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Making 32 heat attempts

after two attempts I can tell this is going to suck.

Maybe I need more companions first

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Hit the credits. I hope more stuff unlocks quickly, because I dunno if my interest will hold out for long if each new thing takes awhile.

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Anything in particular I should be aiming for after beating the game once? Should I try to do it with all six weapons before going for higher heat?
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i think there's a nice reward (more titans blood?) for beating it once with each weapon so id do that at least

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masterplum posted...

Making 32 heat attempts

after two attempts I can tell this is going to suck.

Maybe I need more companions first

Sisyphus' companion might help a lot. I think I would have beaten my 32 heat attempt if I had brought him instead of accidentally bringing Dusa's

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WazzupGenius00 posted...

Is that 30 minutes in-game time, or real time?

Real time, no idea what the game time is. And yeah I have noticed that stacking damage on one thing is good. Sometimes it's attack and sometimes it's special. Rarely it's cast but I did get something good with Artemis cast once. Certain enemies just take too long to kill, I need to get better against those.

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Finally finished my first run after about 20 attempts or so. Didnt think there was any way I would because my boobs early on were trash, but ended up getting the sword upgrade that heals you on hit and it was pretty hard to die until the end.

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man it took me like 3 times to read that to realize you meant boons

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you know, I could edit that, but maybe Ill just leave it

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My last 3 runs in a row with the bow I've been able to get to Styx. Twice to the final boss. Haven't had good boons though so I'm not doing enough damage to be comfortable. Skill-wise I am pretty solid on the 3rd boss now. Styx is still overly difficult though. I think I just need a good set of boons and I'll make it. Almost got my 3rd death defiance too.

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got past the first phase of final boss on 32 heat. the grand prize still eludes me..

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dante changed the game

went in with the rail, beat Theseus and got to Hades for the first time, came close but died at 20% on his second phase

went in with the fists and fuckin owned him

went in with the bow and fuckin owned him

im actually so good at this game wow guys

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Koala what are you thinking in terms of punishments? Wavering on my last 5 heat choices or so

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hahahahaha yeah realizing there's a tell for when you're getting shot is a literal gamechanger

i think the bone hydra has tells for all its stuff too, but i'm too lazy to learn them and instead facetank everything when his adds are out

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My 32 heat run was

2 Hard labor
2 Lasting consequences
2 Convenience fee
1 Jury summons
3 Extreme measures
2 Calisthenics program
2 Benefits package
Middle management
1 Underworld customs
1 Forced overtime
2 Damage control
2 Tight deadline

I came very close to beating Hades, but I'll probably try something different for my next attempt. Disabling part of the Mirror of Night is probably optimal, but I like rares/rerolling too damn much.

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1 Hard labor
2 Lasting consequences
1 Convenience fee
max Jury summons
max Extreme measures
max Calisthenics program
max Benefits package
Middle management
1 Routine Inspection
2 Damage control
1 Tight deadline

even 1 level of forced overtime really seems to throw me off so I tried to make a set without it. think i will take the 1 convenience fee and put it towards hard labor at least cause not being able to buy as much might have hurt me a bit (or another point in tighter deadline maybe and then I can take two points off lasting consequence and convenience...)

I also tried with the three death defiances instead of infinite, and if I had either found Patroclus to restore them all (because I stupidly lost them all by the time I reached Asterius/Theseus and still didnt die again until hades) or went with the infinite I might have actually won

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Oof, on a really strong 32 heat run in Elysian now but have to go back to work. Two chaos boons help

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Theseus down. 3+1 death defiance left and I didnt take 4 heat for Hades

got a damn good shot at this.

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(Ok kind of a lie. Got a death defiance from Athena and bought one for that low low price of 360 gold)

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Yeah just hope you don't run into the Rat boss and you seem golden!

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Good ol 56 minute clear time

also highest heat for spear is still 1

hilarious

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Got my first clear! 10th run I think? 35 mins which feels real slow
https://i.ibb.co/9YGgk9D/win.png

Got Flurry Shot early on and I knew combining Chain Shot with it was hella OP (it's how I got to 2nd phase of final boss before), so once I got it I knew I would win. Then just stacked as much damage as I could on it. Got some good Athena boons too.

Had 3 death defiance, used one mid-Elysium since a chaos boon blocked me from using Attack which was hilarious since I stacked it so hard. Had to fight the entire Asteroid miniboss without Attack. Melted him on the actual fight though. Beat the final boss with 20hp and 0 death defiance. I think that was 1 hit away from dying on any number of attacks...

Cool scene, wish I could have used my nectar tho.

Finally got to unlock aspects though, and the pact. Gonna try Chiron level 2 with 1 heat and focus on getting the bloods from the other weapons now.

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My first clear took a few more runs and was itself 45 minutes (ingame time, which pauses a lot), so that doesn't sound too bad at all to me. Part of that though was I was on Sword and had almost no damage aside from a couple of Speical buffs, a backstab boost, and some clutch jerky. Instead I had a ton of defensive and healing boosts that turned it into a test of endurance. I mean look at this shit.


A win is a win though.

I do have a question about Heat now that I have that. I want to start boosting up to Heat level 1 at least and start collecting more bounties, but obviously I don't have full clears on weapons yet (or even Elysium clears on 2 I think). How do I "catch up" on rewards I overshoot, do I just have to do duplicate heat runs down the line anyways?

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Yeah, if you cleared a 2-Heat run with rewards still left in 1-Heat you would have to do another 2-Heat run to get the 2-Heat rewards

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Cichon Bow is so good. Just did a 15 heat run with it.

Someone said that Extreme Measures Thesus is funny and I thought it was a typo for fun. Nope. That was completely ridiculous.

