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Tom Bombadil
09/23/20 6:43:24 PM
#1:


Somebody made a vtuber topic a few months ago and then I got super dang into 'em like two days after that topic purged and now they have really taken off in popularity so let's have a topic about 'em

I was thinking about making some sorta beginners' guide or faq but maybe the boom has accelerated to the point where that's no longer necessary so I'll just do a couple quick points and if people want more then maybe I'll do a recommendation list or something

-It's somebody using facial/body mapping to move a 2d or 3d avatar of themselves, usually an anime girl, and....pretty much doing whatever a "normal" streamer would do. Most of them sing and play games and hang out and chat, some of them draw or do tutorials or ASMR or whatever else.

-There's kinda a difference between Western based ones and Eastern based ones, with a big potential for culture clash and misunderstandings. As I understand it, a lot of the English-speaking ones are just somebody you already know, using an avatar for reasons. A lot of the Japan-centric ones (including Hololive-EN) are more about playing a character, and it's not that far off from idol culture. It's extremely taboo to try to dig up information about the humans behind the characters, mostly because that usually leads to people facing doxxing and harassment and stalking and all that. Stuff like spamming and talking about other streamers is also less accepted than, like, Twitch.

-It's probably not as much of "a sex thing" as you think it is. Some vtubers are more fanservicey than others (and some fans are thirstier than others) but I think most of us are just there to chill.

-Most of the popular ones speak Japanese as a first language, but a lot of them speak at least a BIT of English, and a lot are working to improve that now that it's picking up momentum over here. And the most popular ones have lots of fans doing subtitled clips or even live in-chat translating. And there are some Western vtubers too. And Hololive (one of the biggest Japanese groups) just opened an English-speaking branch. (which stands a good chance of being what brought you here if you're reading this)

-Some folks give them money. Some folks give them A LOT of money. You don't have to, and it ain't onlyfans or something where you get a whole lot in return, but I think it's kinda nice to throw them a few bucks once in a while in exchange for the entertainment provided. Or you can go full simp, I don't care. Twitter might care though.

I have a feeling it will take me about two hours to regret having made this topic but until then let's be weebs

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skullbone
09/23/20 7:27:14 PM
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As someone who pretty much always has Twitch running on my 2nd monitor, I think vtubing is dumb.

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KamikazePotato
09/23/20 7:29:22 PM
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Mori Calliope makes good music.

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MrSmartGuy
09/23/20 7:29:29 PM
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The Korone Banjo-Kazooie playthrough is some gooooood shit. And that's even before all the memes that have come from it.

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CoolCly
09/23/20 7:36:15 PM
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The only thing I know about this is Pokimane recently got a model commissioned to use on days with no cam and people are VERY MAD at her for it

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WhiteLens
09/23/20 7:36:17 PM
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Obligatory Classic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLZEqFbrDBQ

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Mr Lasastryke
09/23/20 7:38:29 PM
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CoolCly posted...
The only thing I know about this is Pokimane recently got a model commissioned to use on days with no cam and people are VERY MAD at her for it

in b4 "who"

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Murphiroth
09/23/20 7:39:17 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
Mori Calliope makes good music.

This.

Fell down the vtuber rabbit hole due to Korone like two months ago. Current faves are all of Hololive EN with Mori and Ina at the top, and then Korone and Coco. Maybe Polka because of this clip...

https://youtu.be/YRwMxxudqvk

Outside of Hololive I like Pikamee and Hana Macchia with secret best vtuber Papa Macchia.

IronMouse is also pretty good and even comes equipped with a sad sick anime girl backstory.

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Tom Bombadil
09/23/20 8:34:14 PM
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skullbone posted...
As someone who pretty much always has Twitch running on my 2nd monitor, I think vtubing is dumb.

as someone who pretty much always has vtubers running in the background, I think twitch is dumb

KamikazePotato posted...
Mori Calliope makes good music.

