Poll of the Day > I love when customers call me chef because they love my cooking.

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The feels are realz.

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I bet if Gordon Ramsay ate your food he'd put you in your place real quick. Or maybe you'd be one of the few untrained cooks whose food he actually enjoys!

lol this guy

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JigsawTDC posted...

I bet if Gordon Ramsay ate your food he'd put you in your place real quick. Or maybe you'd be one of the few untrained cooks whose food he actually enjoys!

I am trained though. I've been studying cooking since childhood. Not going to a formal institution doesn't mean I lack knowledge or experience.

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DirtBasedSoap posted...

what

I'm a chef. Even my wife agrees that I should consider consider myself one.

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Not lacking knowledge/experience doesn't mean you've trained as a chef. Most people cook and know how to cook to some degree. Culinary education is usually pretty important if you want to be a recognized chef. You can still get recognition and acclaim without the formal education, of course, but you'd have to have a lot of natural talent and cooking intuition. Again, not saying you lack knowledge or experience, or even that you're a bad cook, but if truly want to be recognized as a chef beyond empty compliments, a bit of culinary education can go a long way.

JigsawTDC posted...

Not lacking knowledge/experience doesn't mean you've trained as a chef. Most people cook and know how to cook to some degree. Culinary education is usually pretty important if you want to be a recognized chef. You can still get recognition and acclaim without the formal education, of course, but you'd have to have a lot of natural talent and cooking intuition. Again, not saying you lack knowledge or experience, or even that you're a bad cook, but if truly want to be recognized as a chef beyond empty compliments, a bit of culinary education can go a long way.

Ain't no-one got time for that

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Ain't no-one got time for that

*nobody

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You are a "chef" though. That's just your job title or at least what folk call a cook.

JigsawTDC posted...

I bet if Gordon Ramsay ate your food he'd put you in your place real quick.

Yes, yes he would.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Ain't no-one got time for that

To be clear, I'm not saying "go to culinary school!!" There's plenty of other avenues for education. And I'd expect you to know that we make our own time, considering you're a zen master. If you wanted to do it, you could find the time for it.

Sunny works cooking for a brewery. I'm not belittling his job but he isn't a 5 star chef and never will be. Though if I could I'd visit his place or work, try his food and leave a scathing review on trip adviser due to the inevitable food poisoning.

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wwinterj25 posted...

Sunny works cooking for a brewery. I'm not belittling his job but he isn't a 5 star chef and never will be. Though if I could I'd visit his place or work, try his food and leave a scathing review on trip adviser due to the inevitable food poisoning.

I've been to plenty of breweries and beer bars across the country that have trained chefs in the kitchen. Some of which have had Michelin stars. If your brewery is making really great beer you'd naturally want great food to go with it.

And again, I'm not saying Sunny's food is horrid and disgusting, I've never tried. I'm sure it's not bad by most standards. But, as I said, if you want to be recognized as an actual chef, a bit of training and knowledge could go a long way. And if anything, it will improve the quality and taste of your product.

JigsawTDC posted...

But, as I said, if you want to be recognized as an actual chef, a bit of training and knowledge could go a long way. And if anything, it will improve the quality and taste of your product.

I have a ton of training.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I have a ton of training.

And some of it is even in cooking! =p

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wwinterj25 posted...

You are a "chef" though. That's just your job title or at least what folk call a cook.

Chef is more specifically the head of the kitchen, they design the menu, train new cooks, and direct people.

That being said, calling someone "chef" is seriously my favorite thing in the world, something clicks in my brain saying "yes chef" when told/ordered to do something.

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shadowsword87 posted...

Chef is more specifically the head of the kitchen, they design the menu, train new cooks, and direct people.

That being said, calling someone "chef" is seriously my favorite thing in the world, something clicks in my brain saying "yes chef" when told/ordered to do something.

I'm in charge of the kitchen at a brewery.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I have a ton of training.

And yet no qualifications. Says something about your training and/or your performance.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

And yet no qualifications. Says something about your training and/or your performance.

Doing a job, successfully, with praise, isn't qualified?

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Doing a job, successfully, with praise, isn't a qualified.

A qualified what? Might want to work on that English qualification.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Doing a job, successfully, with praise, isn't a qualified.

The people who get reamed by Gordon Ramsey have businesses that have been in operation for a long time, they're still awful. You serve the elderly, their tastebuds familiar with war rations and mostly decayed.
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Im willing to bet USD $100 that my meatloaf is better than your meatloaf.

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zebatov posted...

Im willing to bet USD $100 that my meatloaf is better than your meatloaf.

Trick bet. All meatloaf is trash.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

The people who get reamed by Gordon Ramsey have businesses that have been in operation for a long time, they're still awful. You serve the elderly, their tastebuds familiar with war rations and mostly decayed.

