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Alpha218
09/27/20 12:34:26 PM
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https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/09/27/bars-owners-patrons-happy-with-phase-3-reopening-city-mayors-concerned/

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. On Fort Lauderdale Beach, those with months of quarantine-driven bar withdrawal showed up, showed off and toasted each other back to some semblance of normal life.
Im healthy, Im strong and I feel comfortable with all my friends, Dan Gibby, who was out enjoying his Saturday at the Elbo Room, said.
In an unexpected and surprising announcement on Friday, Gov. Ron DeSantis lifted all restrictions on restaurants and other businesses in Florida in a move to reopen the states economy despite the spread of the coronavirus.
With that green light, bars and clubs were allowed to reopen.
His three-page executive order prohibits local governments from capping capacity at anything less than 50%. Statewide, there will be no capacity restrictions. It also did away with any fines related to COVID-19. On Saturday, Florida reported 2,795 new cases of COVID-19, along with 14,022 resident deaths and 168 non-resident deaths from COVID-19.

Miamis Mayor Francis Suarez has more than a few concerns.
One of the things that concerns me the most is our mask mandate. Im really concerned that the cases are going to continue to spike and then we may have to go back to a situation that were working so hard to avoid.
He added that the governors order is confusing and risky.
Its not very clear as to what can and cant be done, Suarez said.
His counterpart in Fort Lauderdale also weighed in.
It left a lot of us wondering where do we go from here? Fort Lauderdale Mayor Dean Trantalis said. The governors order was so open ended that business owners really had no direction as to what to do.
Broward County issued a new executive order five hours after the governor, which states that bars still must comply with distancing requirements and capacity limitations. The order allows bars, pubs, nightclubs, adult entertainment establishments, banquet halls, breweries, cigar bars, and any other establishment that is licensed by the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulations to sell food and/or alcohol to operate, provided they are in compliance with Attachment 2 of the countys Emergency Order.

Just like restaurants, small groups I think thats what were intending for bars as well, Trantalis said.
Both mayors said to expect new regulations in the coming days.
Miami Beach Mayor Dan Gelber called the move by DeSantis political and unsafe in South Florida, which has had the highest concentration of the states COVID-19 cases.
I dont think anyone in Miami-Dade County knew this was coming, Gelber said. I think we were going in the right direction. The governor just wants to follow Trumps lead as much as possible.
In Davie, Gaffers Pub Owner Debbie Qualls said the small, family run business suffered financially through the pandemic.
Weve had to pay the rent, the electric, all the bills. If it was too much longer, we wouldnt be here, Qualls said.
The pub was closed for six months so reopening is what she calls a life saver.
Qualls said, however, that safety remains a priority.

Everybody is real careful in here, regular Gaffers bar patron Bob Vaughn said.
Trantalis hopes people continue to remain aware and stay safe.
It does no one any good bar owners, bar patrons, the community at large to not continue to respect the safety protocols.

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kingdrake2
09/27/20 12:41:01 PM
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they'll invite corona upon themselves. screwed we are.
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UnholyMudcrab
09/27/20 12:42:18 PM
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Charge DeSantis with reckless endangerment. Upgrade to negligent homicide when the inevitable happens.
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KiwiTerraRizing
09/27/20 12:43:10 PM
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This country is so stupid

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Ving_Rhames
09/27/20 12:45:57 PM
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Any state that opens to that extent should be restricted from travelling out of their state.

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/27/20 12:46:49 PM
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so another day of Florida being Florida... *sigh*
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buddhamonster
09/27/20 12:48:53 PM
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You know a great way to boost your economy?

Trigger another epicenter for the global pandemic that caused you to shut down in the first place!

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TheGoldenEel
09/27/20 12:51:14 PM
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The sad thing is most of these people wont die until after the election

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Patty_Fleur
09/27/20 12:52:57 PM
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Its been closed for some time. What's wrong eith them opening up?

Other things are open. Why do we single out bars? Im not trolling I actually want to know the reasons.

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Ving_Rhames
09/27/20 12:56:08 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Im not trolling

Shame, that.

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Patty_Fleur
09/27/20 12:57:05 PM
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Literally anytime I post something coronavirus related I get warned for 3 days. Thats why I specified.

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TheGoldenEel
09/27/20 12:57:20 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Its been closed for some time. What's wrong eith them opening up?

