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Lysandear 08/29/20 12:36:21 PM #52:	Oh, you're still in law school? <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943966939] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Oh, you're still in law school? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantAdolin 08/29/20 12:36:57 PM #53:	Lysandear posted... Oh, you're still in law school? Keep trying. <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:943966955] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Lysandear posted... </cite> <quote>Oh, you're still in law school?</quote>Keep trying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lysandear 08/29/20 12:38:00 PM #54:	Dunning Kruger is some funny shit <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943966990] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Dunning Kruger is some funny shit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PompousAss 08/29/20 12:38:43 PM #55:	Octillery and Hairistotle, two scoops of fruit that hate each other. --- I am a pompous ass. <cite>PompousAss posted [p:943967014] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Octillery and Hairistotle, two scoops of fruit that hate each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lysandear 08/29/20 12:39:19 PM #56:	Thanks random alt ilu too <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943967032] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Thanks random alt ilu too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DontHateMe 08/29/20 12:40:04 PM #57:	Cant believe theres actual human beings who think this guy traveled there for self defense, lmao. My pet monkey is smarter than that. --- Too Complicated. <cite>DontHateMe posted [p:943967057] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Cant believe theres actual human beings who think this guy traveled there for self defense, lmao. My pet monkey is smarter than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 08/29/20 12:41:53 PM #58:	you have a pet monkey?? --- There won't be any more trouble, you'll be dragged from the rubble when the lights come on <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:943967112] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>you have a pet monkey?? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DontHateMe 08/29/20 12:42:38 PM #59:	viewmaster_pi posted... you have a pet monkey?? pets good little man --- Too Complicated. <cite>DontHateMe posted [p:943967138] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>you have a pet monkey??</quote>pets good little man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lysandear 08/29/20 12:46:01 PM #61:	shockthemonkey posted... RA is Octillery? I didnt remember Oct being such an awful troll in literally every topic he posts in. Did he snap at some point? You really didn't remember that? He's the same as he's always been. He's perfectly capable of being cordial, but he's always had the "if it's what I think, it's a fact" mentality and manner of arguing <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943967239] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>RA is Octillery? I didnt remember Oct being such an awful troll in literally every topic he posts in. Did he snap at some point?</quote>You really didn't remember that? He's the same as he's always been. He's perfectly capable of being cordial, but he's always had the "if it's what I think, it's a fact" mentality and manner of arguing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bananana 08/29/20 12:46:30 PM #62:	shockthemonkey posted... RA is Octillery? I didnt remember Oct being such an awful troll in literally every topic he posts in. Did he snap at some point? this wtf --- http://error1355.com/ce/Bananana.html <cite>Bananana posted [p:943967250] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>shockthemonkey posted... </cite> <quote>RA is Octillery? I didnt remember Oct being such an awful troll in literally every topic he posts in. Did he snap at some point?</quote>this wtf </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 08/29/20 12:48:33 PM #63:	Lysandear posted... but he's always had the "if it's what I think, it's a fact" mentality and manner of arguing you mean exactly like everyone else on this board, or online in general? --- There won't be any more trouble, you'll be dragged from the rubble when the lights come on <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:943967312] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Lysandear posted... </cite> <quote>but he's always had the "if it's what I think, it's a fact" mentality and manner of arguing</quote>you mean exactly like everyone else on this board, or online in general? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lysandear 08/29/20 12:51:03 PM #65:	viewmaster_pi posted... you mean exactly like everyone else on this board, or online in general? Plenty of people here admit when they're wrong, don't know what they're talking about, or that they don't fully grasp the situation He's just not one of em <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943967393] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>you mean exactly like everyone else on this board, or online in general?</quote>Plenty of people here admit when they're wrong, don't know what they're talking about, or that they don't fully grasp the situation He's just not one of em </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 08/29/20 12:51:13 PM #66:	Octillery also defends police in every situation. Edit: Im wrong see post 68 --- I fought the Mods and I won ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:943967400] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Octillery also defends police in every situation. Edit: Im wrong see post 68 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lysandear 08/29/20 12:53:22 PM #68:	FursonaNonGrata posted... Octillery also defends police in every situation. He used to but he's been pretty vocal against the past few months of brutality, at least from what I've seen <cite>Lysandear posted [p:943967461] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>FursonaNonGrata posted... </cite> <quote>Octillery also defends police in every situation.