I like it, although I'm hardly an authority on the genre. I really wanna try my hand at the remix contest but it'll be tough for me to learn enough about DAWs in time but hey it is something i wanted to get into anyway

WhiteLens posted...
Obligatory Classic

it's kinda wild that Kizuna Ai blew up and then faded back into semi-obscurity all well before this became a whole thing

CoolCly posted...
Pokimane

I keep hearing this name but it sounds like there is DISCOURSE involved so I have stayed away because dammit I want just one hobby where I can just chill and have a good uplifting time

I really need to watch more 5th gen but EN distracted me just a lil

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Forceful_Dragon
09/24/20 12:17:28 AM
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CoolCly posted...
The only thing I know about this is Pokimane recently got a model commissioned to use on days with no cam and people are VERY MAD at her for it

Yeah I think the controversy surrounding that is dumb. Female streamers get so much crap if they don't look a certain way or if they don't smile enough or if their attitude isn't pleasant enough etc.. If she wants to vtube occasionally for her own sanity then I don't see the issue.

The outrage has a hipster vibe, like people are mad because she isn't a "real" vtuber. But that's just my limited understanding of the issue. I don't watch much content with pokimane except recently she's been in some of Toast's Among Us videos.

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ninkendo
09/24/20 12:31:28 AM
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UF8
09/24/20 1:33:41 AM
#12:


ok i'm in for more vtuber topics yes
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UF8
09/24/20 1:38:08 AM
#13:


https://hiyoko.sonoj.net/live/ extremely useful link

i got in touch with the guy that runs it over twitter recently so now pretty much everyone i can think of is listed there when they're streaming

i personally just follow everyone i watch and limit the results to just them (which is still a ton since i follow nearly 800 people now)
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UF8
09/24/20 1:44:56 AM
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as an unnecessary point of reference, here's some stuff on there now (forgive the kiwi timezones)
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MawiIe
09/24/20 1:47:58 AM
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I've been watching Korone videos non stop for the past week. I really like her.

x potato

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Murphiroth
09/24/20 1:49:08 AM
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Korone's English only challenge stream was fantastic, might be my favorite piece of vtuber content.

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UF8
09/24/20 1:52:41 AM
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english only streams have been gaining popularity recently, but you may be surprised where the current trend originated (since it's actually not a major hololive or nijisanji or voms etc person)
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UF8
09/24/20 1:54:38 AM
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UF8
09/24/20 2:02:12 AM
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anyway here's links to the present good people in the realm of no viewers

https://youtu.be/mhpEFpOpblQ
https://youtu.be/g64iNxqf7tw
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Grand Kirby
09/24/20 2:12:18 AM
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I've been really getting into this

Korone is incredibly popular now, so I don't think I need to mention her, but I will say I really enjoyed the English-only Super Mario Bros. video.

Pikamee is really fun to watch because of how well she speaks English.

I also like Aqua's Skyrim videos

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KamikazePotato
09/24/20 2:15:39 AM
#21:


I rarely watch full streams, but I like catching the highlights. That might change now that I can understand what more of them are saying without translations.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/24/20 2:16:37 AM
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KamikazePotato
09/24/20 2:28:40 AM
#23:


Oh, and Korone is the most proficient meme generator I've ever seen. If she's doing it on purpose, I respect the hustle.


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KamikazePotato
09/24/20 2:29:58 AM
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voltch
09/24/20 4:06:00 AM
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I liked Pekora's MGS3 playthrough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBhFtvpsC64&list=PLcp3ZSDti-utiG9UL9h4oPgzR4LtPwLof

Mostly just watch Hololive stuff like Suisei, Marine, Noel, Haachama, Kanata or Watame. Though most are background noise like when they do their karaoke stuff.

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agesboy
09/24/20 5:29:00 AM
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been into vtubing for a while now, though the only ones I'll generally watch live are Kuzuha, Yashiro, and Ina (and I would watch Sio but she went on break literally three days before I discovered her)

learning ina's identity was kind of great because she's 100x better at a game I like than I'll ever be (FFXIV, she was a HARDCORE and prolific raider), though I dunno if it'll ever get streamed on her channel

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SovietOmega
09/24/20 5:52:25 AM
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I liked watching some Kizuma AI back in the day. It is also dang cool that tech's gotten to the point where this kind of stuff is within reach of anyone willing to put in the effort to do so. Still...I can't see myself getting into vtubers much. The meme clips are cool, but I generally prefer skillful or informative gameplay and that's just not the vibe I get from this sphere of entertainment.

