Board 8 > KCF cries and has some heart attacks as he plays Until Dawn: A Playthrough Topic

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I know that it was considered a disappointment, but I'm kind of interested in Man of Medan now since it was recently added to Game Pass.
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#TheresAFreakingGhostAfterUs

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The best part about you ranking Ashley dead last is that you did it without getting the scene which makes most of the people that hate her...well, hate her!

Are you planning a replay or can we talk openly?

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If I replay this, it would likely be years down the line, so feel free to speak openly.
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Also yeah, Mike starts out looking like he's just going to be a Dumb Jock trope through and through, then he gets actual character development and shit. It's neat

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RaidenGarai posted...

#TheresAFreakingGhostAfterUs

Best

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Mike gets the only death scene in the game where someone goes out like a badass (and it's the only death scene he can get).

Then there's Chris being locked outside of the house by Ashley if he doesn't shoot himself earlier, lol

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Incidentally Man of Medan feels like this game if it didn't have as good a budget. It isn't *bad*, it just isn't as good

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DeathChicken posted...

Incidentally Man of Medan feels like this game if it didn't have as good a budget. It isn't *bad*, it just isn't as good

Picked that up recently in a bundle thing to play during Halloween month. Seemed decent and I liked Until Dawn. They also have another one coming out a few days before Halloween I think.

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DeathChicken posted...

Incidentally Man of Medan feels like this game

Well it is the same developers, which is why I brought it up.
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FFDragon posted...

Best

My favorite line in the game

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Man of Medan is worth playing but it isn't as good.

Looking forward to Little Hope later this month!

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RaidenGarai posted...

My favorite line in the game

I don't remember that line, but based on mentioning a ghost, I'm going to assume it was from Ashley in the basement with Chris.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Mike gets the only death scene in the game where someone goes out like a badass (and it's the only death scene he can get).

I'm going to assume it is the one where he intentionally sets a room on fire, but I feel like this can't be true as I saw multiple totems depicting him burning to death or getting thrashed by Wendigos.
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KCF0107 posted...

I don't remember that line, but based on mentioning a ghost, I'm going to assume it was from Ashley in the basement with Chris.

Yep! I should watch a clip of that scene again

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Funnily enough that ghost also shows up behind Ashley during the seance, but no one draws attention to it. Which...I find kind of confusing since Josh supposedly rigged the ghost, but at the seance he's the only one in a position to even *see* the ghost

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Would I be correct in that the character trait meters were meaningless in the game? They didn't affect character choices or even simply dialogue? I guess they were just there then as some sort of indication of how a player's choices affected a character internally?
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KCF0107 posted...

Would I be correct in that the character trait meters were meaningless in the game? They didn't affect character choices or even simply dialogue? I guess they were just there then as some sort of indication of how a player's choices affected a character internally?

Yeah. They really didn't matter as far as I found.

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They only matter in getting semi-nude Jessica, or the way some characters banter with each other or talk to themselves. The meters don't change the narrative of the game or the decision making as a whole.

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Mike can only die in the final scene, but he can die one of several ways:
-Sam flips the switch too early and ignites the place before everyone is out safely
-Sam dies and Mike ignites the place with the lighter
-Sam dies and Mike dies to a Wendigo.

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Great game! I thought Mike's character development was really good, so I definitely agree with your #1 ranking.

I fucked up quite a bit in my blind playthrough, I only managed to save Jess and Emily as well as getting Wendigo-Josh. I did feel a couple of my deaths were BS though: with Chris outside the lodge it seemed like I had only like a one second window for one of the QTEs before he got insta-killed, and then with Sam when you have to hold the controller still to prevent the wendigo spotting you, turns out it is hyper-sensitive to movement. If Jess survives the fall in the mine she can die in a similar situation later on but I was able to do that no problem so I don't know why it failed on Sam. After that I got tilted which led to Mike blowing up the house. No excuses for the other deaths though, just bad decision making on my part (never investigate a deathtrap alone Ashley!)

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So if you lose each person at their earliest possible death, I THINK this is how it would go:

1. Jessica (dead on arrival at the elevator shaft)
2. Matt (knocked off the cliff by the deer)
3. Emily (something in the mine; I can't remember if a Wendigo can get her before the grinder, but it's one of the two)
4. Chris (killed by the Wendigo right after the Flamethrower Guy)
5. Ashley (looking for Jess in the trapdoor)
6. Josh (if you haven't found enough clues for him to recognize Hannah, she kills him)
7. Sam (move when you're not supposed to move)
8. Mike (either get him ripped apart by a Wendigo or torch the cabin while you're still inside)

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Wait Matt can be killed by a freaking deer? That's amazing.

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Yeah, if you're somehow dumb enough to go after them as Matt, the deer will smack him right off the edge

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I ended up doing some collectibles cleanup since a guide showed that I only needed to partially replay three chapters. Anyway, the totems have this video of past events, and it answered two questions that I had. The Hunter went after Wendigos because his grandfather did, and the Wendigo from the beginning was killed by The Hunter and presumably took over Hannah's body later.
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Also all of those cages were because the Hunter was aware that if you kill a Wendigo, it'll just possess someone else. Nothing saying you can't keep them locked up forever and avoid that problem.

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DeathChicken posted...

Yeah, if you're somehow dumb enough to go after them as Matt, the deer will smack him right off the edge

This is why I say Matt's deaths are easy to avoid with common sense. Why would you switch to an aggressive approach with the deer when the gentle one was working just fine?

