Poll of the Day > Woman says KAREN is the new RACIST SLUR for WHITE PEOPLE!! Is she right???

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mrduckbear
09/27/20 9:57:55 PM
#1:


Do you think Karen is the new racist word for white people?


A rhino looking heifer was having none of it at a local Walmart and was recording the incident when they refused her entry for not wearing a mask...

Until a black man started recording her outrageous behaviour and called her a "Karen" which then prompted her to say Karen is a racist slur for white people and then rags on him for calling her a racist term as he laughs it off.

She then threatens to call police cause she felt he "threatened" her and then ragged them for black lives matter.

Do you think Karen should the be new offensive term that should be banned on here?

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LinkPizza
09/27/20 10:08:43 PM
#2:


Black women can also be Karens. They even have male Karens. Karen is for everybody!
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Zeus
09/27/20 10:10:26 PM
#3:


Considering that it's almost exclusively been applied to white women and defined as such, it's explicitly a racist slur. You could argue the relative power of racist slurs, but the racist component is there regardless.

LinkPizza posted...
Black women can also be Karens. They even have male Karens. Karen is for everybody!

When it's a male Karen, they say "male Karen" instead of Karen and it still has the racial component. Otherwise white people have been called the n-word, but that doesn't change the fact it's predominantly used against blacks.

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LinkPizza
09/27/20 10:14:33 PM
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Zeus posted...
Considering that it's almost exclusively been applied to white women, it's explicitly a racist slur.

Ive seen some black Karen. It could be that there are more white female Karens...

Zeus posted...
When it's a male Karen, they say "male Karen" instead of Karen and it still has the racial component. Otherwise white people have been called the n-word, but that doesn't change the fact it's predominantly used against blacks.

I dont Karen was suppose to be a racial thing. And for the years I knew about it, it wasnt. If people think that, thats fine. But the original Karen doesnt really need to be a race thing. Its more of an attitude thing. Maybe white women embody that attitude more, but there are black Karens...
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WhiskeyDisk
09/27/20 10:18:06 PM
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We need to consult our PoC overlords before making any decisions. If they say Karen isn't a slur, it's A-OK.

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Hop103
09/27/20 10:26:25 PM
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No, because there have been Karens that aren't white, it's just a simple insult geared at bad, irrationally terrified people.
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Clench281
09/27/20 10:34:12 PM
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Sorry, unless Karen is being commonly used as a pejorative term for any random white woman regardless of behavior, you don't really have an argument here.

Karen is used to describe a person with a specific set of antisocial behaviors. I wouldn't say the requirement of being a white woman is a steadfast rule, as I've used and heard others use it across sex and racial lines.

In absence of those behaviors, Karen isn't used because it wouldn't make sense. Racial slurs are used to demean a person on account of their immutable quality, race. If the use of Karen changes such that people are using it to refer to any white woman, just to insult their being white or Woman, then the question can be reevaluated. Maybe at that point the Chris Rock argument might hold some water.

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papercup
09/27/20 10:35:44 PM
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If she doesn't want to be called a Karen then should stop acting like a fucking Karen.

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Metalsonic66
09/27/20 10:36:36 PM
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It's totally just as bad as the n-word, guys

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Entity13
09/27/20 10:39:47 PM
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Karen as a label is a judgment on the Karen's character, and not on their skin. Leave it to the self-same type of person who regularly acts with such characteristics to bitch and complain about being the wrong kind of special, about being called out and not being given preferred treatment, to try and call the label racist. Karen's gonna Karen.

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wwinterj25
09/27/20 10:44:04 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Black women can also be Karens. They even have male Karens. Karen is for everybody!
Sums it up. Clearly she doesn't understand what a "Karen" is.

Zeus posted...
it's explicitly a racist slur.

Zeus doesn't understand too.

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FourthDimension
09/27/20 11:20:21 PM
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It's arguably a sexist term, but to say it's racist is a huge stretch.
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IronBornCorps
09/27/20 11:21:14 PM
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These people want to be oppressed so bad.

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BB mofo
09/27/20 11:51:39 PM
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A male "Karen" is a "Brian":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEO_28VrJLQ

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Metalsonic66
09/28/20 12:03:15 AM
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I'd like to speak to your manager, please.

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DevilSummoner1
09/28/20 12:06:00 AM
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Do you think Karen is the new racist word for white people?

no

not even close

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FrostedCream
09/28/20 12:15:44 AM
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i find it funny how white people are offended by the name karen.....an actual name and still call blacks the n-word and find that okay.....its laughable.
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wwinterj25
09/28/20 12:57:43 AM
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FrostedCream posted...
i find it funny how white people are offended by the name karen.....an actual name and still call blacks the n-word and find that okay.....its laughable.
I find it laughable that you didn't actually read this story and you believe that folk are offended by this name and think it's ok to use the n word. I guess we all have had a good laugh.