They're all pretty adorable though, I can certainly see why there's been such a rise in awareness of them. It smacks of being a fad to me, but I'm ok with it sticking around as a concept.

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UF8
09/24/20 7:00:16 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUyA17ojXCE

there are no boundaries to vtubers

this guy literally only does videos like these and he's counted as a vtuber for years
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UF8
09/24/20 7:08:48 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsd9ON3H4c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsThiIWT2s0

streamers are just the tip of the iceberg, there are so many different things that the vtuber scene represents these days
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Tom Bombadil
09/24/20 7:27:16 AM
#31:


SovietOmega posted...
I generally prefer skillful or informative gameplay and that's just not the vibe I get from this sphere of entertainment.

Fair, although there are some pretty good gamers out there. Off the top of my head Suisei can hold her own against world class tetris players, and I don't know much about high level rhythm games but Gura seems pretty good at em.

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UF8
09/24/20 7:43:50 AM
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UF8
09/24/20 7:50:14 AM
#33:


Tom Bombadil posted...
Fair, although there are some pretty good gamers out there. Off the top of my head Suisei can hold her own against world class tetris players, and I don't know much about high level rhythm games but Gura seems pretty good at em.
incidentally, that Leina person i posted earlier is one of the best tetris players too, though she hasn't been practicing much lately. much like suisei she's also an artist, and made all of her models herself (she used to use a 3D model with a different design, but made a new Live2D one within the last week or so, also giving herself a "character" to rp as (you know how you said about japanese ones tending to do that? she was actually an exception until now, and Leina is actually just the name she goes by online. artist vtubers in particular seem pretty big on just using the medium to market themselves directly)

also half of the people that stream rhythm games (read: anyone bold enough to stream IIDX games) are definitely good at them
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UF8
09/24/20 8:07:23 AM
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20:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNhP1m63Isg yorumi rena xbox tgs simulwatch
20:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzK_Y2cTp5s mayuzumi kai xbox tgs
20:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAAOfbHVL0Q aiba uiha xbox tgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUsdG1waTWI totoki saki mario sunshine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfSaX_cF1TM tsukuru minecraft
21:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJsBnT6JE34 souya ichika
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svW7Yavtv4U maomao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNKkc1SWCLg roppo rikuru dqxi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrLWD8KYPc tange kotoe rimworld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZr53odXn2I monokaki aer little nightmares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVS81xLs9H4 kamiki hasami asmr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDKVofwhxuM asagi nagi ff14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wSwWkjtH-Y kyomu ffx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8zSM175eL8 shito anon fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkruPR9Af1M otome oto fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsSQon67Auw bafuco/nepuko fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD9BwdK0HhE (nepuko)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twKVXkZ9LWE machina roid fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bOFjSx5cPA yugarey 2 years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwYbYi3Tnac holostars among us (miyabi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzRx3bt7VEw (izuru)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWUT5a9CXqo (kira)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzPlJf1GiTI (aruran)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9c0FvRvshY (rikka)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGL-tdFLxZU (astel)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-74P3oAI7yY (temma)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO_WjPBJn3M (roberu)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrvxoFNnl3g (oga)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSVsUwmt2vU (shien)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QlbBKeaXQs hinowa asahi mario sunshine
https://twitcasting.tv/itoipiano
https://www.showroom-live.com/knhs_tsukuri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U3SnYYLbPI palette project original song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEX-vDnNSRk salla.r cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB2ZX3v9e8M tsukinowa noa clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4b2YeeQx34 asaguma yuma asmr video
21:25
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt-kBO0RO-M MZM new album stream
21:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G75FwpTPLU4 yuki michiru 3k subscribers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQKUPoFSnCQ ganbaruuko ukelele stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uIxWarWXio asano akane craftopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkxuD60spi4 xuelan fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJtKFPN9TI8 luca polka asmr
https://www.showroom-live.com/ganbaruuko
21:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odzohMY1bLk kurone yomi song stream

