Board 8 > King of Fighters 2020 (NOT MERCS) R4D4: Kenshiro vs Revolver Ocelot (Low)

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NFUN
10/21/20 7:52:58 PM
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Welcome to blah

The game is simple. The two* listed characters are placed in an (imaginary) location with a variety of (imaginary) environments, kind of like a picture in a child's schoolbook that describes different types of geological features. Within a ten mile radius, there is an (imaginary) urban downtown, exurbs, plains, snow-clad mountains at the edge, dry plains, etc. Fighters start wherever is most appropriate for them, but feel increasingly compelled to seek out their opponent and fight. Strong-willed fighters can try to hold out in their chosen environment for longer... eventually, all will succumb and actively search for the other to battle.

To participate, just vote in bold for whichever character you believe will win. Giving reasoning is optional, but please be polite and read what others have said and carefully make your decision. I'll ping the nominators (they can opt out) to give arguments if they wish.

Results/Discussion: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78971300

TODAY'S PARTICIPANTS:
Kenshiro (Fist of the North Star)


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Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)

Revolver Ocelot

@DeathChicken

again, same nominator. guess some people are good at making me mistier

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ZeeksFire
10/21/20 8:13:54 PM
#2:


Kenshiro

insane bullet tricks aren't going to save Ocelot here against this monster.
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Drakeryn
10/21/20 8:15:09 PM
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Kenshiro

speed wins fights

also doesn't Kenshiro swat bullets out of the air
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ZeeksFire
10/21/20 8:18:40 PM
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I actually looked for that, and couldn't find anything Drakeryn, the closest i could find was vs crossbow, which is quite amusing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH0h-C21ZKI

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Shonen_Bat
10/21/20 8:21:40 PM
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Kenshiro swatting bullets out of the air or making the laws of physics cry with crossbow bolts lmao isn't going to save him from one toonforcing its way into his brain and lobotomizing him

his musou tensei intangibility thing would but would he have the chance to use it? it's not like he'll get to see the bullet coming at him or even being fired

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redrocket
10/21/20 8:41:19 PM
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Kenshiro

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/21/20 8:45:09 PM
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Yeah, that was my bad, I totally misunderstood what someone else was saying (Kenshiro swatted several shots from chain guns out of the air... as in guns that shot chains, which kinda changes the entire meaning of that sentence. -.-)

Kenshiros still stupidly fast and has insane reaction times (Im pretty sure the respect thread showed him catching crossbow bolts in his sleep), but Im not finding anything with actual bullets.
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Raetsel_Lapin
10/21/20 8:48:31 PM
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https://m.imgur.com/a/cDY5G

Never mind, there's the swatting bullets panel.
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Drakeryn
10/21/20 8:56:49 PM
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okay yeah, rip ocelot

swatting bullets is partly speed/perception/precision, but also durability, because his hand is tanking the bullets

I guess you could argue his hand is disproportionately durable or something
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Shonen_Bat
10/21/20 9:04:36 PM
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we're still talking about this ocelot, right?

http://www.doctorshrugs.com/foxhound/comic.php?id=267

swatting bullets away doesn't matter when he can just express deliver them to your internal organs

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Drakeryn
10/21/20 9:05:47 PM
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wait this is foxhound ocelot? I thought it was just mgs ocelot
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Shonen_Bat
10/21/20 9:07:50 PM
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foxhound ocelot is what he was nominated as, it's how he beat Roland

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Drakeryn
10/21/20 9:08:12 PM
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unvote
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10/21/20 9:09:44 PM
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Kenshiro

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DeathChicken
10/21/20 10:28:27 PM
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Yeah, he was labeled as Foxhound Ocelot in round 1, then it was subsequently lost

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Shonen_Bat
10/22/20 12:00:09 AM
#16:


Ocelot

Kenshiro is ridiculous, but if you're against Ocelot and any part of you is weak to bullets, then, ahem.

You are already dead.

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Drakeryn
10/22/20 1:07:16 AM
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Ocelot
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Hbthebattle
10/22/20 1:11:00 AM
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Kenshiro

Kenshiro is ridiculous, but if you're against Ocelot and any part of you is weak to bullets, then, ahem.
I'm reasonably certain that NO part of Kenshiro is weak to bullets

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Shonen_Bat
10/22/20 1:18:20 AM
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As amusing as it would be if his brain/heart/lungs etc were as stupidly tough as the rest of him, they probably aren't, and Ocelot can certainly hit them with his goofy teleporting bullets

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Hbthebattle
10/22/20 1:25:30 AM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
As amusing as it would be if his brain/heart/lungs etc were as stupidly tough as the rest of him, they probably aren't, and Ocelot can certainly hit them with his goofy teleporting bullets
A few problems with this
There's evidence to suggest that Kenshiro CAN infact, defend his internal organs, considering he blocked off his pressure points, which are also based on internal organs. Kenshiro also has a pretty strong healing factor which means that even if Ocelot got a bullet into a vital organ, Kenshiro might just walk it off
Three is that, if that comic is the evidence for Ocelet's teleporting bullets, they were not teleported directly into internal organs. The bird clearly stated that he felt that he was shot and felt pain from his nerves being damaged, thus the bullet had to actually pass through his body. And as we know, that's not going to be possible with Kenshiro.