</quote>He used to but he's been pretty vocal against the past few months of brutality, at least from what I've seen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantAdolin 08/29/20 12:58:09 PM #69:	Lysandear posted... He used to but he's been pretty vocal against the past few months of brutality, at least from what I've seen You're correct. I also condemn the cops that handled Kyle at the protest, for what it's worth. <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:943967610] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Lysandear posted... </cite> <quote>He used to but he's been pretty vocal against the past few months of brutality, at least from what I've seen</quote>You're correct. I also condemn the cops that handled Kyle at the protest, for what it's worth. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 08/29/20 12:59:00 PM #70:	Sorry Octillery --- I fought the Mods and I won ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:943967630] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Sorry Octillery </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MKScorpion 08/29/20 1:01:54 PM #71:	Are we all just going to pretend that he didn't go there for the sole purpose of starting trouble? "He acted in self defense" um...I guess? Idk if it's really self defense when you go out of your way to provoke a particular response like that though....we all know he went there to do just that. Rile up some people and get them to come after him so he could shoot somebody. <cite>MKScorpion posted [p:943967730] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Are we all just going to pretend that he didn't go there for the sole purpose of starting trouble? "He acted in self defense" um...I guess? Idk if it's really self defense when you go out of your way to provoke a particular response like that though....we all know he went there to do just that. Rile up some people and get them to come after him so he could shoot somebody. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 08/29/20 1:35:17 PM #72:	The kid is an idiot that made some bad decisions to be in that place at that time with the gun. There was no need for him to do that and the people in his life that got him to that point are included in the idiocy. But, whether or not he committed criminal murder is not that clear and anyone that suggests it is has some kind of bias one way or the other. (I'm not excusing his actions or defending him, just looking at the question of whether he could be charged with criminal murder) From what I know of the videos its not exactly clear what led up to the shooting. People that are defending him are doing so without really knowing if he was defending his life, and the people that are attacking him are doing so without really knowing if he was provoked into defending himself. IMO, people are looking at a few frames of a video and making a conclusion that is largely politically based. Legally, a person has a right to defend themselves from a legit threat to their lives. There is little doubt that he made dumb decisions to be there that night, but that doesn't mean he waives the right to claim self defense for anything that happens. If he was attacked and feared for his life he had the right to defend himself. If he wasn't attacked, and didn't have a valid fear for his life, he wasn't. MKScorpion posted... Are we all just going to pretend that he didn't go there for the sole purpose of starting trouble? This is also not very clear and may not matter. The video of him explaining that he is there to defend the property is going to be used to show that he wasn't there to murder people. As dumb and unnecessary as it was for him to go there and do that, there is a difference between going to watch, anti-protest and defend business and going there to assault someone so that you can shoot them. Most of the exceptions to self defense based on provocation are usually where someone has an issue with a specific person and does something to provoke them to get into a fight or something where the person then pulls out a gun and kills them. Again, its not really clear what happened that led up to the shooting. Bottom line for me -- its not really clear. Its a lame conclusion I guess but IMO people are using the kid to push an agenda and without more evidence its hard to really conclude one way or the other if he was justified in defending himself. He isn't a hero or patriot and his treatment by police shows the inherent injustice present in the criminal process -- the exact thing the people are protesting -- but its just not clear to me based on the videos I have seen if he was justified in the murder or not. --- ************************************************ https://imgur.com/iZdWIKJ <cite>whitelytning posted [p:943968867] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>The kid is an idiot that made some bad decisions to be in that place at that time with the gun. There was no need for him to do that and the people in his life that got him to that point are included in the idiocy. But, whether or not he committed criminal murder is not that clear and anyone that suggests it is has some kind of bias one way or the other. (I'm not excusing his actions or defending him, just looking at the question of whether he could be charged with criminal murder) From what I know of the videos its not exactly clear what led up to the shooting. People that are defending him are doing so without really knowing if he was defending his life, and the people that are attacking him are doing so without really knowing if he was provoked into defending himself. IMO, people are looking at a few frames of a video and making a conclusion that is largely politically based. Legally, a person has a right to defend themselves from a legit threat to their lives. There is little doubt that he made dumb decisions to be there that night, but that doesn't mean he waives the right to claim self defense for anything that happens. If he was attacked and feared for his life he had the right to defend himself. If he wasn't attacked, and didn't have a valid fear for his life, he wasn't. MKScorpion posted... </cite> <quote>Are we all just going to pretend that he didn't go there for the sole purpose of starting trouble?