Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 329: There's No Debate

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The weird thing is that I don't think the Government can really sell it's assets can it if it wanted to?

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Corrik7 posted...

The weird thing is that I don't think the Government can really sell it's assets can it if it wanted to?

Not necessarily, but thats not how this works when it comes to literal worth of nations.

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red13n posted...

The financial position of the United States includes assets of at least $269.6 trillion (1576% of GDP) and debts of $145.8 trillion (852% of GDP) to produce a net worth of at least $123.8 trillion (723% of GDP)[a] as of Q1 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_position_of_the_United_States

That's the country, not the government.

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Crossfiyah posted...

Lmao Ulti is exactly the type of person that article depicts as being a creepy aggressive stalker too.

Yeah its definitely both concerning and unsurprising that that happened.

Though to add to all this its worth noting that the reason for her and others bans to the UK was because she was there to incite terrorism. That is what these far right online personalities are - terror recruiters for profit.

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Fuck Perdue.

https://twitter.com/ossoff/status/1317231042089111552?s=19

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That's such a dumb way to mispronounce Kamala.

Like...yeah, sure, there are people who've only seen her name in writing who pronounce it "Camel-a" (putting the stress on the wrong vowel). That's an understandable mistake, cause English puts vowel stresses on syllables that most languages do not.

But adding syllables doesn't make any sense. It's a three syllable name, same number of syllables as Jessica.

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red13n posted...

$100000 and no debt is richer than 1 billion in debt.

If you're a billion in debt, you'll have more than a hundred grand in assets after you declare bankruptcy, i guarantee it

Bankruptcy law is a thing for a reason

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https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1317238975707385857

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Can't decide what's funnier. People acting like anything really bad is in there or people acting like it is Russian misinformation. Or people acting like it is Russian misinformation in one breath while saying how it shows Biden in a good light in the other.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/debdrens/status/1317238975707385857

Coming one day after Rudy's daughter dissavows him and tells everyone to vote Biden.

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Apparently a federal judge is taking the stance that, since Trump has announced over Twitter that he has authorized declassification of all Russia investigation related material, the Mueller report and suchlike should be promptly released to the public, unredacted. In response, non-Trump spokespersons for the Trump administration are arguing that things the President says don't necessarily represent the intentions of the President.

To be clear, layers of separation between "Trump tweets everything that comes into his head" and "actual policy decisions are made" seem highly desirable. Indeed, I seem to recall a time when the President declared via Twitter that transgendered persons were unwelcome in the military, and Matthis refused to treat those tweets alone as official presidential directives, which I think was the right thing to do. This is still another darkly amusing reminder of how unqualified Trump is for the position the Electoral College chose him for. Would be funnier if I wasn't part of the public he's supposed to be serving, of course.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/politics/trump-russia-declassification-lawsuit/index.html
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social media was a mistake on every level

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-is-mayra-joli-nodding-woman-behind-trump-at-town-hall/ar-BB1a5W2r

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You know in an election that Reagan won 49 out of 50 states, and when the only state that Mondale won was his home state of Minnesota by less than 4,000 votes and by .18%.... Mondale still won DC by 73%.

Holy crap is DC just a democrat bastion.

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https://twitter.com/AndrewFeinberg/status/1317297826632769537

lmao again

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So I just received this email:


I did not request this, and was planning on voting in person.

Should I be concerned? Does this request mean I cant vote in person anymore?

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Is the address actually yours?

You should look up Florida's rules to confirm, but in CA at least you can still vote in person if you surrender your mail-in ballot at the polling place when you go to vote (and if you don't have your mail-in to surrender you can cast a provisional ballot).

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You should probably take them up on calling your local elections office

Yeah its my address.

Maaaan, this is such a pain in the ass.

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Is it just me, or is the purported October Surprise not gaining as much traction as the one in 2016 did?

If the latter not surprised. People have far more to worry about than e-mails now. President SimCity will be down.

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Labour have won a landslide in New Zealand. First majority for any party since they switched to a mixed proportional system. Some good news!

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Corrik7 posted...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/who-is-mayra-joli-nodding-woman-behind-trump-at-town-hall/ar-BB1a5W2r

i hate that you could see coming from a mile away that someone was going to write an article about that woman.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i hate that you could see coming from a mile away that someone was going to write an article about that woman.

Liberals were demanding her removed from tv during the show

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LinkMarioSamus posted...

Is it just me, or is the purported October Surprise not gaining as much traction as the one in 2016 did?

If the latter not surprised. People have far more to worry about than e-mails now. President SimCity will be down.

Media is squashing it.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

So I just received this email:


I did not request this, and was planning on voting in person.

Should I be concerned? Does this request mean I cant vote in person anymore?

You can still vote in person as long as you don't turn in the ballot. I just read an article that nearly 20% of all mail in ballots requested are being denied because they are duplicate requests. Apparently a lot of people requested a mail in ballot during the primaries by checking a box and didn't realize it. So they already requested one.

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Corrik7 posted...

Liberals were demanding her removed from tv during the show

really? that's so dumb lol.

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

really? that's so dumb lol.

Yeah. Said she was there to sublimally make you agree or some shit.

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Corrik7 posted...

Media is squashing it.

