Board 8 > King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) R4D5: Terrarian vs Aang (Mid)

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The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78971300

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
The Terrarian (Terraria)
https://imgur.com/YXkXvS6

Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender)


@Johnbobb

FIGHT

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Terraria sucks vote Aang

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hmm. I think Terraria is as good a game as Avatar is a show

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NFUN posted...

hmm. I think Terraria is as good a game as Avatar is a show

I second this

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To actually discuss the match... I'm leaning Aang. In terms of balance and stamina, I think he has the edge. Aang is significantly more mobile than Terraria bosses in general (at the least, he's not gonna give the Terrarian easy DPS phases), and most of the end-game weapons the Terrarian will have can be dealt with. Strong wind to deflect SDMG bullets, rock/fire walls for missiles, mobility for the sword projectiles. The magic weapons would be more of a challenge, but I think Aang could defend himself for long enough for the Terrarian to run out of magic and nerf himself. Aang will fight entirely differently than the bosses the Terrarian is prepared to deal with, and I don't think he'll be able to fully defend himself. Plus, the Terrarian will certainly spawn in the forest, and I imagine Aang would too. With Aang's scouting experience, they'd probably find each other pretty quickly, before the Terrarian can really get the materials to brew some potions

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I haven't played Terraria and don't feel like researching rn

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don't really feel like arguing this right now but I just want to add that Terrarian does have experience against an agile opponent throwing element attacks around

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5QFsX_cUuXo

it's the first boss there, the cultist dude

even if they lose they aren't going to be helpless in this matchup

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Shonen_Bat posted...

don't really feel like arguing this right now but I just want to add that Terrarian does have experience against an agile opponent throwing element attacks around

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5QFsX_cUuXo

it's the first boss there, the cultist dude

even if they lose they aren't going to be helpless in this matchup

I mentioned DPS phases. Cultist has one (half the time he's standing still casting a spell, which is when you attack him. when he's flying around you can try but you're not gonna be doing anything significant). Aang won't have anything like that

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the real takeaway from that is Terrarian won't much trouble avoiding Aang's attacks, they're not really anything new to him and he's able to dodge lightning, if he's not just tanking it

Not saying Terrarian will have an easy time hitting Aang either, but in a match where both fighters have trouble landing good hits I'm more inclined for the one that passively heals

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Is there any attack that Terrarian wouldn't just get bounced back at him that'd hit a ranged opponent?

Because I figure "current of wind that is actively sending your projectiles back at you" will end poorly with missile spam, and Aang's got a solid analogue in Ozai for beam-based weapons and being able to avoid those.

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Kamekguy posted...

Is there any attack that Terrarian wouldn't just get bounced back at him that'd hit a ranged opponent?

magic

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Also lasers in general

Also also, summoning a star dragon

Leaning the Player here. He has every reason to control the terms of engagement, and 'I beat Cthulhu's relative' is a hell of a lot more impressive than most things Aang's done, as is traveling to the center of the earth and all that other jazz.

Also, I forgot to say this, but he doesn't need to aim to hit Aang either. Chlorophyll bullets have massive homing, so the Player can just focus on flying around while summons and homing shots chase Aang and it's kind of a bad look for the latter since he's fragile.

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Lasers in a world where lightning is shot out instantly and can be countered/redirected do not impress me much. If it can reliably be considered 'energy', even stuff like pure darkness when we extrapolate toward Korra, there's an equivalent in TLA enough to make me confident that Aang could bend it back.

How's Terraria man's durability? Can he take what he dishes out? I entirely believe he controls the engagement, but I also believe Aang wins this purely through counter-measures. Does he have enough stamina to adapt to that, potentially? No doubt he can kill the kid, just wanna know if he can survive a "no u". You die most often in roguelikes when you don't know how the encounter you face counters you, after all!

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PVP is a thing in Terraria, so he can quite literally take what he dishes out

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~12 fireballs from the Cultist would kill the player. ~7 lightning strikes, 5 of his energy balls, etc. I'm assuming Aang has comparable power to this guy. If we take damage scaling at face value, if he can pull it off (which I have doubts of, personally), a second of redirecting the Terrarian's magic attacks would kill him, and around that many shots with his machine gun would also work.

the health regeneration is not really significant while in a fight, particularly one with a lot of stuff flowing around that could do minor damage often

Shonen_Bat posted...

PVP is a thing in Terraria, so he can quite literally take what he dishes out

for a very short time. he is really not tanky relative to his weapons

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Terrarian isn't going to stand there and let all of his redirected attacks hit him, most of Terraria's big fights are centered around dodging so he's pretty good at it. This fight probably isn't going to be at short range very often, so even if he didn't have the reflexes to dodge lightning I couldn't see him taking much damage from his own attacks. Not enough to kill him, certainly.

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Shonen_Bat posted...

Terrarian isn't going to stand there and let all of his redirected attacks hit him, most of Terraria's big fights are centered around dodging so he's pretty good at it. This fight probably isn't going to be at short range very often, so even if he didn't have the reflexes to dodge lightning I couldn't see him taking much damage from his own attacks. Not enough to kill him, certainly.

eh, part of the reason he's good at dodging is that the enemy can be predicted. i'll even grant that he could probably get a read on Aang. but late-game terraria weapons are very spammy. his machine gun will shoot at at least 12 rounds/second, for example. if his attacks are getting reflected at all, that makes the battlefield much more chaotic and dangerous in the area around the Terrarian. he won't be melted by his own attacks quickly, but it's a hazard that he's gonna get burned by at least a couple times

honestly, I think the fight just comes down to the Last Prism (shoots out a bunch of lasers in a cone that converge to a point, doing a ton of damage). It's every terraria player's favorite weapon to use, and i'd imagine it'd be an opening by the player. if aang gets booped by it, he loses. if he dodges it, it comes to the war of attrition that i think he has the advantage in. if he redirects it, the terrarian won't have time to dodge and will get wrecked.

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This is a reminder The Player has invisibility options on top of flight btw

I genuinely don't think Aang gets to play here. He's facing an opponent who is definitely tankier, more mobile, knows he's coming thanks to the PDA, AND controls the terms of engagement. It's like...what is his advantage? That we assume he can perfectly counter everything the Player dishes out? At a certain point it starts becoming more and more improbable that he can survive a multi round homing shot burst from the SDMG without getting ventilated, and that's not even including the fact the Player also has weapons that can allow him to become a draintank too if you think it matters. You have to believe Aang has a massive skill advantage to win and I don't, so this match seems kinda easy to me.

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Oh yeah, and lest we forget he's also dealt with enemies that bounce attacks back at him too

Like that's a fight canonically necessary to finish the game since it's part of the Lunar Events, and it's much more irritating than dealing with a single reflective enemy since it's against an actual horde of assholes who do this. I genuinely can't think of a single gimmick Aang can try the Player hasn't seen before.

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Aang

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no way the terrarian gets the materials to make an invisibility potion

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aang earthbends all the building materials away

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NFUN posted...

no way the terrarian gets the materials to make an invisibility potion

He doesn't need it. Vortex armor has an invisibility mode. You'll notice my arguments center on shooty stuff for a reason, as I think it's the most 'complete' form of the Player.

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fair enough

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Can't Terrarian just warp back to his spawn point at will (cell phone) if he ever gets near death?
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Terrarian

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Terrarian

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