</quote> This is also not very clear and may not matter. The video of him explaining that he is there to defend the property is going to be used to show that he wasn't there to murder people. As dumb and unnecessary as it was for him to go there and do that, there is a difference between going to watch, anti-protest and defend business and going there to assault someone so that you can shoot them. Most of the exceptions to self defense based on provocation are usually where someone has an issue with a specific person and does something to provoke them to get into a fight or something where the person then pulls out a gun and kills them. Again, its not really clear what happened that led up to the shooting. Bottom line for me -- its not really clear. Its a lame conclusion I guess but IMO people are using the kid to push an agenda and without more evidence its hard to really conclude one way or the other if he was justified in defending himself. He isn't a hero or patriot and his treatment by police shows the inherent injustice present in the criminal process -- the exact thing the people are protesting -- but its just not clear to me based on the videos I have seen if he was justified in the murder or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ALIEN_WORK2HOP 08/29/20 1:43:10 PM #73:	how did he go from standing in front of a business to shooting someone in front of a gas station anyway? --- If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. <cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted [p:943969170] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>how did he go from standing in front of a business to shooting someone in front of a gas station anyway? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 08/29/20 1:43:33 PM #74:	whitelytning posted... The video of him explaining that he is there to defend the property is going to be used to show that he wasn't there to murder people. As dumb and unnecessary as it was for him to go there and do that, there is a difference between going to watch, anti-protest and defend business and going there to assault someone so that you can shoot them. To most of us outside the US (and probably to a lot of people in the US, honestly) it's insane that "I was just there to defend property!" could be an argued and accepted legal defense. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV https://imgur.com/S1m3po4 https://imgur.com/7fCcfko <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:943969182] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted...</cite> <quote>The video of him explaining that he is there to defend the property is going to be used to show that he wasn't there to murder people. As dumb and unnecessary as it was for him to go there and do that, there is a difference between going to watch, anti-protest and defend business and going there to assault someone so that you can shoot them.</quote> To most of us outside the US (and probably to a lot of people in the US, honestly) it's insane that "I was just there to defend property!" could be an argued and accepted legal defense.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/29/20 1:56:28 PM #75:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... how did he go from standing in front of a business to shooting someone in front of a gas station anyway? Reports suggest he was chased and cornered by Rosenbaum and other unnamed assailants. Also, what business was he there to defend? Was it the gas station? <cite>Esrac posted [p:943969631] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>how did he go from standing in front of a business to shooting someone in front of a gas station anyway?</quote> Reports suggest he was chased and cornered by Rosenbaum and other unnamed assailants. Also, what business was he there to defend? Was it the gas station? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadiantAdolin 08/29/20 2:01:07 PM #76:	Esrac posted... Reports suggest he was chased and cornered by Rosenbaum and other unnamed assailants. Also, what business was he there to defend? Was it the gas station? He was initially chased only by Rosenbaum, who allegedly tried to grab Kyle's gun and was then shot, then the crowd chased him. <cite>RadiantAdolin posted [p:943969769] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Reports suggest he was chased and cornered by Rosenbaum and other unnamed assailants. Also, what business was he there to defend? Was it the gas station?</quote>He was initially chased only by Rosenbaum, who allegedly tried to grab Kyle's gun and was then shot, then the crowd chased him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/29/20 2:02:59 PM #77:	scorpion41 posted... He acted in self-defense. You can argue his intent being there all you want, but he was attacked and reacted to a life threatening situation. At the MOST they can charge him with brandishing, and maybe a couple other minor charges. You think Philando Castile should have been shot , but you defend this guy who illegally carried around a gun and killed people. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:943969829] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>scorpion41 posted... </cite> <quote>He acted in self-defense. You can argue his intent being there all you want, but he was attacked and reacted to a life threatening situation. At the MOST they can charge him with brandishing, and maybe a couple other minor charges.