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Raetsel_Lapin
10/22/20 1:28:40 AM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
swatting bullets away doesn't matter when he can just express deliver them to your internal organs


Does he ever actually do that? Because he shot that bird in a wing, a leg, and an unidentified but not immediately fatal location as it had enough strength left to scream exclamations about the pain. And shooting non-fatal bullets at Kenshiro's limbs arguably wouldn't be a winning strategy.
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Shonen_Bat
10/22/20 1:44:24 AM
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Kenshiro CAN infact, defend his internal organs

If he can defend them from something he won't see coming then he must be packing Garnet's future vision from the Deathstroke match

Kenshiro also has a pretty strong healing factor which means that even if Ocelot got a bullet into a vital organ, Kenshiro might just walk it off

He might walk it off eventually, but he's not going to just Superman tank it and keep fighting, a bullet to pretty much any big organ is going to fuck someone up. Ocelot would have time to take more shots, especially since he doesn't really have to aim them.

if that comic is the evidence for Ocelet's teleporting bullets, they were not teleported directly into internal organs

'they were teleporting but not teleporting well enough' isn't a very compelling argument, he's going to treat a fight to the death differently than target practice with a bird. if he can shoot a bullet through his own head into a target then he can shoot a bullet through their head into a target


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Raetsel_Lapin
10/22/20 2:06:37 AM
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Shonen_Bat posted...
If he can defend them from something he won't see coming then he must be packing Garnet's future vision from the Deathstroke match


He manages to save someone else by catching an arrow fired at them, while sleeping:

http://imgur.com/a/y3dFq

So if it's something he can react to, he could do so without even needing to be conscious or aware a fight is even happening.

So, two questions:

1.Seriously, does he ever teleport a bullet directly into someone or some thing? Because there's a difference between "always hits his target regardless of aim" (as shown with the bird) and warping a bullet inside someone.

2.Does he ever shoot someone without knowing where they are? Because if he has to know where Kenshiro is, that would hurt him quite a bit.
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DeathChicken
10/22/20 8:51:22 AM
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The first, no. The second, probably. He can definitely kill a room full of people with one bullet (somehow)

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Kamekguy
10/22/20 12:19:55 PM
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Kenshiro

FOXHOUND Ocelot is a beyond smug and cocky idiot. Will probably shoot, oh no it didn't work, thank goodness he has his EMP shield to deflect the deflected bullets. Trick shot, Kenshiro goes down. Ocelot gloats, oh no suddenly Kenshiro is up through contracting his muscles to prevent the bullet from reaching his heart instantly, ATATATATATATATATATA. Even canon MGS Ocelot screws up when he thinks he shot someone in the heart, didn't, and gives them time to recoup while he's waxing poetic about his masterminding. Given Ocelot's sadistic nature, I doubt the guy will go for the instant kill "immediately lobotomize 'em" shot he would have to take in order to guarantee victory. Even if he did, I don't know if Kenshiro's body wouldn't just punch Ocelot on instinct post-lobotomy, explode him first, and then die.

Like you can't tell me this fight won't have a delightfully hammy speech about the limitations of the human body versus the advancement of technology in the modern era. And if Kenshiro is alive during that - which he probably will be, I doubt Ocelot would find talking to a corpse half as fun - that's essentially a free shot.

tl;dr, "Do I think Kenshiro can tank one bullet that targets anywhere?" "Yeah probably, or at least to the point where he'll make sure he dies second".

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rwlh
10/22/20 3:21:29 PM
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Kenshiro
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Drakeryn
10/22/20 3:44:03 PM
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okay I defer to Kamek's superior knowledge of Foxhound Ocelot's character

also a double kill did not occur to me but I can see it happening (with Ocelot dying first)

change back to Kenshiro sorry NFUN
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NFUN
10/22/20 3:52:09 PM
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? I'm voting Kenshiro too

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Drakeryn
10/22/20 6:16:22 PM
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for changing like five times when you're tallying
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Pirateking2000
10/22/20 6:50:58 PM
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Kenshiro

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