Probably because it's a dumb thing passed around by a bunch of super right wing people.

You really think Rudy Guiliani has any credibility in 2020?

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The credibility of the info is extremely low and there are identically zero people whose top election priority is Hunter Biden

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So apparently there was a poll that had Doug Jones up by 1
I don't believe that's where the race is at all, but maybe he can avoid being beaten by 10 points?

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IIRC that was a Jones internal poll so... not really lol.

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xp1337 posted...

IIRC that was a Jones internal poll so... not really lol.

I was under the impression that the bias in internal polls was just that they were more likely to be publicly released if they favored the candidate. It wouldn't really make sense to purposefully bias an individual poll itself since the primary purpose is to inform the candidate themselves of the state of the race.

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You should always doubt partisan polls.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I was under the impression that the bias in internal polls was just that they were more likely to be publicly released if they favored the candidate. It wouldn't really make sense to purposefully bias an individual poll itself since the primary purpose is to inform the candidate themselves of the state of the race.

Right, but I'm just saying it's exceedingly likely they released an outlier because... that's typically what you do when you release internals.

Oh, but yeah, maybe he can avoid a double-digit loss but just... that internal isn't really a factor in it at all.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Should I be concerned? Does this request mean I cant vote in person anymore?

You should contact your local elections office.

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xp1337 posted...

Right, but I'm just saying it's exceedingly likely they released an outlier because... that's typically what you do when you release internals.

Oh, but yeah, maybe he can avoid a double-digit loss but just... that internal isn't really a factor in it at all.

Well all I'm saying is that if the true state of the race is like Tuberville +13 or something you'd be pretty unlikely to get any poll to end up with Jones +1. So maybe the real state of the race is, say, Tuberville +8, and Jones would release a Jones +1 outlier but wouldn't have released an equivalent outlier of Tuberville +17.

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That's fair.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317460179223498753

Fight! Fight! Fight!

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Also apparently Harris County in Texas is getting a ton of early voting right now (I think they're getting 100k people a day), which is a good sign for Democrats in Texas. Like even if they fail to win the state but cut down the margin of victory into less than 3 percentage points, it's gonna be a romp country wide.

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TheRock1525 posted...

Also apparently Harris County in Texas is getting a ton of early voting right now (I think they're getting 100k people a day), which is a good sign for Democrats in Texas. Like even if they fail to win the state but cut down the margin of victory into less than 3 percentage points, it's gonna be a romp country wide.

Dallas County has also had record breaking turnout, but only to the tune of 50-60k/day (Which is still great considering Dallas is just over half the population according to what I can find), and we're on something like 15% registered voter turnout already according to the county judge

(Also obligatory fuck Houston but this is a really, really good thing coming out of there)

Also checking into it a bit, Travis County (Austin) is also setting turnout records. Tarrant County (Ft Worth) didn't on the first day, but has made up for it since and is slightly ahead of 2016 record turnout. Tarrant used to be the largest reliably red county in the country, but Beto was able to help flip it in 2018. I can't find information from today or yesterday on Bexar County (San Antonio), but I did find articles from Tuesday saying they were on pace for record turnout too.

If Trump loses the election we can officially say his emphasis on campaigning over actually governing was his downfall.

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Making a sweeping statement like that which tries to simplify a set of extremely complicated circumstances is certainly on brand, I'll give you that much

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It's what got him elected in the first place, so not really.

He was just much worse at it this year thanks to the pandemic. No covid and I think he wins this election too.

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https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1317480957763592192?s=21

The complete lack of self-awareness could fill a black hole
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new Alabama resident here: doug jones is gonna lose by a lot. people here really don't like democrats.

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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1317262449469509632?s=21

Another good reason to vote Biden
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TheRock1525 posted...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1317460179223498753

Fight! Fight! Fight!

Isn't Sasse up for reelection? Is there any chance this hurts him? Enough Republicans vote for Trump but refuse to vote for Sasse?

I can't find any polling which makes me think Sasse is winning handily.

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Looks like Sasse is like +30 so lol never mind

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/donaldjtrumpjr/status/1317480957763592192?s=21

The complete lack of self-awareness could fill a black hole

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FFDragon posted...

It's what got him elected in the first place, so not really.

He was just much worse at it this year thanks to the pandemic. No covid and I think he wins this election too.

First off, Trump didn't have a country to run when he first campaigned to be President. Second, while I agree that without the pandemic Trump would be more likely to win this election, the fact is that controversies over his leadership have been mounting all throughout his presidency and, well, the idea is that when you're the President, you are head of state and are supposed to, I dunno, LEAD. All the way Trump seemed like he only cared about what would get him re-elected and this pandemic made it official. Plus the race riots would probably happen this year even without the pandemic. All Trump did beforehand was merely preside over a booming economy that he arguably wasn't even responsible for in the first place. The mark of a great leader is how well they respond in a crisis, not how well things get under their rule, and Trump completely and utterly failed that test and might pay dearly for it.

Also, this pandemic was caused by the interconnectedness of modern society (which I'm not arguing is a bad thing, more that it just comes with consequences), so the idea of imagining an alternate reality without it is kind of insulting. Things will not magically be back to normal afterwards, since that normal is what caused the pandemic in the first place.

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