Board 8 > How does one break their parents' addiction to Fox News?

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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/20 8:35:11 AM
#101:


Steiner posted...
also amused at it being an extha thing considering extha's political leanings but ok

what do you mean? extha has been an alt-right trump supporter for years now.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/20 8:38:03 AM
#102:


Dels posted...
extha or not, a lot of people see any form of collective ganging up on as "see, the left is so judgmental". let's say some hypothetical fox news viewer sees this thread, they would agree with extha's post probably.

"you shouldn't collectively disagree with colliding because a hypothetical fox news viewer might see this topic and be reaffirmed in their stupid beliefs about the left"? that's the argument you're making? seriously?

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Dels
10/12/20 8:44:50 AM
#103:


uhhhhh. yes, that's the argument i'm makin, i think.. in relation to the thread's point of "how do you de-radicalize someone", and in line with my understanding of why fox news viewers are the way they are, i believe it is accurate to say that part of what helps them fall into the fox news hole is that they view behaviour from "the left" which they view as ganging up on, bullying, irrationally dismissing other PoVs, etc. i'm not saying don't disagree with anyone ever, but i am saying that if you want to understand why they feel the way they do (which is the first step to being able to change it), this is one (minor) example of it.
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Steiner
10/12/20 8:47:10 AM
#104:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
what do you mean? extha has been an alt-right trump supporter for years now.

no, more accurately, extha has not been an alt-right trump supporter for years now

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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/20 8:47:59 AM
#105:


Dels posted...
uhhhhh. yes, that's the argument i'm makin, i think.. in relation to the thread's point of "how do you de-radicalize someone", and in line with my understanding of why fox news viewers are the way they are, i believe it is accurate to say that part of what helps them fall into the fox news hole is that they view behaviour from "the left" which they view as ganging up on, bullying, irrationally dismissing other PoVs, etc. i'm not saying don't disagree with anyone ever, but i am saying that if you want to understand why they feel the way they do (which is the first step to being able to change it), this is one (minor) example of it.

how do you know this approach actually works, though? have you convinced many die hard fox viewers that they're wrong?

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Dels
10/12/20 8:50:05 AM
#106:


to be clear, i agree with you that people shouldn't, like, walk on eggshells all the time because "oh no, how will some irrational right-wing people interpret what i'm doing", that doesn't sound like a solution to me either, nor do i think it's reasonable for people to do that. to some extent, yes, it's on them to not just assume that every person on "the other side" is some bully/cultist as well. i guess my point was moreso to say "here's an example of why they think this way"
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Dels
10/12/20 8:51:11 AM
#107:


Mr Lasastryke posted...


how do you know this approach actually works, though? have you convinced many die hard fox viewers that they're wrong?

nope! i said it was all theoretical. i have no idea if i'm right or not. i'm pretty sure that certain people's approaches definitely don't work, but i don't know if mine does.
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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/20 8:51:45 AM
#108:


Steiner posted...
no, more accurately, extha has not been an alt-right trump supporter for years now

oh ok. i haven't kept up with the way extha's political views have changed.

anyway, the reason this "has become an extha thing" is because dels was clearly referring to extha's post and i was responding to dels.

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ChaosTonyV4
10/12/20 1:07:15 PM
#109:


ExTha was literally never an alt right Trump supporter. He was a Bernie fan who wanted Trump to win in 2016 because itd be funny

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BadTopicIsBad
10/12/20 1:22:47 PM
#110:


ExThaNemesis posted...
really? Watching y'all respond to colliding suggests otherwise lmao

Mr Lasastryke posted...
i wouldn't expect a different response from you

Steiner posted...
why has this become an extha thing

also amused at it being an extha thing considering extha's political leanings but ok


Mr Lasastryke posted...
what do you mean? extha has been an alt-right trump supporter for years now.


Steiner posted...
no, more accurately, extha has not been an alt-right trump supporter for years now


Mr Lasastryke posted...
oh ok. i haven't kept up with the way extha's political views have changed.

anyway, the reason this "has become an extha thing" is because dels was clearly referring to extha's post and i was responding to dels.

So essentially Extha comments on it being a bad look for how people are treating colliding
Must be because he's an alt right trumper
Yet Extha isn't alt right, or even right leaning
Oh ok, nvm then.

Dels posted...
extha or not, a lot of people see any form of collective ganging up on as "see, the left is so judgmental".

The example above is the exact kind of thing I see from people on the left all the time. Someone disagrees with you so they must be alt right. I'm sure there are people on both sides who do these kind of things, but it's a bad look either way.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/12/20 1:43:21 PM
#111:


BadTopicIsBad posted...
The example above is the exact kind of thing I see from people on the left all the time. Someone disagrees with you so they must be alt right.

no, the reason i thought extha was alt-right was because i've had plenty of political debates with him where he said alt-right things.

but apparently he stopped being alt-right years ago. good for him! his post in this topic was still dumb, though.

