Current Events > bro in canada an 80 is an A-

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what the actual fuck

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70s is average tho, so 80 being A- still makes sense

Also at my uni A+ was not a grade lol- well it was a grade, but it had the same gpa value as A

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Nah it's a 4-

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80 was a B back in my day, did they lower it?

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At my university, a pass (D+) is often between 50% and 33%
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teepan95 posted...

At my university, a pass (D+) is often between 50% and 33%

That usually just to pass a class.
You still need above 60% (2.0) gpa to graduate

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thebatz posted...

teepan95 posted...

At my university, a pass (D+) is often between 50% and 33%

That usually just to pass a class.
You still need above 60% (2.0) gpa to graduate

Not over here, you don't
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Specifically an 86 in grade school. 73-85 is a B, and 67-72 is a C+

could be misremembering tho

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Crono99 posted...

When I was in law school, whatever the class average was was a B-. So if the class average is 75, 75 is a B-. If the class average was very high, like in the 90s or something, then just a few percentage points could be the difference between B- and A+ (4.3 gpa). You had to have at least a B- average to get advance to the next year

My most recent exam had 4% between grades. 100-96% was A+; 95-91% was A and so on

51% was a pass
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Crono99 posted...

When I was in law school, whatever the class average was was a B-. So if the class average is 75, 75 is a B-. If the class average was very high, like in the 90s or something, then just a few percentage points could be the difference between B- and A+ (4.3 gpa). You had to have at least a B- average to get advance to the next year

The wonders of The Curve.

I've seen some of the raw scores for my exams, and they were fucking rough.

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IMO, this is the proper way to categorize Letter / Grade scores.

No Grading of a curve should be allowed.

Just straight up % scores with correlation to your Letter grade performance.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

IMO, this is the proper way to categorize Letter / Grade scores.

No Grading of a curve should be allowed.

Just straight up % scores with correlation to your Letter grade performance.

The actual percentages are different, but this is how it is in Germany. The overwhelming majority of my exams were not curved
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I'm sorry, but the Canadian Letter Grade Association to actual % brackets is a joke IMO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_grading_in_Canada

They expect so little out of their students, all in the name of "Feeling Good" that you did well.

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teepan95 posted...

The actual percentages are different, but this is how it is in Germany. The overwhelming majority of my exams were not curved

When I was in Public School, we didn't have this "Lenient" of a Grade to % association.
And NOTHING was curved.

The Canadian way is SOOO DISAPPOINTING.





This is a REAL / FAIR Grade to % ranking system.


Not something designed to make you feel good at the end of the day.

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Any thoughts on the "Canadian" grading system?
@Sayoria
@CalypsoDoom
@DarkRoast
@Cleo_II
@Vyrulisse
@Aeriis

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Crono99 posted...

When I was in law school, whatever the class average was was a B-. So if the class average is 75, 75 is a B-. If the class average was very high, like in the 90s or something, then just a few percentage points could be the difference between B- and A+ (4.3 gpa). You had to have at least a B- average to get advance to the next year

Fucking A.

She was able to finish her law degree and pass the bar:

http://www.abbybroyles.com

She was a reporter and is running for office.
It would be awesome for her to be Oklahoma's first woman Senator.
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yeah, I've talked to some international people who think we grade people way too easily.

I always liked it, I got to feel like an A student when I wasn't really. Felt on the same level as my friends who were A+ students and I couldn't really keep up with.

KamenRiderBlade posted...

When I was in Public School, we didn't have this "Lenient" of a Grade to % association.
And NOTHING was curved.

The Canadian way is SOOO DISAPPOINTING.





This is a REAL / FAIR Grade to % ranking system.


Not something designed to make you feel good at the end of the day.

so uh

why is it REAL/FAIR

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If you hadn't figured it out by his tagging all the CEgals

he ain't being serious
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none of the posts ITT make any sense except for teepan's

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Choco posted...

none of the posts ITT make any sense except for teepan's

I luv u 2 bby
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The idea of F + and F- amuses me

"You failed but you failed really well!"
"You not only failed but you SUPER failed!"
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I went to school in canada (elementary through high school, and an undergrad degree) and never once received a letter grade.

one prof told me I was on track to get an "A" in his class. but there was no indication of that on the transcript. just the percentage grade

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Grading on a curve is the best

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Garioshi posted...

why is it REAL/FAIR

Look at the Digit Range & Spacing between each + / _ / -
Outside of S-Class, E-Class, & F-Class which are special cases;
The + / _ / - ranges gives you a nice wide: 3 / 4 / 3 digit spread to allow you easily know exactly how well you did.

It's aligned along the traditional 10 digit to a letter grade range that most normal western grading systems follow, but the + / _ / - is wide enough so that you know you're in the approximate bottom / middle / upper of the Letter-Class at a instant glance.

The E-Class & F-Class spread let's you know how poorly you did because it's spread 10 digits apart.
But if you're doing that bad that you can't make it to S-Class, A-Class, B-Class, C-Class, or D-Class; then you need to work / study harder.

