Board 8 > Coronavirus Topic 12 - Wishing all speedy recoveries this affects

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colliding posted...

Sure enough two weeks to the day of my mom's nursing home allowing in-person visits again we've got a positive test.

I want to throttle these idiots.

edit: also, on the very same day I found this out, the college where I teach announced they weren't going to do re-entry testing for Spring semester. so let's just all give up basically.

Nursing homes have always been dangerous. A friend of my mother that lives there got corona recently, and she narrowly avoided getting it herself (somehow, after spending hours with her)
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Sorry to hear about your uncle. If you need anyone to talk to, we are here for you. = (

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

9.2 million + cases yesterday, Holy ****.

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Yes, we set a new daily case record today after setting a new record yesterday.

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-nw-nyt-covid-murder-rate-20201029-aocplhpcancyhdslf6zhn7egwu-story.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/10/22/us/covid-rural-us.html

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https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

All 3 links good reading.

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Walking-Alive posted...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

9.2 million + cases yesterday, Holy ****.

Texas number 1 whooo!
/s

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https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/27/europe/belgium-coronavirus-hospitals-intl/index.html

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There was a report going around about a variant of the virus that was noticed in northern Spain in June and was spread around since then to the point of making up the majority of cases in many European nations. It's unknown at the time how exactly this variant has affected the virus but it would make sense considering its dominance that it was yet another change that made it more contagious. This being one on top of the established change that resulted in what was known as the D614G variant that had previously made it more infective.

A change like that could also certainly factor into just how rapidly it has been spreading. Like I was saying about exponential growth, having the reproduction factor modify from 1.2 to 1.5 on average with the control measures in place is still going to have an enormous effect.

EDIT: It is a preprint, though.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.25.20219063v1#disqus_thread

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Thanks everyone.

So far the biggest change has just been that I now get engaged when I see people downplay COVID deaths.

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People said a new variant popped up in our country too, due to the mink-pelt industry... woooo.

Also more lockdownish measures, which I am glad to see honestly.
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Maniac64 posted...

Thanks everyone.

So far the biggest change has just been that I now get engaged when I see people downplay COVID deaths.

Imagine people saying COVID is a hoax

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https://www.bt.dk/politik/alle-mink-skal-slaas-ihjel-muteret-coronavirus-fra-mink-er-en-trussel-for

Translation plucked from the reddit thread:

Mutated coronavirus from mink is a threat to humans

The situation regarding corona infection among mink has now developed to a critical stage in North Jutland.
According to B.T.'s information, a mutated coronavirus migrated from mink to humans and has since spread strongly among the citizens of Vensyssel in North Jutland.
On Tuesday, the government received a note from the Statens Serum Institut, which has exposed the mutated coronavirus to antibodies. The result, according to SSI, was deeply troubling because the mutated coronavirus did not respond well to the antibodies.
Thus, there is a risk that a possible vaccine against covid-19 will not have the desired effect if the mutated virus from mink spreads further among humans.
That is why Mette Frederiksen has convened a press conference on Wednesday at 4 pm, where she herself will participate virtually.
B.T. learns that there are new restrictions for humans on the way in northern Jutland to stop the spread of the coronavirus from mink.
The other party leaders were summoned to a briefing on Wednesday afternoon.

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That's all we need.

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It's something I've been concerned about for a while. SARS-CoV-2 likely came about from a viral recombination that resulted from coinfection from two coronaviruses in a reservoir animal which then transmitted to humans because it linked up with the ACE2 enzymes that is profoundly expressed in human airways. It's always been possible for that to happen again with further animal interaction. It's unfortunately a kind of rapid jump that occurs outside of the standard genetic drift that comes with the usual mutations.

Of course the specifics are unknown. It could be just about anything at this point, more or less deadly, more or less infectious, etc.

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B.T.'s

Kojima truly is god

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Yeah those same minks are in our country and some of them are out in the wild goddamnit.
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Looks like the United States broke 100k today...

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Is it bad that all I can think about when I hear mink is One Piece?

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can't believe fur is literally murder now.

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I know the Coronavirus subreddit tends to be filled with doomers, but it's interesting just how many have assumed apocalyptic implications from this. Frankly anywhere people interact commonly with mustelid animals, and potentially other families of animal, there exists a chance for this to occur. It's probably happened a few times already, it's just that Denmark has a robust ability to monitor for it.

And again, nothing is known about the severity of the form discovered from the minks but obviously it makes sense to not wait to find out.

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Esuriat posted...

https://www.bt.dk/politik/alle-mink-skal-slaas-ihjel-muteret-coronavirus-fra-mink-er-en-trussel-for

Translation plucked from the reddit thread:

Mutated coronavirus from mink is a threat to humans

The day finally came where a Danish newspaper article was linked here and you pick BT...

It's not a very good translation, but I suppose the essence is there.

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https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20201105-more-paris-shops-ordered-closed-at-night-as-covid-19-crisis-worsens

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ctesjbuvf posted...

The day finally came where a Danish newspaper article was linked here and you pick BT...

It's not a very good translation, but I suppose the essence is there.

Heh, figures 'Random redditor' would use a questionable source. Sorry if they're like the Danish equivalent of Sweden's Aftonbladet, or worse

Fortunately at this point several more news groups are reporting on it, though the SSI has not released much more information that I've seen.