You think the elderly want a fresh craft beer and pizza?

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SunWuKung420 posted...

You think the elderly want a fresh craft beer and pizza?

I guess we can add ageist to your list of shitty qualities

Cacciato posted...

I guess we can add ageist to your list of shitty qualities

Yup. Because the forum has never attacked my age.

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I love when my students call me teacher because that's my job.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Yup. Because the forum has never attacked my age.

I think its mainly because we cant believe the dumbass shit you say at your age and hope we dont end up like that.

plus I dont remember anyone else repeatedly claiming how zen they are.

@Cacciato

Search the archive site for my posts about being zen.

The lack of it will make you personally feel extremely stupid.


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SunWuKung420 posted...

@Cacciato

Search the archive site for my posts about being zen.

The lack of it will make you personally feel extremely stupid.

Gonna guess thats how Marie feels on a regular basis

JigsawTDC posted...

I bet if Gordon Ramsay ate your food he'd put you in your place real quick.

To be fair, I wanna say one does not need to be some top-end chef of a three Michelin star restaurant to be proud of one's work.

I work as a civil engineer. At the time I started studying I was thinking of structures like skyscrapers, bridges, etc. 18 years later, I just analyze storage racks and shelving units for warehouses and retail stores. Projects I work on earns the company only a few thousands each but we do maybe 2,500+ such projects each year. Does my work seems like child's play compared to the multi-million dollar projects other engineers work on? Sure. But I still enjoy the work and the satisfaction of helping out our clients.

JigsawTDC posted...

if truly want to be recognized as a chef beyond empty compliments, a bit of culinary education can go a long way.

Please elaborate. Is chef more of a title, position, or both?

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shadowsword87 posted...

Chef is more specifically the head of the kitchen, they design the menu, train new cooks, and direct people.

That being said, calling someone "chef" is seriously my favorite thing in the world, something clicks in my brain saying "yes chef" when told/ordered to do something.

I'm trying to be nice. the fact of the matter is sunny is just a average Joe cook. Over here in the UK those are pub cooks or the like. I don't discredit the job as my own brother has done it for years but it's not what Sunny makes it out to be. Sunny has always been full of himself though.

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I'm average according to winter but being able to run a busy short order line and to create delicious pizzas makes me a chef according to everyone else.

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Youre the same tier chef as someone working at Dennys and Dominos.

That's the best you can do. Isn't that the food you prefer, jazzy? That shitty garbage tier food.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

That's the best you can do. Isn't that the food you prefer, jazzy? That shitty garbage tier food.

Nah. Thats why I wouldnt eat your food. I do like stuffing a good pierogie though.

SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm average according to winter but being able to run a busy short order line and to create delicious pizzas makes me a chef according to everyone else.

Homeless shelters are busy. Doesnt mean the cooks a Michelin Star recipient.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnmCWQLsZuw

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm average according to winter

I mean what more would you be with what you do?

Cacciato posted...

Homeless shelters are busy. Doesnt mean the cooks a Michelin Star recipient.

The general public also would call someone a chef just as a turn of phrase. "Say thanks to the cook" sounds odd where as "thanks to the chef" is a popular phrase. According to Sunny though he's a 5 star chef with a hot wife and lives in the Maldives. He's also perfect in everyway and has the body of a Greek god!

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I'm average according to winter but being able to run a busy short order line and to create delicious pizzas makes me a chef according to everyone else.

Everyone else that understands basically nothing about food service. Being able to handle a busy line and make delicious food are the criteria needed for a food service professional to call themselves "employed," not "chef." "Chef" is a job title more than an actual assessment of your abilities.

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wwinterj25 posted...

The general public also would call someone a chef just as a turn of phrase. "Say thanks to the cook" sounds odd where as "thanks to the chef" is a popular phrase. According to Sunny though he's a 5 star chef with a hot wife and lives in the Maldives. He's also perfect in everyway and has the body of a Greek god!

What? Dude's proud of his work, let him be proud without being a dick about it.

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shadowsword87 posted...

What? Dude's proud of his work, let him be proud without being a dick about it.

Their hate just makes me stronger but I still feel very sorry for them. Harboring that much negativity is unhealthy.

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Oh, I do have a cooking question for you.

The "burger sauce" stuff that restaurants make and then everyone talks about how great it is. It's just mayo+stuff generally. What's a good initial thing for me to make at home, and then I can then adjust for myself later? I'll probably add a pinch of MSG in it, but, I'm not sure what else to add.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Doing a job, successfully, with praise, isn't qualified?