Other things are open. Why do we single out bars? Im not trolling I actually want to know the reasons.
Because extensive contact tracing has determined that bars are overwhelmingly the biggest spots where covid is spreading

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/08/18/902328016/how-bars-are-fueling-covid-19-outbreaks

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VonOrdelia
09/27/20 12:57:42 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anytime I post something coronavirus related I get warned for 3 days.
Probably because you're a denier

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BroodRyu
09/27/20 12:59:15 PM
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Its honestly to the point where I dont care anymore, and that sucks. We keep doing stupid things as a country and it all feels so helpless.
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monkmith
09/27/20 12:59:39 PM
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they want corona, doesn't matter if its beer or virus.

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hockeybub89
09/27/20 1:00:17 PM
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rodu_jr
09/27/20 1:00:40 PM
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The square peg doesn't fit in the round hole. Hmmm. Wait I know, I'll put the square peg in the round hole! Damn...
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Patty_Fleur
09/27/20 1:02:37 PM
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For those that want bars closed how long should they stay closed?

What happens to bar owners and employes should they stay closed?

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buddhamonster
09/27/20 1:02:59 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Its been closed for some time. What's wrong eith them opening up?

Other things are open. Why do we single out bars? Im not trolling I actually want to know the reasons.
The fact that you cant wear a mask while drinking and eating and the fact that people go to bars specifically to meet people and socialize (ie, not socially distancing).

Then add in the element of drunkenness, and you have a bunch of people acting dumb in a tight space with no masks or social distancing. Its basically everything every expert has been explicitly warning against for six months now.

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tigerslashII
09/27/20 1:03:28 PM
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About time.

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hockeybub89
09/27/20 1:04:51 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
For those that want bars closed how long should they stay closed?

What happens to bar owners and employes should they stay closed?
They should get money from the government

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MaverickXeo
09/27/20 1:05:44 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Its been closed for some time. What's wrong eith them opening up?

Other things are open. Why do we single out bars? Im not trolling I actually want to know the reasons.

Bars and other places where a person is inside with others for a long period are the worst place for spread. That said, I don't know WHY shopping is discouraged. Few (if any) infections have been tied to shopping.

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kyujo
09/27/20 1:07:54 PM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anytime I post something coronavirus related I get warned for 3 days.
Hop to it, mods

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kingdrake2
09/27/20 1:09:39 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
They should get money from the government


they did try to pass business support. but there's a 0.0001% chance any legislature will be passed up to the election.

it's the same reason we haven't gotten another stimulus.

can thank the republican party and mitch for that.
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Strider102
09/27/20 1:19:31 PM
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We'll be ok. I'm sure that herd immunity will kick in any time now.

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Arcanine2009
09/29/20 2:17:45 AM
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The governor opened the floodgates

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/florida-lifts-covid-19-restrictions/story?

Stay safe

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YellowMustard69
09/29/20 2:18:42 AM
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So is this governor killing his career by going against the wishes of the people?
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008Zulu
09/29/20 3:05:35 AM
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Florida's pathological need to one up new York is just embarrassing now.

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Northlane
09/29/20 3:09:43 AM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
The sad thing is most of these people wont die until after the election
LMFAO

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Eliza3
09/29/20 3:25:09 AM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
Literally anytime I post something coronavirus related I get warned for 3 days. Thats why I specified.

If you closed your account you wouldn't get warned anymore.

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Zack_Attackv1
09/29/20 3:28:02 AM
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MabusIncarnate
09/29/20 3:29:15 AM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
For those that want bars closed how long should they stay closed?

What happens to bar owners and employes should they stay closed?
What's worse in your brain, a few hundred bar owners lose their business, or a few thousand human beings lose their lives? Honest question.

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008Zulu
09/29/20 4:16:24 AM
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Patty_Fleur posted...
For those that want bars closed how long should they stay closed?

What happens to bar owners and employes should they stay closed?

Blame your government for not having an adequate safety net in place.

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Funkydog
09/29/20 5:06:29 AM
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That worked great for Britain. That's why we're not having lockdown restrictions and early closing times :)

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Unknown361
09/29/20 5:52:46 AM
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Just charge DeSantis after the election if Dems wins, he belongs in a jail cell with the inmates.

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MaverickXeo
09/29/20 3:44:55 PM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
What's worse in your brain, a few hundred bar owners lose their business, or a few thousand human beings lose their lives? Honest question.

To be fair, it's NOT just the bar owners. How many have staff that aren't working either?

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TheCodeisBosco
09/29/20 3:53:39 PM
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Is anyone actually surprised that Florida, of all states, is doing this?

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