Board 8 > King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) R4D6: Hades vs The Flash (High)

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NFUN
10/23/20 11:53:31 PM
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Welcome to blah

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78971300

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Hades (Kid Icarus)


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The Flash (Board 8)


@Dantezoid @Shonen_Bat

FIGHT

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Shonen_Bat
10/24/20 12:20:39 AM
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I wouldn't be that surprised if Flash had a way to put Hades down for good, he's pretty ridiculous. But I feel like he fucks up and lets himself get hit before he takes this seriously enough to break out whatever kind of power he'd need to win. And I don't think that's a hit he wants to take, Hades' hits look like natural disasters.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/24/20 9:31:13 AM
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I actually think Flash wins for precisely that reason. Hades is too massive and dangerous to fuck around with. It'd have to be a super low tier Flash for him to lose against a walking catastrophe, since that's a good excuse to break out the speed force shenanigans.

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DeathChicken
10/24/20 9:37:18 AM
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Which Flash is this again? I could see Wally fucking around, maybe. Barry would just speed rob him and call it a day

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NFUN
10/24/20 11:46:27 AM
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barry

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DeathChicken
10/24/20 12:04:06 PM
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Barry. He's definitely the smart Flash

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Kamekguy
10/24/20 12:45:59 PM
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Does Barry have any dead family for Hades to threaten to kill their souls forever? I'm basically only super familiar with Wally.

Because that's the only way I can see Hades winning this. Like straight-up, the counter to him eating Pit and sending him to his extradimensional stomach was "hit him with the chariot that moves really, really fast". But Hades does have:

-Absolute consciousness and presence in every part of the Underworld, even when he's not there.
-The ability to command and morph any souls down there into mindless monsters
-That plot point where he purposefully tried to trick humanity into eradicating themselves by making up a magic wish that didn't actually exist that was so well-crafted, other deities believed it.

And I have vague memories of Barry being very emotionally stupid. That and I don't see Barry winning in one punch - Hades' regen is pretty nuts, and his durability even moreso. I see Hades getting immobilized, easily, but I also see him trying to figure out how to win after "oh crap I can't attack anymore". It's a stomp otherwise, just wanted to throw out the possibility.

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Shonen_Bat
10/24/20 4:26:44 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_(Barry_Allen)

When Barry was a child, his mother was murdered, and Barry's father was unjustly blamed.

if the question is 'does this superhero have a tragic parent backstory' the answer is probably yes

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KanzarisKelshen
10/24/20 5:50:40 PM
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Flash, but Shonen and Kamek both make compelling points, fwiw. I think Barry wins this probably, but it's not an easy match. He very much will have to work for it. Would be a sweet issue to read, actually.

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Shonen_Bat
10/24/20 5:58:39 PM
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How does Barry deal with his family being threatened? Hades is in the good position of not instantly losing to being speed blitzed or speed stolen, and once he gets away from the first encounter and starts coming up with plans, this is his game.

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Kamekguy
10/24/20 6:12:54 PM
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I just want a world where Hades turns Barry's mom's soul into an evil eggplant.

"Yes Barry, in order to kill me, you'd have to kill your eggplant-mother's soul, to ensure she never rests in peace. The only thing lower than your moral standing will be your popularity."

Totally give Hades the cred to think of it, too - Kid Icarus characters barely care about the fourth wall, and Hades far less so than others.

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Lopen
10/24/20 6:13:28 PM
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Flash

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Shonen_Bat
10/24/20 6:19:24 PM
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Going to vote Hades unless someone gives a good reason why Flash doesn't lose to the soul hostage thing. The only way he's not able to pull it off is if he loses right away, and he doesn't lose right away

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redrocket
10/24/20 7:08:57 PM
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Why doesnt he lose right away?

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Shonen_Bat
10/24/20 7:27:29 PM
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Hades has the durability and regeneration to take a big hit and laugh it off, and he's clever enough to know he's in a losing fight and warp out to find a new strategy. Wally doesn't know about his regeneration in advance, so he won't know that he needs to make Hades extra-dead until he's already out of there.

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NFUN
10/24/20 7:28:15 PM
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Hades

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rwlh
10/24/20 7:36:14 PM
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Hades
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Kamekguy
10/24/20 8:42:22 PM
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... oh right Barry was Flashpoint.

Hades

I am now fully confident Barry will try to find another way. And that it'll somehow end up worse for him.

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