Praise doesn't count as credentials, unless perhaps that praise is coming from noted food critics and famous chefs. Similarly, if you were praised for your knowledge on a subject and called a professor, that wouldn't make you a professor (although you could rightly claim the meaningless title of "expert," which has no qualifications attached).

In the case of you being called a chef, that's a hyperbolic compliment. You don't have the credentials and almost certainly don't have the skills to be called a chef.

shadowsword87 posted...

Chef is more specifically the head of the kitchen, they design the menu, train new cooks, and direct people.

That being said, calling someone "chef" is seriously my favorite thing in the world, something clicks in my brain saying "yes chef" when told/ordered to do something.

tbh, after watching Gordon Ramsay, I kinda got into that whole thing. And besides sounding cool, it has a very practical element.

InfestedAdam posted...

To be fair, I wanna say one does not need to be some top-end chef of a three Michelin star restaurant to be proud of one's work.

The question is whether or not that pride is well-placed. And this is what really ties into his Gordon Ramsay remark. Ramsay has (or had?) a show called Hell's Kitchen. Almost every single kitchen he visited had people who thought they were doing good work, but the quality was generally pretty bad and the standards would have got them in trouble with the health department. While anybody can be "proud of one's work," that doesn't necessarily mean that one is doing great work. Even the place that was boiling and microwaving burgers on Hell's Kitchen had some people who complimented the food (whereas even many of the kitchen staff thought it was a terrible practice)

And praise in general often isn't legitimate. People are social animals, when in conversation they'll praise things more than they actually mean it (especially when put on the spot).

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Zeus posted...

While anybody can be "proud of one's work," that doesn't necessarily mean that one is doing great work.

Fair point. Reminds me of a coworker who is experienced but also cocky. On more than several occasions he would blame clients for mistakes that he should have caught.

Zeus posted...

And praise in general often isn't legitimate. People are social animals, when in conversation they'll praise things more than they actually mean it.

This reminds me of the talent show contestants where family and friends say they are great but when reviewed by professionals, they are less so.

Zeus posted...

(especially when put on the spot).

Regarding food, I have a high tolerance for bad food so unless something is really badly made (i.e. too much seasoning, burnt, uncooked, etc.) I probably will just say the food is good if asked by a waiter. Something can be a little dry and I will be fine with it.

In all my times of eating at a restaurant, only once did someone in my group questioned their dish. Someone at a table worked as a cook and said the mushrooms in his plate was not fresh. The actual cook/chef of the restaurant came to our table to assure the person the mushrooms are not canned mushrooms. Rest of us at the table just silently kept eating while looking away.

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shadowsword87 posted...

What? Dude's proud of his work, let him be proud without being a dick about it.

I see a difference in been proud of ones work and pretending to be something you're not in a narcissistic way.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Their hate just makes me stronger but I still feel very sorry for them. Harboring that much negativity is unhealthy.

I feel nothing towards you.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

I have a ton of training.

i think they mean at an accredited cooking institution, not under the head chef at wingstop, ok?

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shadowsword87 posted...

Oh, I do have a cooking question for you.

The "burger sauce" stuff that restaurants make and then everyone talks about how great it is. It's just mayo+stuff generally. What's a good initial thing for me to make at home, and then I can then adjust for myself later? I'll probably add a pinch of MSG in it, but, I'm not sure what else to add.

I've never made burger sauce but mayo and relish maybe.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Their hate just makes me stronger but I still feel very sorry for them. Harboring that much negativity is unhealthy.

You're a sith?

shadowsword87 posted...

Oh, I do have a cooking question for you.

The "burger sauce" stuff that restaurants make and then everyone talks about how great it is. It's just mayo+stuff generally. What's a good initial thing for me to make at home, and then I can then adjust for myself later? I'll probably add a pinch of MSG in it, but, I'm not sure what else to add.

You're not going to find that kind of sauce at an actual burger restaurant. That's just fast food stuff.

InfestedAdam posted...

Fair point. Reminds me of a coworker who is experienced but also cocky. On more than several occasions he would blame clients for mistakes that he should have caught.

This reminds me of the talent show contestants where family and friends say they are great but when reviewed by professionals, they are less so.

Regarding food, I have a high tolerance for bad food so unless something is really badly made (i.e. too much seasoning, burnt, uncooked, etc.) I probably will just say the food is good if asked by a waiter. Something can be a little dry and I will be fine with it.

In all my times of eating at a restaurant, only once did someone in my group questioned their dish. Someone at a table worked as a cook and said the mushrooms in his plate was not fresh. The actual cook/chef of the restaurant came to our table to assure the person the mushrooms are not canned mushrooms. Rest of us at the table just silently kept eating while looking away.

Canned mushrooms have a distinct color and flavor.
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