</quote> You think Philando Castile should have been shot , but you defend this guy who illegally carried around a gun and killed people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/29/20 2:04:37 PM #78:	whitelytning posted... This is also not very clear and may not matter. The video of him explaining that he is there to defend the property is going to be used to show that he wasn't there to murder people. As dumb and unnecessary as it was for him to go there and do that, there is a difference between going to watch, anti-protest and defend business and going there to assault someone so that you can shoot them. No it is not. He is not a cop, he doesn't have the right to defend a place with gun. Him bringing the gun shows he wanted to defend with his gun. That is another crime. Damn you guys really like this criminal . --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:943969890] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite> <quote>This is also not very clear and may not matter. The video of him explaining that he is there to defend the property is going to be used to show that he wasn't there to murder people. As dumb and unnecessary as it was for him to go there and do that, there is a difference between going to watch, anti-protest and defend business and going there to assault someone so that you can shoot them.</quote> No it is not. He is not a cop, he doesn't have the right to defend a place with gun. Him bringing the gun shows he wanted to defend with his gun. That is another crime. Damn you guys really like this criminal . </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DystopiaMan 08/29/20 2:27:10 PM #79:	Jacob Blake was a lowlife degenerate criminal too. Yet I bet your not making topics about that. --- Insert signature here <cite>DystopiaMan posted [p:943970680] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Jacob Blake was a lowlife degenerate criminal too. Yet I bet your not making topics about that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ALIEN_WORK2HOP 08/29/20 2:45:55 PM #80:	Dunno, imo the people attacking him were acting in self defense too. When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too (if I had the balls, which I probably wouldn't). But I guess that is probably the biggest issue with the whole militia / good guy with a gun / open carry / wild wild west bullshit that Americans consider their personal freedom to be all about. --- If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. <cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted [p:943971384] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Dunno, imo the people attacking him were acting in self defense too. When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too (if I had the balls, which I probably wouldn't). But I guess that is probably the biggest issue with the whole militia / good guy with a gun / open carry / wild wild west bullshit that Americans consider their personal freedom to be all about. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lyrica 08/29/20 2:49:46 PM #81:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... Dunno, imo the people attacking him were acting in self defense too. When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too (if I had the balls, which I probably wouldn't). But I guess that is probably the biggest issue with the whole militia / good guy with a gun / open carry / wild wild west bullshit that Americans consider their personal freedom to be all about. Since when did running to disarm someone who has a rifle become an act of smart thinking? He also wasn't going around shooting people or shooting into crowds. He shot someone who was actively chasing him who he could not outrun. That same person grabbed his rifle and tried to take it away from him as reported by an eyewitness. <cite>Lyrica posted [p:943971511] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>Dunno, imo the people attacking him were acting in self defense too. When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too (if I had the balls, which I probably wouldn't). But I guess that is probably the biggest issue with the whole militia / good guy with a gun / open carry / wild wild west bullshit that Americans consider their personal freedom to be all about.</quote>Since when did running to disarm someone who has a rifle become an act of smart thinking? He also wasn't going around shooting people or shooting into crowds. He shot someone who was actively chasing him who he could not outrun. That same person grabbed his rifle and tried to take it away from him as reported by an eyewitness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DontHateMe 08/29/20 2:49:51 PM #82:	Death penalty to this racist MAGA trumpie. He deserves to have his last breath taken from him and anyone defending him. Jacob Blake, BLACK IS KING! --- Too Complicated. <cite>DontHateMe posted [p:943971513] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Death penalty to this racist MAGA trumpie. He deserves to have his last breath taken from him and anyone defending him. Jacob Blake, BLACK IS KING! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BeyondWalls 08/29/20 2:56:06 PM #83:	Wait... did his mom really drive him there? --- END OF LINE <cite>BeyondWalls posted [p:943971706] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Wait... did his mom really drive him there? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Poop2 08/29/20 3:02:09 PM #84:	Prismsblade posted... Nobody who attacked this guy were saints themselves so idk what the point is to trying to villinize a guy in this circumstance. Oh the ignorant irony <cite>Poop2 posted [p:943971903] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Prismsblade posted... </cite> <quote>Nobody who attacked this guy were saints themselves so idk what the point is to trying to villinize a guy in this circumstance.