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HashtagSEP
10/12/20 1:44:12 PM
#112:


Posting on an alt is also a bad look

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BadTopicIsBad
10/12/20 1:47:36 PM
#113:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
no, the reason i thought extha was alt-right was because i've had plenty of political debates with him where he said alt-right things.

but apparently he stopped being alt-right years ago. good for him! his post in this topic was still dumb, though.

A regular person would perceive you to be hostile and forcing your beliefs onto others based on this topic, so I don't think he's wrong.

HashtagSEP posted...
Posting on an alt is also a bad look

Fair, can't really deny that. It's obvious why I am though.

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foolm0r0n
10/14/20 8:58:26 AM
#114:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
ExTha was literally never an alt right Trump supporter. He was a Bernie fan who wanted Trump to win in 2016 because itd be funny
He was totally alt-right before Trump though. It's not surprising he jumped on a different bandwagon with Bernie after that. The core of alt-righters has always been bandwagoning. That's what Trumpism is too. Something about Trump lost Extha though.

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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/20 9:04:11 AM
#115:


yeah, extha being a "bernie fan" is like scott adams saying he'll vote for biden for 5 minutes (before immediately running back to trump). i don't believe for a second that extha has ever seriously been into bernie.

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Jakyl25
10/14/20 11:28:23 AM
#116:


foolm0r0n posted...

He was totally alt-right before Trump though. It's not surprising he jumped on a different bandwagon with Bernie after that. The core of alt-righters has always been bandwagoning. That's what Trumpism is too. Something about Trump lost Extha though.


Too much beta male energy from Trump

True alphas can smell when someones a tryhard
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Jakyl25
10/14/20 11:34:31 AM
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LordoftheMorons
10/14/20 11:37:48 AM
#118:


Jakyl25 posted...
Anyway, one way to break them from Fox News might be to show them all the Trump tweets slamming Fox News

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1254520889212837890?s=21

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1315979849916461056?s=21

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1249093268920467457?s=21

There are more
I dont think getting your parents to drop Fox for OANN would exactly be an upgrade!

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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/20 11:44:05 AM
#119:


Jakyl25 posted...
Anyway, one way to break them from Fox News might be to show them all the Trump tweets slamming Fox News

yeah, the only way people who religiously watch fox are going to stop watching is if their trump love outclasses their fox love.


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Jakyl25
10/14/20 11:44:44 AM
#120:


Hey, sometimes you have to infest the town with gorillas to cure your snake problem
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Mr Lasastryke
10/14/20 11:45:36 AM
#121:


also, jakyl didn't link to the one where trump said fox is "worse than CNN." probably his most savage attack on fox!

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KamikazePotato
10/14/20 11:49:11 AM
#122:


Trump's attacks on Fox News always crack me up because Fox always bring him back and fellate him on air regardless. It's like an abusive relationship, which I suppose is par for the course for Trump

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foolm0r0n
10/14/20 7:15:59 PM
#123:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
yeah, extha being a "bernie fan" is like scott adams saying he'll vote for biden for 5 minutes (before immediately running back to trump). i don't believe for a second that extha has ever seriously been into bernie.
I do. The bernie bro concept isn't fake, even though it is overblown.

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red sox 777
10/14/20 7:22:38 PM
#124:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
also, jakyl didn't link to the one where trump said fox is "worse than CNN." probably his most savage attack on fox!

That was unfair. Fox isn't worse than CNN. DJT should retract the statement.

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UltimaterializerX
10/17/20 7:49:58 PM
#125:


Easy. Introduce them to One America News Network. Fox has been trash for 20 years now outside of like 2 shows.

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The Utility Man
10/17/20 7:53:42 PM
#126:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Easy. Introduce them to One America News Network. Fox has been trash for 20 years now outside of like 2 shows.

I imagine that many if not most people who dislike Fox News don't like OANN either.

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LordoftheMorons
10/17/20 7:57:18 PM
#127:


For anyone who is mercifully unaware, OANN straight up pushes conspiracy theories

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Mr Lasastryke
10/17/20 8:12:04 PM
#128:


lol of course ulti is praising OANN after trump tweeted about them

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Paratroopa1
10/17/20 8:20:00 PM
#129:


time to lock this topic
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foolm0r0n
10/18/20 10:01:40 AM
#130:


Look at my first post
foolm0r0n posted...
You can only replace it with another addiction. Qanon and such is effective. If they're secretly racist then something overtly racist should be attractive.


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