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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:08:45 AM
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a-c-a-b
08/28/20 12:12:33 AM
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Not surprising at all.
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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:14:00 AM
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a-c-a-b posted...
Not surprising at all.


but 40 percent is like...a crazy fucking high statistic.

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nemu
08/28/20 12:14:35 AM
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It could very well be true, but it's kind of hard to believe these people in particular when they admit to using a small sample size and outdated data. That's the sign of a bad study being propped up for a juicy headline.
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Tmaster148
08/28/20 12:14:43 AM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
but 40 percent is like...a crazy fucking high statistic.

It's almost like the guy of people who become police officers are the kind of people who enjoy asserting violent force over others.

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Kaiganeer
08/28/20 12:16:12 AM
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nemu posted...
they admit to using a small sample size and outdated data
there we go
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BGleason22
08/28/20 12:17:16 AM
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Perhaps I'm blind, but I'm not seeing a link to the data in that article.

Here's what I did read:

A book written 30 years ago claimed there were studies done that show 40% of cops said they participated in domestic violence. Again, no links to any studies. But it does admit that the sample sizes used in the studies were very small and the information was very out dated.
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Unsugarized_Foo
08/28/20 12:19:59 AM
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I'm surprised it's that low

Because cops are supposed to be evil


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ButteryMales
08/28/20 12:20:44 AM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
but 40 percent is like...a crazy fucking high statistic.
Nah, sounds too low for the subject.
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Phantom36
08/28/20 12:20:55 AM
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nemu posted...
It could very well be true, but it's kind of hard to believe these people in particular when they admit to using a small sample size and outdated data. That's the sign of a bad study being propped up for a juicy headline.

This. But it's all about juicy headlines now more than journalism.

A week ago the state of Iowa had a storm destroy over 30% of the state's corn crops (that's insane) and do millions of dollars in damage.

This should be a huge story, but the national media covered it for about 30 seconds before reverting back to the stories that give them more clicks and better ratings.

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Irony
08/28/20 12:21:04 AM
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We have a cop that does that

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:22:09 AM
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Irony posted...
We have a cop that does that


we?

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Irony
08/28/20 12:22:34 AM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
we?
CE

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IShall_Run_Amok
08/28/20 12:24:01 AM
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Its probably not an accurate analysis of the situation, buuuut its still funny and terrible.

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:25:09 AM
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Irony posted...
CE


oh really now? Who?

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Irony
08/28/20 12:25:47 AM
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Is that a serious question? We have 1 cop here.

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TheVipaGTS
08/28/20 12:27:30 AM
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Lets be real, if the data showed that most cops were failures in HS who were either bullied, or not good enough to be anything else, no one would be surprised..So i'm not really surprised...

Irony posted...
Is that a serious question? We have 1 cop here.
our cop just beats his dog.

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Irony
08/28/20 12:27:45 AM
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And his wife

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Rathinor
08/28/20 12:27:54 AM
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The other 60% defend the 40%
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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:28:15 AM
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Irony posted...
And his wife


thats quite an accusation

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Irony
08/28/20 12:29:48 AM
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Why am I the only one that remembers stuff. Like pioverlord having welched 4 times

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:33:37 AM
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Irony posted...
Why am I the only one that remembers stuff. Like pioverlord having welched 4 times

who?

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Zeeak4444
08/28/20 12:33:42 AM
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I mean, ya the actual headline itself is useless.

but inside the article theres still great nuggets, like the 227 reports of domestic abuse that resulted in only 91 investigations and of those only 4 convictions, of which only 1 officer was suspended, for three weeks.

Thats beyond concerning.

edit: corrected the numbers instead of using estimates from recollection.

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 12:37:46 AM
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Just so we understand, that specific study they quote. Is from one department and considered yelling as domestic dispute. It is also from 1991. The statistics now show cops actually have a lower number. By far

This post addresses the number
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskSocialScience/comments/b9fkny/is_the_claim_that_40_of_police_c
ommit_domestic/

https://www.reddit.com/r/unpopularopinion/comments/b9vzl9/the_40_of_cops_are_domestic_abusers_claim_is_a_lie/

I know for a fact Ive called you out on this before ...

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 12:38:55 AM
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The 40% number is wrong and plain old bad science. In attempt to recreate the numbers, by the same researchers, they received a rate of 24% while including violence as shouting. Further researchers found rates of 7%, 7.8%, 10%, and 13% with stricter definitions and better research methodology.