</quote>Oh the ignorant irony </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/29/20 3:02:16 PM #85:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... Dunno, imo the people attacking him were acting in self defense too. When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too (if I had the balls, which I probably wouldn't). But I guess that is probably the biggest issue with the whole militia / good guy with a gun / open carry / wild wild west bullshit that Americans consider their personal freedom to be all about. The thing is he wasn't running around killing people. He shot the first guy after trying to run away first and fired when he was cornered and the guy tried to grab for his gun. He shot the second and third guy after he tried to run away from them and other assailants, but tripped. One tried to bludgeon him with a skateboard and the other pulled a handgun on him. In all the video footage I've seen, Rittenhouse was on the retreat and only fired when cornered. <cite>Esrac posted [p:943971907] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>Dunno, imo the people attacking him were acting in self defense too. When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too (if I had the balls, which I probably wouldn't). But I guess that is probably the biggest issue with the whole militia / good guy with a gun / open carry / wild wild west bullshit that Americans consider their personal freedom to be all about.</quote> The thing is he wasn't running around killing people. He shot the first guy after trying to run away first and fired when he was cornered and the guy tried to grab for his gun. He shot the second and third guy after he tried to run away from them and other assailants, but tripped. One tried to bludgeon him with a skateboard and the other pulled a handgun on him. In all the video footage I've seen, Rittenhouse was on the retreat and only fired when cornered. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Serious Cat 08/29/20 3:02:22 PM #86:	whitelytning posted... Most of the exceptions to self defense based on provocation are usually where someone has an issue with a specific person and does something to provoke them to get into a fight or something where the person then pulls out a gun and kills them. Again, its not really clear what happened that led up to the shooting. He brought along a gun with the intention of using it. https://twitter.com/RichieMcGinniss/status/1298657958205820928?s=20 --- I are Serious Cat This is serious thread <cite>Serious Cat posted [p:943971911] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>whitelytning posted... </cite> <quote>Most of the exceptions to self defense based on provocation are usually where someone has an issue with a specific person and does something to provoke them to get into a fight or something where the person then pulls out a gun and kills them. Again, its not really clear what happened that led up to the shooting.</quote>He brought along a gun with the intention of using it. https://twitter.com/RichieMcGinniss/status/1298657958205820928?s=20 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ALIEN_WORK2HOP 08/29/20 3:11:48 PM #87:	Esrac posted... The thing is he wasn't running around killing people. He shot the first guy after trying to run away first and fired when he was cornered and the guy tried to grab for his gun. Yeah the first guy might have been a clear case of self-defense. But I would imagine the situation to be completely chaotic. Imagine you are around the block, didn't see any of it happening. All you see is people running away screaming that somebody shot a guy. Next thing you see is a guy with a rifle running around. Nobody knows who this guy is and what his intentions are. If you think he is coming to shoot you, you will try to fucking take his gun away. --- If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. <cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted [p:943972239] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is he wasn't running around killing people. He shot the first guy after trying to run away first and fired when he was cornered and the guy tried to grab for his gun.</quote> Yeah the first guy might have been a clear case of self-defense. But I would imagine the situation to be completely chaotic. Imagine you are around the block, didn't see any of it happening. All you see is people running away screaming that somebody shot a guy. Next thing you see is a guy with a rifle running around. Nobody knows who this guy is and what his intentions are. If you think he is coming to shoot you, you will try to fucking take his gun away. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronTusk 08/29/20 3:15:45 PM #88:	scorpion41 posted... He acted in self-defense. You can argue his intent being there all you want, but he was attacked and reacted to a life threatening situation. At the MOST they can charge him with brandishing, and maybe a couple other minor charges. Ask yourself -- REALLY ask yourself -- whether you would say this if he was Black. <cite>IronTusk posted [p:943972375] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>scorpion41 posted... </cite> <quote>He acted in self-defense. You can argue his intent being there all you want, but he was attacked and reacted to a life threatening situation. At the MOST they can charge him with brandishing, and maybe a couple other minor charges.</quote> Ask yourself -- REALLY ask yourself -- whether you would say this if he was Black. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/29/20 3:17:54 PM #89:	Esrac posted... The thing is he wasn't running around killing people. He shot the first guy after trying to run away first and fired when he was cornered and the guy tried to grab for his gun. He shot the second and third guy after he tried to run away from them and other assailants, but tripped. One tried to bludgeon him with a skateboard and the other pulled a handgun on him. In all the video footage I've seen, Rittenhouse was on the retreat and only fired when cornered. So you think Zimmerman should be in jail. Since he chased down a teenager then killed said teen when he could not fight him off. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:943972442] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>The thing is he wasn't running around killing people. He shot the first guy after trying to run away first and fired when he was cornered and the guy tried to grab for his gun. He shot the second and third guy after he tried to run away from them and other assailants, but tripped. One tried to bludgeon him with a skateboard and the other pulled a handgun on him. In all the video footage I've seen, Rittenhouse was on the retreat and only fired when cornered.