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Collat
09/28/20 1:38:44 AM
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The only people that it should be offensive to is any reasonable person who happens to be named Karen.

Woman in that video should put a mask on just to avoid getting those drool stains on her sweater.
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MarioLinkNES
09/28/20 2:14:32 AM
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I would say it is borderline racist. At first I didn't think so, but it definitely has become at the very least a stereotype.

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Zareth
09/28/20 3:02:10 AM
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papercup posted...
If she doesn't want to be called a Karen then should stop acting like a fucking Karen.


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kind9
09/28/20 5:44:07 AM
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I never thought so, but maybe. Whatever it is it's a stupid and vague term.

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Collat
09/28/20 6:01:39 AM
#24:


MarioLinkNES posted...
I would say it is borderline racist. At first I didn't think so, but it definitely has become at the very least a stereotype.
It's 100% not racist. Most of the people using it aren't even POC.
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adjl
09/28/20 7:19:42 AM
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Collat posted...
The only people that it should be offensive to is any reasonable person who happens to be named Karen.

Pretty much. I feel a little bad for such people, as well as for any parents that named their kid Karen 2-3 years ago (presumably, the name's popularity has plummeted in the past year), but the term is not racist or misogynist in any way because it describes behaviour, not race or sex. That the stereotypical Karen is a white woman is a consequence of that being the largest demographic of Karens, not any inherent racist or sexist sentiment.

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LinkPizza
09/28/20 8:31:38 AM
#26:


adjl posted...
Pretty much. I feel a little bad for such people, as well as for any parents that named their kid Karen 2-3 years ago (presumably, the name's popularity has plummeted in the past year)

Dont worry. Canada is already on it...

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Runner_style
09/28/20 10:01:42 AM
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Considering anyone can be a Karen, no.

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Noop_Noop
09/28/20 10:08:03 AM
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Collat posted...
It's 100% not racist. Most of the people using it aren't even POC.

Most of the people using the n word these days are black so does that mean it's not racist?

The reality is, it's not a racial thing, it's a social thing. They WANT to call these lady's the 4 letter c word that I cant say on gamefaqs, but that's not ok to say in public here.

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Lokarin
09/28/20 10:10:22 AM
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Aussies been callin' Karens Sheilas for like 50 years

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argonautweakend
09/28/20 10:13:06 AM
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I honestly just think the Karen thing is played out. I can actually buy people calling it a slur to some degree, but there is not a ton of history behind it being used in a negative way until fairly recently. Though I have heard people say "black karen" or "male karen" once in a while so it isn't specifically used against white women, though of course the majority of the time it is used, it is.

I'm also over the term "boomer" even though this one is a little different. I just feel like terms get super overused I kinda stop caring.
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Kyuubi4269
09/28/20 10:17:46 AM
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argonautweakend posted...
I just feel like terms get super overused I kinda stop caring.

It's not overused, it's overcommon. Boomers and their subset Karens are waaaaay too common.
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Arishok
09/28/20 10:22:52 AM
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papercup posted...
If she doesn't want to be called a Karen then should stop acting like a fucking Karen.

Exactly!
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kind9
09/28/20 10:24:35 AM
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How is Karen a subset of Boomer? That would mean all Karens are Boomers. They're both just stupid internet slang words that everyone latches onto in order to be hip with the kids on twitter.

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blu
09/28/20 10:26:35 AM
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Karen has a stereotypical gender, race, haircut, and attitude. Wikipedia ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_(pejorative) ) does mention "As of 2020, the term was increasingly being used as a general-purpose term of disapproval for middle-aged white women."

adjl posted...
stereotypical Karen is a white woman is a consequence of that being the largest demographic of Karens

LinkPizza posted...
Maybe white women embody that attitude more,

Runner_style posted...
Considering anyone can be a Karen, no.


White women make up a much greater proportion of the US Karen population than those of other races. Structural racism exposes white women to distinct stressors causing them to be targeted by an unfair system, such as targeting a popular haircut style for middle aged white women.

papercup posted...
If she doesn't want to be called a Karen then should stop acting like a fucking Karen.

Or people can stop calling using a demeaning slur against her and then video taping her reaction to being called offensive terms.
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ChaoticKnuckles
09/28/20 10:28:40 AM
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Karen is a state of mind, not a race. Stop acting like an entitled piece of shit and people will stop calling you a Karen.