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:39:32 AM
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Uh oh someone is already triggered


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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 12:39:34 AM
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There are a number of flaws with the aforementioned study:
The study includes as 'violent incidents' a one time push, shove, shout, loss of temper, or an incidents where a spouse acted out in anger. These do not meet the legal standard for domestic violence. This same study reports that the victims reported a 10% rate of physical domestic violence from their partner. The statement doesn't indicate who the aggressor is; the officer or the spouse. The study is a survey and not an empirical scientific study. The domestic violence acts are not confirmed as actually being violent. The study occurred nearly 30 years ago. This study shows minority and female officers were more likely to commit the DV, and white males were least likely.

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Zeeak4444
08/28/20 12:40:23 AM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
Uh oh someone is already triggered

24 and 25 are gone. Im guessing its Darkprince dude.

edit: and so is 27 lmao.

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 12:40:25 AM
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Nah, just making sure actual facts come out thats all

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:41:04 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
24 and 25 are gone. Im guessing its Darkprince dude.

edit: and so is 27 lmao.

lol thought he had me blocked. Dude must be triggered af

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Tmaster148
08/28/20 12:41:47 AM
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MFBKBass5 posted...
lol thought he had me blocked. Dude must be triggered af

When isn't he triggered anymore?

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:43:18 AM
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I wonder if hell address the guy itt who accused him of beating his wife.

thats a pretty serious accusation to not deny.

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 12:44:45 AM
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I have that person blocked apparently and obviously for good reason reason if you need to ask an immature and disgusting questions like that

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Zeeak4444
08/28/20 12:46:43 AM
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If he posts anything good someone quote it for me please. I could use a solid laugh right now.

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 12:49:23 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
If he posts anything good someone quote it for me please. I could use a solid laugh right now.

lol same

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Rathinor
08/28/20 12:53:52 AM
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Hmm, he's denying beating his wife, but not beating his dog?


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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 12:58:06 AM
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I dont know what youre talking about, I have that person blocked. Im answering what bass said

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 1:00:00 AM
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Rathinor posted...
Hmm, he's denying beating his wife, but not beating his dog?



who are we talking about?

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Warrior_Man
08/28/20 1:03:23 AM
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*posts garbage statistics*
"those statistics are garbage"
"lol u mad?"

What a fun, typical anti-cop topic on CE.

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 1:04:55 AM
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Warrior_Man posted...
*posts garbage statistics*
"those statistics are garbage"
"lol u mad?"

What a fun, typical anti-cop topic on CE.

of course it is. Then they result to saying I beat my wife, and spamming a fake narrative about one of my huskies. Not one person addressed the actual rebuttal to those bad stats


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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 1:06:22 AM
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Warrior_Man posted...
*posts garbage statistics*
"those statistics are garbage"
"lol u mad?"

What a fun, typical anti-cop topic on CE.


hey all I did was post a link brah

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Middle hope
08/28/20 1:06:29 AM
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I thought posting statistics was frowned upon?

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mech dragon
08/28/20 1:14:12 AM
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When people try to argue not all cops... they should say actually not 60% of cops... what a big diff

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Phantom36
08/28/20 1:14:27 AM
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Middle hope posted...
I thought posting statistics was frowned upon?

Only when the statistics don't promote your viewpoint.

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 1:15:10 AM
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mech dragon posted...
When people try to argue not all cops... they should say actually only 60% of cops...
You mean more like 97 92 94 apparently and that doesnt specify cop or spouse

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DontHateMe
08/28/20 1:16:55 AM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
You mean more like 97 92 94 apparently and that doesnt specify cop or spouse
Found Mark.

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 1:18:35 AM
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DontHateMe posted...
Found Mark.


lmao why am I not surprised its mark in her having to defend his profession

*yawn*

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Tmaster148
08/28/20 1:19:23 AM
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You know, it's weird to block someone and then post in their topic.

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MFBKBass5
08/28/20 1:21:10 AM
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Tmaster148 posted...
You know, it's weird to block someone and then post in their topic.


I ignored him a while ago and CE is so much nicer. Coulda sworn he had me blocked though. Guess he needed more purpose in his life, I dunno

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Mark_DeRosa
08/28/20 1:34:50 AM
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You mean clarifying false statistics that youre posting??? Lol

womp womp

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