(if it's not obvious, these are peak hours)
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UF8
09/24/20 9:21:42 AM
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21:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPyc7HQWYro catena violetta song stream
22:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odzohMY1bLk yomi song stream (post-delay)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq4P9FECsSA hinokuma ran drink/chat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n88j-FjhRAw hirasaka mei fan birthdays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X26uRNruh0 mano rushia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B99lsnFNPzI akagami nyaru (cthulhu mythos vtuber) mahjong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ste66ASc9ZA amari nina momotaro dentetsu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eQoCI8uNh0 irodori mayoi monster strike
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9uOsKLcdOY amai hiyo craftopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u25LqJEeSIU suou patra craftopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VVsouxq0wA koto miyuri stigmatized property
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3AVu-lgucc marumochi tsukimi hopp's playhouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ObzyNlx-E hoshino mea cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toTxSNxM_no amahane yotsuha paper mario origami king lp part 60
22:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4NQrcxM2Us hekina ail/airu stigmatized property
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7VBG1wK1n4 hashino mizuha gamedev stream (enemy pixel art)

the three people near the bottom doing horror streams are all part of the same agency (Re:AcT). not sure why they all wanted to pick this hour to stream bad horror games

also it's worth mentioning that hashino mizuha is what is known as a babiniku vtuber (person that portrays themselves as a cute virtual girl), and specifically one that uses a voice changer, so that person's content may be hit or miss... but, they're also a notable indie game developer and artist and they use pretty great bgm for their streams so i feel they're still worth sharing
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UF8
09/24/20 10:23:30 AM
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22:40
https://www.showroom-live.com/monaka-007
22:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJGHYJdmU_Y kazami mikan muscle asmr video
22:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbWTdZxzaQ0 yumeoi kakeru tgs lightning games showcase simulwatch
23:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMMTfTGk8aM moemi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9TQ5MxjlDw himekuma ribon gundam battle operations 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTJFY0F6B4g aquacraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLUJ6kJtDlE fubukicraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWs9Fp9IjOo suo sango minecraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY-SxfcSec4 asahina akane minecraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7KlfOx33w8 shimamura charlotte minecraft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__C7PcKfYRc machiko clubhouse games 51
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvjnTUMwPIs much ado about v collab
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45CcY22G2f0 gatchman fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSXYl0hOhuU haato fallguys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmOSdFP4IfI ando uge apex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiJ9p89SDmM huma wat apex (collab with uge and anko (not streaming))
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOBOXQqBpLk watame karaoke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT-3THRiZnk mimimina asmr
https://www.showroom-live.com/nightmare
23:05
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-lNnkAAH1o igarashi itsutsu kitten stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aVHI4e-bH4 kano fallguys
https://www.showroom-live.com/sameno_uta
23:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MIDH2SnOgI ayame apex

the number of people on usually starts to noticeably wind down around this time

by the next hour, about half of the new streams are typically just people in like large agencies like hololive since nobody else really gets views that late (or particularly wants to stream at midnight)

and in 3, maybe 4 hours time, it's likely there won't be anyone on (or at least not starting a stream then)

(oh yeah, you can breathe a sigh of relief now. i'm not going to do posts like this from now on, i just wanted to provide some context on what an average evening is like so people can... i dunno, get a hands on chance to learn more about vtubers in the vtuber topic off the bat)

if i haven't killed the topic yet, i do intend to share big events and collabs and stuff from time to time though
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UF8
09/24/20 11:30:07 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbOW231ot_k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSQdCS485E4

couple of things from this hour that i figured i'd mention

i like how you can just leave a craftopia stream open in the background and it pretty much just sounds like someone playing breath of the wild... even with a real botw stream also on for comparison

of the several "noted popular with vtuber" games craftopia seems to have been inspired by, they sure do lean in hard on all the ones without craft in the name. i wonder if it's because they thought nobody would notice if it wasn't on the title
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Tom Bombadil
09/24/20 1:10:43 PM
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One of the nice things (if you didn't pick it up from those :P) is that there's almost always somebody streaming, in my experience. It might not be your favorite person streaming your favorite game, but I don't even really need to go beyond Hololive to get that "see what's on TV" experience I haven't had from actual TV in decades

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agesboy
09/24/20 1:51:31 PM
#39:


SovietOmega posted...
The meme clips are cool, but I generally prefer skillful or informative gameplay and that's just not the vibe I get from this sphere of entertainment.