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Well, no worries, how would you know.

Status is that all mink are to be killed and they've closed seven municipalities in Nothern Jutland as much as they reasonably can for about a month. They're mass testing the population and expect to be finished in about 14 days.

I don't mind translating updates if anyone cares. I think it's enough under control that it's limited how much you hear about internationally.

I live in the capital area, which is pretty much the opposite side of country, so it has not changed anything for me personally.

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https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1324785351643324419

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https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-usa-records-idUKKBN27N06G

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Extremely good news!

https://twitter.com/bylenasun/status/1325767652372074496

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Nice! Sign me up


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LordoftheMorons posted...

Extremely good news!

https://twitter.com/bylenasun/status/1325767652372074496

Can already hear the Trump conspiracy theorists

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Pfizer CEO: 50 million doses available this year, 1.3 billion doses in 2021 (two doses required per person)

it'll still be well into next year when it'll be widely available, but it's a good start

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Yeah, for a while now I haven't had my hopes on anything earlier than March or April for when we'll truly approach a good level of availability with a vaccine. Kinda funny how close those initial 12-18 month estimates were.

All the same, it's some of the best news we've seen at any point.

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Also, meanwhile, apparently my county today reported 1 in 500 of its residents have contracted COVID. Huh.

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still in the camp of 'not beta testing this shit' but good to know plenty others will!


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eh I took mystery immunizations all the time in college and got paid for it.

Plus the dozens I have to have to be able to perform my job

gimme all the vaccinations

make me immune to everything

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I wonder if Indonesia has these paid tests

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https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wireStory/report-children-lose-basic-skills-virus-restrictions-74125367

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The CDC has now acknowledged that masks help wearers too, not just others:

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1326323760237076489

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...wait.
they still hadn't said that?

swear to fucking god this is why nobody trust the cdc. -_-

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Yeah, I'm not sure how much of it's being hamstrung by the Trump admin versus requiring some very high standard of proof.

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Wanglicious posted...

swear to fucking god this is why nobody trust the cdc. -_-

This is not the reason "nobody" trusts the CDC.

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https://mobile.twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1326316470213746691

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https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/russia-says-its-sputnik-v-covid-19-vaccine-is-92-effective

Damn Russians always one upping us

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Saw an article from CNN about probability of people complying with another stay-at-home lockdown:

"The results show a political divide in those willing to stay home. About 40% of Republicans polled said they were willing to comply with a stay-at-home order, down from 74% in the spring.
By contrast, 87% of Democrats said they would likely comply, a slight drop from 91% in March and April."

The Republican number makes sense, as a lot of rural and small town red counties don't take COVID seriously and refuse to mask up or social distance. They are paying the price for that right now as hospitalizations are at capacity or over in a lot of rural areas. I'm guessing the 40% comes from suburban republicans or the wealthy.

The Democratic number confuses me though. Do they not poll anyone from the inner cities? I live in a major city, and I can tell you the urban community, which is highly Democratic, do not practice social distancing at all and mask wearing only if necessary. I understand this can be more of a poverty issue or what have you. Regardless of the reasoning, this a huge block of the democratic base and I don't understand how this poll came up with such high numbers unless they purposely didn't poll those people.


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guffguy89 posted...

Saw an article from CNN about probability of people complying with another stay-at-home lockdown:

"The results show a political divide in those willing to stay home. About 40% of Republicans polled said they were willing to comply with a stay-at-home order, down from 74% in the spring.
By contrast, 87% of Democrats said they would likely comply, a slight drop from 91% in March and April."

The Republican number makes sense, as a lot of rural and small town red counties don't take COVID seriously and refuse to mask up or social distance. They are paying the price for that right now as hospitalizations are at capacity or over in a lot of rural areas. I'm guessing the 40% comes from suburban republicans or the wealthy.

The Democratic number confuses me though. Do they not poll anyone from the inner cities? I live in a major city, and I can tell you the urban community, which is highly Democratic, do not practice social distancing at all and mask wearing only if necessary. I understand this can be more of a poverty issue or what have you. Regardless of the reasoning, this a huge block of the democratic base and I don't understand how this poll came up with such high numbers unless they purposely didn't poll those people.

It's what they say to a poll, not what they will do.

Whats the independent number?

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yeah that's in no way accurate. i think this election has done a good job in saying polling is definitely skewed and there's a significant gap between what people say and what people do.

especially for masks. 'oh yeah we'll comply, but i'm still gonna take it off to eat, drink, smoke, talk on the phone, or when i'm hanging out with friends.' like there's many, many parts of NYC that just plain ain't wearing 'em that much, including areas that used to be hot spots (i don't know current ones because i don't go there). other areas do wear usually but still have the above exceptions.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/12/covid-social-gatherings/

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Corrik7 posted...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/11/12/covid-social-gatherings/

I think people really underestimate how much risk there is (especially at a societal level) of these small gatherings, especially if they're indoors/unmasked and if the groups people are meeting aren't static.

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I got invited to a local friendsgiving (me, two friends, their kids) in lieu of traditional thanksgiving. asked them today if it was still on and now the guest list has grown to include one of their mothers, a brother, and another two friends that I don't know.

how do I politely decline without scolding them

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