Poll of the Day > Donald Trump is spreading COVID: Part 2

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GunslingerGunsl
10/07/20 7:58:30 PM
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OhhhJa
10/07/20 8:00:15 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
I bet you still post pepes.
Never have. I'm a several tier meme god. Yours was a basic meme template with a simple political timeline with nothing innovative. Only funny to never trumpers who find any anti trump meme funny.

2/10 meme rating
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Jen0125
10/07/20 11:35:06 PM
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Sarcasthma
10/07/20 11:52:44 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
8/10 meme rating

perfect meme

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likehelly
10/07/20 11:56:01 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
I'm a several tier meme god.
unfortunately, you've never been properly judged, and seeing as how i'm the meme god judge, i have yet to see any proof from you that would qualify you for this title


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Wanded
10/08/20 12:02:19 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
/r/neoliberal best memes.
sigh...of course you're on that sub...

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Cacciato
10/08/20 12:52:14 AM
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Wanded posted...
sigh...of course you're on that sub...
Glad youre back, Nas
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Wanded
10/08/20 12:56:16 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Glad youre back, Nas
what's nas

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/08/20 2:08:02 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Lmao.

RCtheWSBC posted...
His Twitter is poppin, it's ridiculous lol
Its all those steroids. Hes ragin.

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adjl
10/08/20 8:17:48 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
I responded to this already.

Post 216 bud

Oh hey look at that. I didn't see a direct quote and I generally don't pay enough attention to post numbers to have made the association right away.

OhhhJa posted...
Life isn't without risk. Any reasonable person isn't gonna lock themselves away forever based on a tiny statistical chance they could die. If I did that I'd never leave the house.

So you're not only dodging the question (it's a simple yes or no: Would you play?), you're also misrepresenting the issue. Nobody's saying it's reasonable to lock yourself away forever. Everybody with half a brain, however, is saying that unnecessarily putting people at risk is bad.

Quite simply, Trump could do his entire job from the hospital. He does not need to be paraded around in a limo. He does not need to be back in the White House. The tiny handful of duties that he would need to be physically present for can be transferred to Pence because protocols already exist for dealing with presidents needing hospitalization. That means whatever risk he's imposing on everyone else in the White House - however remote (and when it comes to death, 0.5% is actually quite high) - is unnecessary, and motivated purely by his narcissistic compulsion to pretend he's not sick.

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OhhhJa
10/08/20 10:41:43 AM
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adjl posted...
So you're not only dodging the question (it's a simple yes or no: Would you play?)
Its a dumb comparison. I expect better from you tbh. You could tell me I have 1000 chances to roll a 6 on a 6 sided die or I die and I wouldn't play despite having pretty much 100% chance. It's an unnecessary risk. Living your life is necessary though and I probably stand the chance to die in a car crash or a random act of violence almost as much as I do from covid statistically, if not more. Life goes on. People have to work to live. Locking yourself away and feeding off unemployment is a privilege and that wont last forever. If we kill businesses in the process, we may have more people die in the process of trying to save lives.

There's a relevant C.S. Lewis quote:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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Phantom_Nook
10/08/20 11:33:36 AM
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https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518

Tl;Dr: I can't win a fair election, so arrest my opponent for something! Anything!
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adjl
10/08/20 12:51:16 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Living your life is necessary though and I probably stand the chance to die in a car crash or a random act of violence almost as much as I do from covid statistically, if not more.
adjl posted...
you were quite happy to chime in and say "that's not really analogous because you aren't factoring in the fact that you probably won't be exposed" (though also avoiding giving an answer to the actual question), relying on that logic to continue disapproving of precautions.

Well, it's time to break out that analogy again, only this time you can't hide behind vague "you probably won't be exposed" defenses. Every person working anywhere close to Trump right now is being forced to play that game.

We're not talking about your everyday life. We're talking about Trump insisting on going into the White House instead of remaining isolated in a hospital and doing all of his duties from there/delegating what can't be done there to Pence. We're talking about Trump demanding that he be paraded around in front of his supporters, all but guaranteeing that the security staff involved will be infected. The odds of being infected during everyday life are irrelevant here (though would be high enough without precautions that using current infection rates to disparage the precautions that have kept them so low is terribly silly).

OhhhJa posted...
You could tell me I have 1000 chances to roll a 6 on a 6 sided die or I die and I wouldn't play despite having pretty much 100% chance. It's an unnecessary risk.

Which is precisely the point, as elaborated on in the part of the post you cropped out. Covid's death (or even serious illness) rate is low enough to be an acceptable risk for necessary activities. It's high enough, however, that taking unnecessary risks should be avoided, which is exactly the basis for every suggested precaution, as well as for saying that Trump should stay isolated in hospital until he's no longer contagious.

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BlackScythe0
10/08/20 12:54:49 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-calls-ag-barr-indict-joe-biden-26-days-until-election-1537518

Tl;Dr: I can't win a fair election, so arrest my opponent for something! Anything!

