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CarefreeDude 10/28/20 7:57:12 PM #1: |
Who do you think is the best FORMER president of all time (As in, not currently in office)?
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likehelly 10/28/20 8:22:06 PM #2: |
i read that as fomor and was like
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Zeus 10/28/20 8:30:09 PM #3: |
Well, Jimmy Carter may have been a lousy president, but apparently he's still out there helping people so... I guess he's a candidate? Kinda depends on what you mean. Some presidents continued to do a lot for the country after they left office, some continued to help to benefit their party, others basically just lined their pockets, and others kinda exited political life entirely to do other things.
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Jen0125 10/28/20 8:32:02 PM #4: |
Probably FDR
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CaptainStrong 10/28/20 8:35:54 PM #5: |
FDR
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 8:41:06 PM #6: |
I gotta go with Lincoln.
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Zeus 10/28/20 8:44:07 PM #7: |
CaptainStrong posted...
FDR FDR was an incestuous fascist whose reckless policies hobbled America for generations to come. IronBornCorps posted... I gotta go with Lincoln. A president who literally brought America to war with itself is a pretty shitty president. While people praise him for the reconstruction, it wouldn't have been necessary if not for his destruction. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 8:47:06 PM #8: |
Zeus are you here to just judge others opinion?
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CaptainStrong 10/28/20 8:48:47 PM #9: |
Zeus posted...
FDR was an incestuous fascist whose reckless policies hobbled America for generations to come.You're literally describing Donald Trump. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 10/28/20 8:52:55 PM #10: |
Zeus posted...
FDR was an incestuous fascist whose reckless policies hobbled America for generations to come. How could you confuse FDR with Trump? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 8:53:10 PM #11: |
CaptainStrong posted...
You're literally describing Donald Trump. Trump has done pretty well dividing the country as well. How many people think Civil War 2: Electric Bugaloo is looming? --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 10/28/20 8:54:26 PM #12: |
IronBornCorps posted...
There won't be one. Nobody who's a liberal would be stupid enough to go against conservatives in an actual war when most are against owning guns. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JigsawTDC 10/28/20 8:59:12 PM #13: |
Zeus posted...
A president who literally brought America to war with itself is a pretty shitty president. While people praise him for the reconstruction, it wouldn't have been necessary if not for his destruction. Can you solely blame the president for all the other factors that led to the Civil War? And I'd say the destruction of slavery was a pretty big step towards the nation achieving the ideals it set for itself. So the destruction was necessary. Unless you're arguing that slavery was a good thing, which I wouldn't put past you! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 10/28/20 9:00:12 PM #14: |
Came in to say FDR but totally happy that others have already said that.
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 9:02:06 PM #15: |
Revelation34 posted...
There won't be one. Nobody who's a liberal would be stupid enough to go against conservatives in an actual war when most are against owning guns. You're right, liberals wouldn't do that. Also, I never said it was happening, it's a discussion point I've seen on social media, so it's on someone's mind. Either way, you can't argue that the country is not divided right now. --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 10/28/20 9:05:31 PM #16: |
Zeus posted...
A president who literally brought America to war with itself is a pretty shitty president. While people praise him for the reconstruction, it wouldn't have been necessary if not for his destruction. He in some ways made my life harder as a kid, although I prob only survived early on because of school lunches, so I guess I need to blame him for that as well. It was MUCH harder to get a job when I was 11-14 or so because of child labor laws though. I had to work at christmas tree lots, and under the table jobs only. That being said, many of his changes were amazing, and he build up the infrastructure more than any other president. Maybe he wasn't perfect, but we need more progressive presidents like that in my opinion. If he had been able to continue, everyone would have the right to a job right now, which I think would be great (no welfare etc, just everyone has work they can do, and should do). I don't even think that is needed anymore because you can automate most menial labor jobs at this point, but for the past 40 years or so, I would have much prefered everyone having a job (and even being required to answer phones etc if your disabled), than welfare/disability etc. Work is an important part of a healthy life I believe. Anyway FDR at least did something and tried to make America better (for everyone not just the rich). Nobody is perfect but I sure would like more presidents like him, especially now. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CaptainStrong 10/28/20 9:05:44 PM #17: |
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How could you confuse FDR with Trump? incestuousWants to fuck his daughter. fascistAttacking peaceful protesters to do a photo op with a Bible and threatening to bring in the military to stop protests. reckless policiesPretending a pandemic doesn't exist and doing rallies filled with maskless dumbasses. hobbled America for generations to comePutting three far-right Justices on the Supreme Court who will deem anything a Democrat does unconstitutional for the next few decades. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 10/28/20 9:08:20 PM #18: |
IronBornCorps posted...