S-Class is designed to be special for students who can attain 100% or better.

It's designed to show you the fruits of your labor by not being easy to attain and assigned to every student.

UnfairRepresent posted...

The idea of F + and F- amuses me

"You failed but you failed really well!"
"You not only failed but you SUPER failed!"

At least you know exactly where you stand in terms of how bad you failed.
It's best to be honest.
Each E-Class & F-Class + / _ / - is a big 10-digit spread tier, so going past it to the regular: (S-Class, A-Class, B-Class, C-Class, or D-Class) is a HUGE accomplishment once you pull yourself out of that area.

teepan95 posted... he ain't being serious

I'm incredibly serious when it comes to Academic Studies and how well you place.
Those letter grades are supposed to have REAL meaning and is representative of your hard work / effort as a student.
It shouldn't be trivialized like the way the Canadian School Systems stack it.

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I remember when a C+ was in the 80s in grammar school

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

At least you know exactly where you stand in terms of how bad you failed.
It's best to be honest.
Each E-Class & F-Class + / _ / - is a big 10-digit spread tier, so going past it to the regular: (S-Class, A-Class, B-Class, C-Class, or D-Class) is a HUGE accomplishment once you pull yourself out of that area.

I mean, as someone who had this grading system, after like the 6th grade you almost always get like an actual percent , so regardless of if you get an A+ or a F- you also already know how well you did since you get a percent (or like a x/y mark so you can figure the percentage out yourself) and the actual grade mark is pretty informal.

Especially when you get out of elementary school, letter grades are basically supplementary.

Proto_Spark posted...

I mean, as someone who had this grading system, after like the 6th grade you almost always get like an actual percent , so regardless of if you get an A+ or a F- you also already know how well you did since you get a percent (or like a x/y mark so you can figure the percentage out yourself) and the actual grade mark is pretty informal.

Especially when you get out of elementary school, letter grades are basically supplementary.

My schools only showed Letter Grades, we never got to see the overall averages except when in class.

What stays on your long term record is the Letter Grade and it's numerical correlation to cumulative GPA.

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KamenRiderBlade posted...

My schools only showed Letter Grades, we never got to see the overall averages except when in class.

What stays on your long term record is the Letter Grade and it's numerical correlation to cumulative GPA.

that's weird, my schools stopped doing that by the 7th grade. My report cards all said that I got like a 77 instead of a B+, i kind of just assumed thats the norm here.

Proto_Spark posted...

that's weird, my schools stopped doing that by the 7th grade. My report cards all said that I got like a 77 instead of a B+, i kind of just assumed thats the norm here.

I'm more surprised they showed you percentages at all.

Every school level I've attended only showed Letter grades from Elementary all the way up to college.

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Wow. If you get a 69 at my university it doesn't count as passing for a core class towards your degree. You'd have to retake the class and get a C- or better next time. And you can still pass in Canada with a 50? Literally only get half the stuff correct? Yikes.


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nexigrams posted...

Wow. If you get a 69 at my university it doesn't count as passing for a core class towards your degree. You'd have to retake the class and get a C- or better next time. And you can still pass in Canada with a 50? Literally only get half the stuff correct? Yikes.

technically yes, although some classes do have higher standards (ie, won't give you the credit without a final grade of X or a 60 on the exam or something) but at my university, you also had to keep the whole average up above a 70, so you could **** up a class you hated or did poorly in and not need to retake it.

It wouldn't matter if you get 50s in all your courses, because sure you technically passed all of them, but you're still flunking out.

MedeaLysistrata posted...

70s is average tho, so 80 being A- still makes sense

Also at my uni A+ was not a grade lol- well it was a grade, but it had the same gpa value as A

70% was the lowest possible passing grade when I was in school and I still kept honor role most of the time.

southcoast09 posted...

70% was the lowest possible passing grade when I was in school and I still kept honor role most of the time.

ok

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Proto_Spark posted...

e whole average up above a 70, so you c

Ohh so then it's basically the same thing. You could technically "pass" with a 50, but you need your average to be at least 70, which is the same here. The only difference would be that you could scrape by with a 50 once in a while as long as you maintained your average, where I could not, and would have to retake the class.

So that's not really that different.

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isnt A- only in university

KamenRiderBlade posted...

Any thoughts on the "Canadian" grading system?
@Sayoria
@CalypsoDoom
@DarkRoast
@Cleo_II
@Vyrulisse
@Aeriis

I went to private school in QC, we didnt do letter grades and they never graded on a curve. Then I went to university and were known to be hard asses about letter grades. And my professors also never graded on a curve. We only got one who did and I remember the class being overly excited about it. Best prof ever.

Cleo_II posted...

I went to private school in QC, we didnt do letter grades and they never graded on a curve. Then I went to university and were known to be hard asses about letter grades. And my professors also never graded on a curve. We only got one who did and I remember the class being overly excited about it. Best prof ever.

That's way different from my experience in the US.

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that was my grading scale all the way through high school. except the "e" is a "f".