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BarneyBosco
09/28/20 10:39:34 AM
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If anything the black dude is the Karen. I mean what kind of asshole do you got to be to see someone peacefully complaining about a store policy and inject yourself into that situation for petty views. What a piece of shit lol.

In the end, even walmart agreed with her since they reversed the policy, which was stupid to begin with.

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Fierce_Deity_08
09/28/20 10:47:37 AM
#37:


BarneyBosco posted...
If anything the black dude is the Karen. I mean what kind of asshole do you got to be to see someone peacefully complaining about a store policy and inject yourself into that situation for petty views. What a piece of shit lol.

In the end, even walmart agreed with her since they reversed the policy, which was stupid to begin with.
Walmart was wrong to give into this bitch. Wear a fucking mask. Theyre not asking you do do anything difficult, unless you dont have a working brain like most people who refuse to wear one.

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BarneyBosco
09/28/20 10:53:37 AM
#38:


Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
Walmart was wrong to give into this bitch. Wear a fucking mask. Theyre not asking you do do anything difficult, unless you dont have a working brain like most people who refuse to wear one.

Only good little bitches wear masks. Like the clip of the two morons kissing each other with masks on. Mask demanders are pathetic. Take responsibility for your own safety. Trying to force others into your camp never ends well.

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Fierce_Deity_08
09/28/20 10:57:02 AM
#39:


BarneyBosco posted...
Only good little bitches wear masks. Like the clip of the two morons kissing each other with masks on. Mask demanders are pathetic. Take responsibility for your own safety. Trying to force others into your camp never ends well.
I wear a mask to keep my 73 year old mother with type 1 diabetes safe. Im not a selfish little pussy who cant handle wearing a mask to help protect others.

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kind9
09/28/20 10:59:07 AM
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"Take responsibility for your own safety." How about stop being a selfish prick crying "freedom" and just wear a fucking mask? The mask is primarily meant to protect others, not yourself.

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Lil_Bit83
09/28/20 11:12:31 AM
#41:


No. Its an insult for people who constantly act entitled, demanding, irrational and snotty. Now granted, we've all acted like that either when we were younger, or more immature, or sometimes when we've just been having a bad day. Also, they may or may not be members of the dreaded HOA.

Its about as racist as insults like brat, asshole, bitch, jerk etc.

I don't use the phrase. I think its dumb and overused.

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likehelly
09/28/20 11:26:08 AM
#42:


karen isn't a racial slur

karen is slang for

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SunWuKung420
09/28/20 11:58:28 AM
#43:


Hasn't many of the white Karens been openly racist when on one of their Karen-esque tirades?

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kind9
09/28/20 12:05:40 PM
#44:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Hasn't many of the white Karens been openly racist when on one of their Karen-esque tirades?
Of course.

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keyblader1985
09/28/20 12:20:41 PM
#45:


It's ridiculous that anyone thinks it is. The reason it's most frequently used to describe White women is because they are the ones that most frequently fit the description.

What else is racist? Chad? Kyle? Neckbeard?

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BlackScythe0
09/28/20 12:41:23 PM
#46:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Hasn't many of the white Karens been openly racist when on one of their Karen-esque tirades?

Yes, but people like Zeus are eager to say "See you're racist too!" even though it's not accurate.
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Entity13
09/28/20 12:49:18 PM
#47:


BlackScythe0 posted...
Yes, but people like Zeus are eager to say "See you're racist too!" even though it's not accurate.

Zeus is full of it.

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Black_Crusher
09/28/20 1:11:18 PM
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Sort of related, I've never been offended by "Cracker". I think it's funny.

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Collat
09/28/20 2:08:14 PM
#49:


Noop_Noop posted...
Most of the people using the n word these days are black so does that mean it's not racist?

That's not the same thing and you fucking know it.

Also false.

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BarneyBosco
09/28/20 9:13:33 PM
#50:


Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
I wear a mask to keep my 73 year old mother with type 1 diabetes safe. Im not a selfish little pussy who cant handle wearing a mask to help protect others.

@Fierce_Deity_08 You want me to wear a mask because you have a 73 year old granny? Sounds pretty selfish to me! A little accountability to her own safety isn't too much to ask is it? Maybe keep her locked away until a vaccine is available. If not, its her choice to go out into the scary world and risk getting the flu. Have fun trying to cancel my opinion!

Oh and calling people a pussy is misogynistic and problematic. Woman is strong now, have you been living under a rock? So sad.

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wwinterj25
09/28/20 10:47:56 PM
#51:


keyblader1985 posted...
What else is racist? Chad? Kyle? Neckbeard?


Give it time and these probably will be.


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