Trump has done pretty well dividing the country as well. How many people think Civil War 2: Electric Bugaloo is looming? There is no civil war coming. Some more terrorist attacks? Guaranteed, they're doing that even while Trump is still in office him losing will just fire them up even more. I don't think a few militias will be able to rise it to a level of a civil war though. Trumpsters are just giving themselves too much credit thinking they can be freedom fighters when if they take up arms they'll just be terrorists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 9:10:04 PM #19: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
There is no civil war coming. Some more terrorist attacks? Guaranteed, they're doing that even while Trump is still in office him losing will just fire them up even more. I don't think a few militias will be able to rise it to a level of a civil war though. Guess you didn't see my post after that. It's those same militias talking about it and "preparing" for it, but I don't believe it's going to happen. --- "A kiss makes your day but anal makes your whole week!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CarefreeDude 10/28/20 9:12:17 PM #20: |
*makes topic specifically not about trump*
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 9:16:45 PM #21: |
Sorry, I contributed to that a bit <.<
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wolfy42 10/28/20 9:16:56 PM #22: |
CarefreeDude posted...
*makes topic specifically not about trump* Please don't turn into trump, one is more than enough. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raddest_Chad 10/28/20 9:21:26 PM #23: |
Teddy Roosevelt. If he'd won in 1912 the world would be a fucking utopia today.
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Zeus 10/28/20 9:31:03 PM #24: |
IronBornCorps posted...
Zeus are you here to just judge others opinion? Well, now I am. CaptainStrong posted... You're literally describing Donald Trump. BlackScythe0 posted... How could you confuse FDR with Trump? Trump could never hope to do as much damage as FDR. The only way you'd reach FDR's level of disaster is if you appointed somebody like AOC. IronBornCorps posted... How many people think Civil War 2: Electric Bugaloo is looming? Which is basically asking: "How many people are idiots?" Because, unlike the "Civil" War (which wasn't really a Civil War so much as it was a war of secession, same as the American Revolution), we don't have the same kind of clear division if the nation were to split. JigsawTDC posted... Can you solely blame the president for all the other factors that led to the Civil War? And I'd say the destruction of slavery was a pretty big step towards the nation achieving the ideals it set for itself. So the destruction was necessary. Considering he was at least partly responsible for many of those factors, you kinda can. Had it looked like a more moderate candidate was to be elected, it might have been avoided. You know what would have made Lincoln a great president? If he had brokered a reconciliation that didn't cost anybody their lives! JigsawTDC posted... Unless you're arguing that slavery was a good thing, which I wouldn't put past you! And apparently I can't put anything past you, considering you think the ONLY way to end slavery is with war despite the fact that EVERY other major colonizing, slave-owning power at the time managed to end slavery without going to war with itself. It's a false dilemma. If not for Lincoln, slavery might have lasted slightly longer but it was literally always going to go away because it was going away on a worldwide level CarefreeDude posted... *makes topic specifically not about trump* Considering that far-leftists defend criticisms of horrible presidents with "BUT TRUMP!!!" whataboutisms, it's inevitable. It's also hilarious because their whataboutisms cite things that those other presidents did to a far worse degree. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dragon504 10/28/20 9:31:15 PM #25: |
Teddy of course
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Metalsonic66 10/28/20 9:46:19 PM #26: |
Slick Willie
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CaptainStrong 10/28/20 9:47:17 PM #27: |
Zeus posted...
Well, now I am.What did FDR do that was so bad? Getting us out of the Great Depression? Implementing social safety nets? Improving our infrastructure? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 10/28/20 9:50:29 PM #28: |
CarefreeDude posted...
*makes topic specifically not about trump* Ah sorry sometimes it's hard to not to respond to Zeus when he says really bizarre stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IronBornCorps 10/28/20 9:50:51 PM #29: |
FDR did the interment camps for Japanese Americans
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Nichtcrawler X 10/28/20 11:24:58 PM #30: |
Zeus posted...
I might not be that fluent in cousin numberings, but fifth cousin, once removed does not sound like close family to me, or even relevant family at all. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClarkDuke 10/28/20 11:43:00 PM #31: |
BlackScythe0 posted...
How could you confuse FDR with Trump?he stopped taking his medications because the cost was to high, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 10/29/20 6:03:55 AM #32: |
IronBornCorps posted...