In a way it would be amusing, if the trumpsters think the staged riots the police and alt-right are doing is bad wait until they actually see people get pissed off.
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RCtheWSBC
10/08/20 2:05:54 PM
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Head of White House security office tests positive for coronavirus:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-10-07/white-house-security-official-contracted-covid-19-in-september

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FrndNhbrHdCEman
10/08/20 2:10:57 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
In a way it would be amusing, if the trumpsters think the staged riots the police and alt-right are doing is bad wait until they actually see people get pissed off.
Theyll still excuse it. Theyre so arrogant at this point the blinders are on.

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Jen0125
10/08/20 3:28:47 PM
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papercup
10/08/20 3:30:46 PM
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Wait he actually tried to blame gold star families on his infection? Is he trying to piss off obsolutely everyone before the election?

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Jen0125
10/08/20 3:31:12 PM
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papercup posted...
Wait he actually tried to blame gold star families on his infection? Is he trying to piss off obsolutely everyone before the election?

He likes the families of service members who don't die in frivolous wars

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streamofthesky
10/08/20 3:39:43 PM
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papercup posted...
Wait he actually tried to blame gold star families on his infection? Is he trying to piss off obsolutely everyone before the election?
lol, this isn't the first time he's shit on gold star families
No one cared back then, don't count on the conservative kool aid drinkers to care now

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-frederica-wilson-gold-star-la-david-johnson-2017-10#monday-october-16-1

https://www.npr.org/2016/08/01/488213964/gop-criticism-mounts-as-trump-continues-attacks-on-khan-family
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Judgmenl
10/08/20 5:01:37 PM
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Anything to dodge the fact that the ACB Rose Garden event was a super spreader event.

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papercup
10/08/20 5:41:26 PM
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/520191-pelosi-were-going-to-be-talking-about-25th-amendment

Pelosi says she's going to invoke the 25th amendment. No way Pence and McConnell play ball.

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Jen0125
10/08/20 7:31:45 PM
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-wasnt-getting-tested-for-covid-every-day-before-he-caught-it-nyt

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likehelly
10/08/20 7:42:01 PM
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papercup posted...
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/520191-pelosi-were-going-to-be-talking-about-25th-amendment

Pelosi says she's going to invoke the 25th amendment. No way Pence and McConnell play ball.
tbh i could see pence being for it, just not publicly


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Blightzkrieg
10/08/20 8:11:56 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-wasnt-getting-tested-for-covid-every-day-before-he-caught-it-nyt
Given how uncomfortable the tests supposedly are (I've yet to take one) I always found it extremely difficult to believe that Trump was willing to get tested daily (or even weekly).

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Jen0125
10/08/20 8:15:14 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Given how uncomfortable the tests supposedly are (I've yet to take one) I always found it extremely difficult to believe that Trump was willing to get tested daily (or even weekly).

I did one and it's not that bad. It feels like they're trying to poke your brain with the q tip and it slightly burns for like 15 mins after

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ClarkDuke
10/08/20 8:17:25 PM
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likehelly posted...
tbh i could see pence being for it, just not publicly
i'm with you on this, ok?

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Jen0125
10/08/20 8:18:21 PM
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10/08/20 8:43:10 PM
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Jen0125
10/08/20 8:43:30 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
this pic infuriates me, ok?

I'm sorry you had to go through that, okay?

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ClarkDuke
10/08/20 8:46:49 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
I'm sorry you had to go through that, okay?
thank you, i would like to believe i'm getting better, day by day, ok?

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adjl
10/09/20 8:47:58 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Given how uncomfortable the tests supposedly are (I've yet to take one) I always found it extremely difficult to believe that Trump was willing to get tested daily (or even weekly).

It's not that bad, provided the nurse isn't too rough with the swab (which they aren't supposed to be, but not everyone can be good at their job). My girlfriend had some lingering pain and bleeding, but she's also got a persistent sinus infection that I'm guessing contributed to that. The wait to be processed and whatnot was more unpleasant than the test itself, and presumably the president wouldn't have to wait in line.

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Far-Queue
10/09/20 9:07:00 AM
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wont-waste-my-time-on-virtual-debate-biden-to-participate-in-abc-town-hall/ar-BB19P3kF

^ Believe he won the timeslot that the debate was supposed to air in.

Power move

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Sarcasthma
10/09/20 9:40:53 AM
#334:


adjl posted...
We're not talking about your everyday life. We're talking about Trump insisting on going into the White House instead of remaining isolated in a hospital and doing all of his duties from there/delegating what can't be done there to Pence. We're talking about Trump demanding that he be paraded around in front of his supporters, all but guaranteeing that the security staff involved will be infected. The odds of being infected during everyday life are irrelevant here (though would be high enough without precautions that using current infection rates to disparage the precautions that have kept them so low is terribly silly).

Which is precisely the point, as elaborated on in the part of the post you cropped out. Covid's death (or even serious illness) rate is low enough to be an acceptable risk for necessary activities. It's high enough, however, that taking unnecessary risks should be avoided, which is exactly the basis for every suggested precaution, as well as for saying that Trump should stay isolated in hospital until he's no longer contagious.
@OhhhJa

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Jen0125
10/09/20 9:44:29 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wont-waste-my-time-on-virtual-debate-biden-to-participate-in-abc-town-hall/ar-BB19P3kF

^ Believe he won the timeslot that the debate was supposed to air in.