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Got my first clear! Love them fists



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got em

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How does twin shot work with the hidden aspect? Doesn't that one make the shot really wide already? Or am I thinking of the shield charge

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So story from last night

My buddy exclusively uses the sword every run and has gotten to like 10 heat, and hasnt really tried the other weapons at all, so I got him to try the shield and stream it to me on discord so I could watch. Poseidon trolled him hard by giving him the legendary fishing boon at the beginning and he never got any damage perks at all the entire run except an epic Frost Strikes attack boon from Demeter near the end of Asphodel. He got stomped many times and ended the run at Theseus. It was fun laughing at him the entire run. I even talked him into taking Special buffs from Chaos and the Daedelus hammer, telling him that he's bound to get a special boon soon. Never happened!

I'm the opposite of him and have cleared with every weapon now except the sword which I haven't used since my first or second run, so I started a run with the sword to style on him.

Poseidon gave me the fishing boon to start with....

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skullbone posted...

How does twin shot work with the hidden aspect? Doesn't that one make the shot really wide already? Or am I thinking of the shield charge

yeah the attack is already wide by default but now it fires two arrows. so assuming both hit you're just doing double damage basically (or at least that's how i understand it)

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I thinks it funny how everyone has different weapon preferences.

I cant imagine 32 heating with the bow. Im sure other people feel the same about me doing it with the gun

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The only bow I can tolerate is the one that lets you load your cast because it does like 400 damage with 3 casts loaded and basically 1 shots common enemies. Then you just go pick up your 3 casts and do it again!

That's my favorite weapon at the moment actually


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I feel like Hangover seems underpowered for a Railgun or Chiron Bow build? The damage isn't quite high enough. Feels inferior to Chill. Or maybe I'm doing something wrong?
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Hangover cast is pretty good. Hasn't felt particularly great on attack or special

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I haven't fully understood hangover, weak, critical. Doom and lightning seem so nuch stronger in most cases. I know there's some combos that can make them good.

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I kinda like Weak with the melee weapons, since it lets you be a bit more risky while staying up close to the enemies. Especially with the support boon that makes them slower too. That's not to say it's my favorite option, but I don't mind it.

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hangover and weak are nice to have sometimes if you have privileged status as those debuffs are easy to apply depending on the weapon/which boon it is and last a while.

if you go all in on hangover it can be pretty good i think, though Zeus is definitely the usual top tier

crit...is eh. pressure points is good with the demeter cast build or gun. crit on attack can be decent with the sword aspect that gets free crit chance after special

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Weak isn't something you get for the Weak effect itself. Aphrodite has the highest damage bonus, so if you want a pure damage build (which is doable), you want to get Weak on the attack you're doing damage with.

Plus it has a long duration so it's easy to get Privileged with.
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So Ive done a few runs after my initial clear, and as far as I can tell I still havent unlocked a way to utilize Titans Blood yet. Am I missing something?

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Hangover is strong when you can stack it quickly with lots of quick attacks and easily

Like, throwing the shield can spread it around a ton of enemies quickly, but it only puts one stack of hangover unless you spam your shield over and over, which means you can't be attacking with it. So it kinda sucks for throwing. Meanwhile, if you put Doom on your shield throw, your shield will hit everything and do a nice doom explosion on all of them. In that case I think Doom is clearly way better than Hangover.

but if you are hitting something quickly, like with the fists attack combo, or maybe the bow / spear daedelus upgrades that make them attack quickly, you stack it to max stacks basically as soon as you touch something and it'll never really fall off. in those cases it's way stronger than Doom, since those attacks only applies doom once no matter how many times you hit... you have to wait until the Doom expires to apply it again. In that case, I think Hangover is way better than Doom.

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Have you not unlocked every weapon yet?
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I think so, unless theres more than 6.

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Do one more run after you unlock the final weapon and you'll start being able to use Titan's blood. It doesn't trigger until another run for some reason.

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I unlocked all the weapons like 10 runs ago, probably!

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When you pick up a weapon, is there a shadow of the weapon left in it's place?

Cuz I got news for you - those have been there for 9 runs

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i think you need to clear first?
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oh you did oops
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CoolCly posted...

Hangover is strong when you can stack it quickly with lots of quick attacks and easily

Like, throwing the shield can spread it around a ton of enemies quickly, but it only puts one stack of hangover unless you spam your shield over and over, which means you can't be attacking with it. So it kinda sucks for throwing. Meanwhile, if you put Doom on your shield throw, your shield will hit everything and do a nice doom explosion on all of them. In that case I think Doom is clearly way better than Hangover.

but if you are hitting something quickly, like with the fists attack combo, or maybe the bow / spear daedelus upgrades that make them attack quickly, you stack it to max stacks basically as soon as you touch something and it'll never really fall off. in those cases it's way stronger than Doom, since those attacks only applies doom once no matter how many times you hit... you have to wait until the Doom expires to apply it again. In that case, I think Hangover is way better than Doom.

That's the thing - base damage for Hangover is 4 per stack every .5 seconds, coming out to 40 per second with all stacks. Doom base damage is 50 per 1.1 seconds, or 45 per second, so even with all stacks out there, Hangover's a little worse. It lasting longer helps, but it also starts up slower, and the damage scaling isn't the greatest either.
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CoolCly posted...

When you pick up a weapon, is there a shadow of the weapon left in it's place?

Cuz I got news for you - those have been there for 9 runs

...wow. Does the game give you any indication of this at all? I see now that theres a button prompt, but I would always just grab my weapon and go, there didnt seem to be any reason to go back to the empty slot after I chose one.

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