</quote> So you think Zimmerman should be in jail. Since he chased down a teenager then killed said teen when he could not fight him off. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 08/29/20 3:18:31 PM #90:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... Yeah the first guy might have been a clear case of self-defense. But I would imagine the situation to be completely chaotic. Imagine you are around the block, didn't see any of it happening. All you see is people running away screaming that somebody shot a guy. Next thing you see is a guy with a rifle running around. Nobody knows who this guy is and what his intentions are. If you think he is coming to shoot you, you will try to fucking take his gun away. I imagine most people who are concerned that someone will shoot him would retreat. But fair enough. I acknowledge the confusion of a chaotic situation. They probably thought they were apprehending a bad guy. However, with the video evidence we have, the facts of the matter show Rittenhouse fleeing and a group of people chasing him. And the only people of that group he shot are the ones who swung a skateboard at his head and pulled a handgun on him. And only after he tripped and had his back against the ground, so to speak. He showed more restraint than he could have. <cite>Esrac posted [p:943972465] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah the first guy might have been a clear case of self-defense. But I would imagine the situation to be completely chaotic. Imagine you are around the block, didn't see any of it happening. All you see is people running away screaming that somebody shot a guy. Next thing you see is a guy with a rifle running around. Nobody knows who this guy is and what his intentions are. If you think he is coming to shoot you, you will try to fucking take his gun away.</quote> I imagine most people who are concerned that someone will shoot him would retreat. But fair enough. I acknowledge the confusion of a chaotic situation. They probably thought they were apprehending a bad guy. However, with the video evidence we have, the facts of the matter show Rittenhouse fleeing and a group of people chasing him. And the only people of that group he shot are the ones who swung a skateboard at his head and pulled a handgun on him. And only after he tripped and had his back against the ground, so to speak. He showed more restraint than he could have. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
superXY 08/29/20 3:19:24 PM #91:	IronTusk posted... Ask yourself -- REALLY ask yourself -- whether you would say this if he was Black. Race shouldn't matter when there's clear evidence of someone acting in self defense after retreating several times. You just want to "gotcha!" someone into being a racist, let's be honest. --- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in mind at the same time and still retain the ability to function." <cite>superXY posted [p:943972493] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>IronTusk posted... </cite> <quote>Ask yourself -- REALLY ask yourself -- whether you would say this if he was Black.</quote> Race shouldn't matter when there's clear evidence of someone acting in self defense after retreating several times. You just want to "gotcha!" someone into being a racist, let's be honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FursonaNonGrata 08/29/20 3:21:38 PM #92:	https://twitter.com/princereese_28/status/1299683047634333700?s=21 --- I fought the Mods and I won ~The Outlaw Country of Posting~ <cite>FursonaNonGrata posted [p:943972571] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/princereese_28/status/1299683047634333700?s=21 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lyrica 08/29/20 3:23:56 PM #93:	Esrac posted... I imagine most people who are concerned that someone will shoot him would retreat. But fair enough. I acknowledge the confusion of a chaotic situation. They probably thought they were apprehending a bad guy. However, with the video evidence we have, the facts of the matter show Rittenhouse fleeing and a group of people chasing him. And the only people of that group he shot are the ones who swung a skateboard at his head and pulled a handgun on him. And only after he tripped and had his back against the ground, so to speak. He showed more restraint than he could have. This. Two lawyers have spoke on the situation and believe the charges will be dropped without going to court. But he will probably get a misdemeanor for carrying. <cite>Lyrica posted [p:943972652] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>I imagine most people who are concerned that someone will shoot him would retreat. But fair enough. I acknowledge the confusion of a chaotic situation. They probably thought they were apprehending a bad guy. However, with the video evidence we have, the facts of the matter show Rittenhouse fleeing and a group of people chasing him. And the only people of that group he shot are the ones who swung a skateboard at his head and pulled a handgun on him. And only after he tripped and had his back against the ground, so to speak. He showed more restraint than he could have.</quote>This. Two lawyers have spoke on the situation and believe the charges will be dropped without going to court. But he will probably get a misdemeanor for carrying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronTusk 08/29/20 3:24:39 PM #94:	superXY posted... Race shouldn't matter when there's clear evidence of someone acting in self defense after retreating several times. You just want to "gotcha!" someone into being a racist, let's be honest. Are you claiming that if all the circumstances were the same and Kyle Rittenhouse was Black, that Tucker Carlson would be defending him? https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act Lest we forget. <cite>IronTusk posted [p:943972676] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>superXY posted... </cite> <quote>Race shouldn't matter when there's clear evidence of someone acting in self defense after retreating several times. You just want to "gotcha!" someone into being a racist, let's be honest.