The death people were saying in spoilers was bullshit and hard to avoid was Matt's second death. If, as Matt, you continue to try and save Emily as the tower is collapsing, he'll land in a different part of the mine where he'll be immediately grabbed by a Wendigo. The only way to survive this attack is to have the flare gun AND have a shot left in it, meaning Matt and Emily's relationship has to be just high enough for Emily to give the gun to Matt, and just low enough that Matt doesn't fire off a distress signal like Emily wants. But to me I thought it was obvious that there was no way he was going to get to Emily AND get them both to safety before the tower collapsed, and if Matt jumped to safety at least he could still go look for help.

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Of course immediately running off as Matt leads to the ending where Emily goes superbitch and wishes for his death to the cops. There are layers and layers to how Emily will behave in this game

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It's impossible to have everyone survive AND have Emily still be friends with everyone, and it all has to do with that damn gun.

In order to maintain his relationship with her, Matt can't jump to safety, which means he needs the gun to survive the Wendigo attack. But if Emily doesn't have the gun, she'll always get bitten, and her relationship with Mike and Ashley will become irreparably 0 when they talk about shooting her.

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Oh, did he stab Josh with the scissors? That leads to my favorite bit in the game during the ending

Cop: So you stabbed your friend with scissors.

Ashley: I stabbed the Psycho with scissors.

Cop: Who was your friend.

Ashley: I DIDN'T KNOW THAT AT THE TIME

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Ashley gets a lot of hate, but she has some really good lines.

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It's hard not to hate Ashley if you get the 'murder Chris in bold blood' thing. She also demands that Emily leave the safe room and doesn't oppose Mike shooting her. Otherwise she's just there to freak out and add tension to scenes, so she's not going to be many people's favorite character.

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It doesn't surprise me that people hate her, I just like those lines. It would be the same if it was from anybody else.

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Trying to get Emily killed is only a plus

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KamikazePotato posted...

It's hard not to hate Ashley if you get the 'murder Chris in bold blood' thing.

On the one hand, yes this looks pretty bad on her. On the other, you only get this if Chris tries to shoot her earlier, so it's like "how dare she hesitate to save the guy who tried to murder her an hour ago."

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Underleveled posted...

On the one hand, yes this looks pretty bad on her. On the other, you only get this if Chris tries to shoot her earlier, so it's like "how dare she hesitate to save the guy who tried to murder her an hour ago."

It has been awhile but didn't she tell him to do it during the scene?

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She...does both. If Chris points the gun at himself, she gives a speech about how she should be the one to get shot. If he points the gun at her, she flips out and tells him to stop

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It's been a while since I've seen that scene, but I don't remember it as her hesitating. I remember it as a very cold deliberate eff off and die stare.

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Okay I did go back and rewatch the scene and... yeah her look is actually worse than I thought. Still, if it came to that, you weren't really playing a good Chris.

And, you know, Mike doesn't get nearly as much flack for fucking shooting Emily in the face (maybe it's because that one is left entirely up to the player but even having the option for him to shoot his ex in the face doesn't exactly scream "great guy").

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As someone who has grown up with zombie culture, I absolutely do not fault Mike for defaulting to bit = will turn.

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I don't blame him for having that mindset, but almost anybody else would at least wait for the first sign of turning before pulling the trigger.

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Also to be fair things had gone to total shit with legit supernatural monsters out there with everyone panicking not knowing how things worked. Besides Emily was a bitch anyway. Yeah I could see the waiting for signs thing but again they were panicking and with supernatural stuff in play who knows how things worked. The Ashley situation seems way worse

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Apparently Man of Medan has a mode where 5 people can each play a character and it tells you when to pass off the controller. This would be really fun to do with Until Dawn; you'd just have to pay attention to whose turn it is. Poor Josh wouldn't have much to do until the end though. If I were hosting I'd probably have the Josh player double as Beth at the beginning.

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Same thing for the next game that comes out in like a week, Little Hope.

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Underleveled posted...

Apparently Man of Medan has a mode where 5 people can each play a character and it tells you when to pass off the controller. This would be really fun to do with Until Dawn; you'd just have to pay attention to whose turn it is. Poor Josh wouldn't have much to do until the end though. If I were hosting I'd probably have the Josh player double as Beth at the beginning.

Yep but be aware that not all characters have equal time in Man of Medan. Like not even close and it starts immediately.

Achievement hunter did a couple videos in it and it became a joke how a couple of people didnt get to play for whole chapters/videos.

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Maniac64 posted...

Yep but be aware that not all characters have equal time in Man of Medan. Like not even close and it starts immediately.

Achievement hunter did a couple videos in it and it became a joke how a couple of people didnt get to play for whole chapters/videos.

Imagine being Conrad and successfully escaping at the beginning of the game.

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My biggest complaint about Man of Medan is certain collectibles being locked behind 2 player mode. But not local 2 player mode, has to be online 2 player.

Eff that

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Maniac64 posted...

Yep but be aware that not all characters have equal time in Man of Medan. Like not even close and it starts immediately.

Honestly it's that way in Until Dawn as well. Sam/Mike/Chris have a disproportionate amount of time compared to the others. And poor Jess is done after Chapter 4 as long as Matt stays alive.

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TotallyNotMI posted...

Imagine being Conrad and successfully escaping at the beginning of the game.

It's what happened in the AH video lol

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Maniac64 posted...

It's what happened in the AH video lol

Hah!

Poor guy.

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