Power move

Anyone who goes to a Trump rally knowing he's positive for covid deserves whatever they get

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streamofthesky
10/09/20 9:55:53 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Anyone who goes to a Trump rally knowing he's positive for covid deserves whatever they get
What about all the people who unwittingly cross paths with those stupid idiots at the grocery store, though?
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OhhhJa
10/09/20 10:04:27 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
@OhhhJa
He's the president. He has obligations. He can't sit in a hospital for 2 weeks
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Far-Queue
10/09/20 10:12:28 AM
#338:


GOP hypocrisy knows no bounds

McConnell avoids White House, citing laxity on masks, COVID-19 precautions

https://reut.rs/2SAF7x4

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streamofthesky
10/09/20 10:18:08 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
GOP hypocrisy knows no bounds
...If Dems stopped wearing masks in the Senate, could that finally be the impetus to fucking wait till next session to hold the supreme court hearings?
Throw in some dry coughs for show.

Mitch and the Republicans apparently only care about coronavirus safety when it personally impacts them. Use that knowledge. Maybe not yet. Wait till after the election and do it as a last ditch effort to stop them from lame ducking her into the court before the will of the people removes their asses from office.
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adjl
10/09/20 10:23:58 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
He's the president. He has obligations. He can't sit in a hospital for 2 weeks

He has a phone and Internet access. That's all you need to do any office job, president included. The protocol is already constitutionally established for the VP to take over any necessary duties that he can't handle from there, meaning Trump leaving the hospital (and the ensuing risk to the lives of those around him) is completely unnecessary. Yes, he absolutely can sit in a hospital for two weeks. Even if he couldn't, the possibility that he might need to has been an undeniable threat for nearly a year now and there would be absolutely no excuse for his administration failing to make the necessary preparations for that possibility.

Furthermore, the notion that parading around in a limo is a "presidential obligation" is so blatantly ludicrous that I'm amazed that even you had the gall to suggest it.

Further still, the man's gone on plenty of two-week golf vacations since taking office, and the country didn't implode without him sitting in the big chair. Don't be so melodramatic.

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Sarcasthma
10/09/20 11:04:16 AM
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Should I tag Ohhhja again?

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Jen0125
10/09/20 11:16:36 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
What about all the people who unwittingly cross paths with those stupid idiots at the grocery store, though?

Sadly, we live in a society with these idiots and they put us all at risk.

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Jen0125
10/09/20 11:17:16 AM
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OhhhJa posted...
He's the president. He has obligations. He can't sit in a hospital for 2 weeks

Yes, he can? We have an entire constitutional amendment for situations like that.

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Shadowbird_RH
10/09/20 11:26:22 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
Sadly, we live in a society with these idiots and they put us all at risk.
If only encountering an anti-masker could warrant breaking their jaws on account of the parallel they share with bio-terrorists.

"Good day sir or madman, I see you're wearing your mask improperly or not at all. Might I suggest you rectify this error for the sake of yourself and those around you, such that this pandemic, which has long overstayed its welcome, is not further lengthened by your imbecilic non-compliance?"

[REFUSAL]

"SMAAAAAASH!!!!!"

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Jen0125
10/09/20 11:30:34 AM
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Shadowbird_RH posted...
If only encountering an anti-masker could warrant breaking their jaws on account of the parallel they share with bio-terrorists.

"Good day sir or madman, I see you're wearing your mask improperly or not at all. Might I suggest you rectify this error for the sake of yourself and those around you, such that this pandemic, which has long overstayed its welcome, is not further lengthened by your imbecilic non-compliance?"

[REFUSAL]

"SMAAAAAASH!!!!!"

It seems it's more likely that the person asking someone to put a mask on is the one who gets assaulted based on videos being posted online.

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Shadowbird_RH
10/09/20 11:40:42 AM
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True enough. I saw on the news that the first reported fatality in a mask dispute occurred between a 60yo and an 80yo recently. I'd like to say that the anti-maskers are more stupid and unhinged and more likely to respond violently, but the positions of the two weren't mentioned. That said, my earlier post was mostly satire.
Mostly.

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Far-Queue
10/09/20 11:58:19 AM
#347:


Jen0125 posted...
It seems it's more likely that the person asking someone to put a mask on is the one who gets assaulted based on videos being posted online.
"B-b-but the left is so violent and riots and antifa and MAGA!!" - dumbass Trump supporters

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OhhhJa
10/09/20 12:03:13 PM
#348:


Far-Queue posted...
"B-b-but the left is so violent and riots and antifa and MAGA!!" - dumbass Trump supporters
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Far-Queue
10/09/20 12:08:47 PM
#349:


Post some

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Wanded
10/09/20 12:12:55 PM
#350:


Far-Queue posted...
Post some
do you not believe that it is happening?

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