</quote> Are you claiming that if all the circumstances were the same and Kyle Rittenhouse was Black, that Tucker Carlson would be defending him? https://www.history.com/news/black-panthers-gun-control-nra-support-mulford-act Lest we forget. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 08/29/20 3:26:15 PM #95:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too And you'd be an idiot for that, you run away from gunmen not to them --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:943972737] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>When I see some guy running around with a gun killing people, I would try to disarm the guy too</quote>And you'd be an idiot for that, you run away from gunmen not to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 08/29/20 3:28:34 PM #96:	An Alt Right women beating murderer at the age of 17. No wonder certain types around here go to bat for him so hard lmao --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:943972810] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>An Alt Right women beating murderer at the age of 17. No wonder certain types around here go to bat for him so hard lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ALIEN_WORK2HOP 08/29/20 3:40:39 PM #97:	Dathrowed1 posted... And you'd be an idiot for that, you run away from gunmen not to them Then there is a pretty thin line between beiung a hero or an idiot. Two people tried doing it and one of them paid with his life. In this case, what's with all the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric? IIRC the last guy that was shot in the arm even had a gun. Guess they are all idiots. --- If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. <cite>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted [p:943973213] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>And you'd be an idiot for that, you run away from gunmen not to them</quote> Then there is a pretty thin line between beiung a hero or an idiot. Two people tried doing it and one of them paid with his life. In this case, what's with all the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric? IIRC the last guy that was shot in the arm even had a gun. Guess they are all idiots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 08/29/20 3:47:04 PM #98:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... Then there is a pretty thin line between beiung a hero or an idiot. Two people tried doing it and one of them paid with his life. In this case, what's with all the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric? IIRC the last guy that was shot in the arm even had a gun. Guess they are all idiots. Yeah none of them should have been outside past curfew --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:943973394] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>Then there is a pretty thin line between beiung a hero or an idiot. Two people tried doing it and one of them paid with his life. In this case, what's with all the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric? IIRC the last guy that was shot in the arm even had a gun. Guess they are all idiots.</quote>Yeah none of them should have been outside past curfew </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/29/20 3:47:09 PM #99:	ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... hen there is a pretty thin line between beiung a hero or an idiot. Two people tried doing it and one of them paid with his life. In this case, what's with all the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric? IIRC the last guy that was shot in the arm even had a gun. Guess they are all idiots. So this guy should have let this mass shooter kill more people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quPElBOzaag --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:943973398] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>ALIEN_WORK2HOP posted... </cite> <quote>hen there is a pretty thin line between beiung a hero or an idiot. Two people tried doing it and one of them paid with his life. In this case, what's with all the "good guy with a gun" rhetoric? IIRC the last guy that was shot in the arm even had a gun. Guess they are all idiots.</quote> So this guy should have let this mass shooter kill more people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quPElBOzaag </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dathrowed1 08/29/20 3:47:54 PM #100:	cjsdowg posted... So this guy should have let this mass shooter kill more people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quPElBOzaag Not a comparable situation, but glad dude did live --- sig <cite>Dathrowed1 posted [p:943973423] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>cjsdowg posted... </cite> <quote>So this guy should have let this mass shooter kill more people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quPElBOzaag</quote>Not a comparable situation, but glad dude did live </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 08/29/20 4:01:17 PM #101:	Dathrowed1 posted... Not a comparable situation, but glad dude did live We have a crazy criminal loner incel shooting up people and someone tried to stop them. If that shooter had a MAGA hat and was complaining about Marxist the right wingers would be all the blaze defending him. --- NO I don't support Trump Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:943973819] in Kyle Ritte... [t:78940777]...</cite> <quote>Dathrowed1 posted... </cite> <quote>Not a comparable situation, but glad dude did live</quote> We have a crazy criminal loner incel shooting up people and someone tried to stop them. If that shooter had a MAGA hat and was complaining about Marxist the right wingers would be all the blaze defending him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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