Aqua does speedruns of different games every now and then. She's not god-tier savant level, but she is still really good, and she puts a lot of effort into playing skillfully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucZTJjFZMuE

Suisei, as mentioned before, is god-tier savant level at tetris.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orwccfVxRO8

Botan is actually insane at FPS games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZzJ5mguBQ

Sio is extremely good at mahjong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEhALFrfCCU

Gura is really really good at rhythm games
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uydZpb_F7So

others off the top of my head who are really skillful are Kuzuha (he's the kind of player that actively seeks fights instead of trying to lame it out in battle royale games, and still wins), Shizuka plays FFXIV at a pretty high level, and a bunch are really good at drawing or singing

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Aecioo
09/24/20 1:55:29 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
-It's probably not as much of "a sex thing" as you think it is. Some vtubers are more fanservicey than others (and some fans are thirstier than others) but I think most of us are just there to chill.

yeah sorry this is the second topic where tc had to defend it as "not as sexual as you think!" which leads me to believe its incredibly pervy.

Watching one minute of the links posted confirms that :/

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Murphiroth
09/24/20 1:56:11 PM
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Amelia also seems to be really good at FPS games.

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KamikazePotato
09/24/20 1:56:22 PM
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Some are, some aren't. It's that simple really.

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skullbone
09/24/20 1:58:55 PM
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Ask yourself if you'd still watch if the avatar wasn't on the screen and then ask again if it's pervy. Without the avatar it's basically just a Twitch stream despite your animosity toward that

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Aecioo
09/24/20 2:00:41 PM
#44:


skullbone posted...
Ask yourself if you'd still watch if the avatar wasn't on the screen and then ask again if it's pervy. Without the avatar it's basically just a Twitch stream despite your animosity toward that

Yeah but... it is on the screen. And it is someone pretending to be a cute animal girl that plays games...

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Murphiroth
09/24/20 2:03:31 PM
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I'd totally still watch the ones I like without the avatar.

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KamikazePotato
09/24/20 2:06:08 PM
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It's a shame that the person behind the avatar is guarded so closely because I'd like to learn more about the ones I like, yeah

Considering how absurdly toxic the Japanese fans can be though (poor Aloe), it's understandable why anonymity is important

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skullbone
09/24/20 2:18:40 PM
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Aecioo posted...
Yeah but... it is on the screen. And it is someone pretending to be a cute animal girl that plays games...

Yeah I was responding to people who say it's not pervy. I made my stance clear in the second post!

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agesboy
09/24/20 2:36:00 PM
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skullbone posted...
Ask yourself if you'd still watch if the avatar wasn't on the screen and then ask again if it's pervy.
considering two of the people I actively watch these days are dudes, and one of them has this for an avatar: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DexcxsIVAAAhOgk.jpg

...yeah, I'd still watch them if there was no avatar. The main selling point of the avatar for me is that people who are either too shy or otherwise want to remain anonymous can basically do an anonymous face cam stream. This opens things up for a lot of people who find it hard to be genuine when not anonymous, which is a sentiment I know

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MasaomiHouzuki
09/24/20 2:55:35 PM
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Wanglicious
09/24/20 3:11:15 PM
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on the flip side of being good at games we have Kiara, who is absolute ass at Mario at the comedy is in the failure.

for hololive en:
Kiara > Mori > Amelia > Ina = Gura

but Ina is a fan of Nier and is on a toaster at the moment so once she gets going she's got potential to the top.
she's also a ridiculously good artist. holy hell can she draw.
(and is a clear masochist who steals hats.)

the amount of money these girls can put out is incredible. Mori was #1 of all superchats the past week with almost 50k. Kiara and Gura were 3 and 4 i think with 36k and 34k. now they're rolling out memberships too.

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Tom Bombadil
09/24/20 3:37:39 PM
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Aecioo posted...
yeah sorry this is the second topic where tc had to defend it as "not as sexual as you think!" which leads me to believe its incredibly pervy.

the reason I led with that was that I remember how much of the last topic was spent on posts like yours!

and unless you're suggesting I watch vinesauce and nL for the sexy sexy offscreen dudes then shrug

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