisk posted...
scurry away from what, Mead? The trojan horse to put Harris in the White House, despite her having 3% of all the fucks given when she ran on her own?

You just jump to weird unrelated topics don't you? But that is what conservatives do.
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WhiskeyDisk
11/02/20 11:50:19 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
You just jump to weird unrelated topics don't you? But that is what conservatives do.


shhh, you. the adults are talking.

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Yellow
11/02/20 11:54:10 PM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
funny how China prevented travel from Wuhan to the rest of China, but if you wanted to fly abroad, the world was your fucking oyster.

and when Trump tried to stop travel from China, he was called "racist and Xenophobic".

then when Covid took root here, it was "why didn't he act sooner?"

Preventing travel from China would have done jack shit and that's what it was criticized for. It was just his typical kneejerk uninformed reaction.



@WhiskeyDisk
@Zeus
@Wanded

Hey pals, remember when Trump stood on the podium and asked that doctors looked into shining UV light into people's lungs? And you could visibly see the shock on the doctor in the background? Sounds like a guy that knows what he's doing.

I'm sure the current president has nothing to do with his country being the most infected in the world.

"Intellectual political commentators"

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