It is divided. There won't be a war because it would be completely one sided. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FatalAccident 10/29/20 6:09:27 AM #33: |
obama
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FatalAccident 10/29/20 6:11:44 AM #34: |
@Zeus is good at shitting on everyones opinions but who u think the best pres was bruh
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Sonicplys 10/29/20 6:14:52 AM #35: |
Obama i wish he would be in office for 40 years
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Gaawa_chan 10/29/20 6:58:35 AM #36: |
Pretty much all of the US presidents have been somewhere between mixed to atrocious on racial issues/events... I guess it's either Teddy or FDR. A lot of the people that diss FDR seem unaware of the fact that most of his economic policies were implemented either to prevent revolution from taking full root in the USA after the Depression or to advance the USA's position against foreign entities, with the Axis Powers being the most obvious example. For all the bitching about said policies, they are probably what kept the USA from having to fight a full-on revolt of the economically devastated working class, and pushed back the rising support for fascism in the USA.
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BUMPED2002 10/29/20 8:39:15 AM #37: |
I'd have to go with Jimmy Carter. Way back in the 1970s, Carter attempted to warn the country that the Elites were trying to takeover and that they were looking for cheap labor which was found once Nixon convinced China to meet and right around the mid 1970s, is when the Corporate Coup D'Etat began in which major US manufacturing companies began to ship American jobs offshore looking for cheap labors sans any benefits or rules and regulations and they found it in China.
Carter also tried to warn American hourly paid workers that the country was becoming one of consumption. From the 1940s until the 1970s, American hourly paid workers prospered because unlike today, workers shared in the profits that they had helped make and as a result of that, people were buying homes, multiple vehicles, etc and just spending money foolishly and by the time the 1980s rolled around, all that working class people had gained from the end of WW2 had been lost. Gone were the decent wages, benefits, company retirement plans, labor unions, Government rules and regulations etc which had all been watered down and that's where we're at today. And those jobs that were lost during the Corporate Coup D'Etat are never coming back and the jobs that replaced them were low paying menial service oriented jobs like UPS, Amazon, hotels, fast food etc. --- SpankageBros ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler X 10/29/20 8:46:27 AM #38: |
BUMPED2002 posted...
I'd have to go with Jimmy Carter. Maybe if he continued and concluded one of Ford's biggest changes? --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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likehelly 10/29/20 8:54:54 AM #39: |
FatalAccident posted...
@Zeus is good at shitting on everyones opinions but who u think the best pres was bruh --- paint me as the villain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClarkDuke 10/30/20 6:08:03 PM #40: |
FatalAccident posted...
@Zeus is good at shitting on everyones opinions but who u think the best pres was bruhhe's already told us, he thought president putin, did a fantastic job, ok? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Baardmeester 10/30/20 6:41:14 PM #41: |
Andrew Jackson because he fought the banks.
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Judgmenl 10/30/20 7:34:36 PM #42: |
There was that short period of time Balor was President. I don't think there's been a President since.
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Metalsonic66 10/30/20 8:41:53 PM #43: |
Baardmeester posted...
Andrew Jackson because he fought the banks.I hear he killed a bunch of British soldiers with a rusty spork or something --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfestedAdam 10/30/20 8:48:18 PM #44: |
Overall with my limited knowledge of previous presidents, Teddy would be my first choice.
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faramir77 10/30/20 9:11:00 PM #45: |
Zeus posted...
an incestuous fascist whose reckless policies hobbled America for generations to come. BlackScythe0 posted... How could you confuse FDR with Trump? It honestly was a perfect description, down to every word. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smarkil 10/30/20 9:29:27 PM #47: |
Im giving it to Washington. As far as I know, he's the only president to never want the job and he only did it because the country needed him. He refused more power when it was offered to him and he was of course instrumental in the creation of the country. In retrospect, he like many others, had faults of the time but he was unanimously elected and had the love of the people. From what I understand he was also very conscientious of objections to his rule and made efforts to bridge division among congress, his staff, etc. He also was very committed to being neutral as a country which I think is a good think (mostly).
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SantaKhala 11/03/20 2:43:02 AM #48: |
Abraham Lincoln, hands down. He fought that Civil War against Democrats to abolish slavery. That is a big deal.
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Zareth 11/03/20 4:03:51 AM #49: |
Washington could have been a dictator but turned it down.
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Tha_Man_DS 11/03/20 4:08:37 AM #50: |
FatalAccident posted...
obama Sonicplys posted... Obama i wish he would be in office for 40 years Ahhh... The people who know 0 about politics arrived too! :) --- It's dangerous to go alone! Take this. Switch FC: SW-3553-2450-1242 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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