Board 8 > DBZ Dokkan Battle Topic - 350M DL Celebration

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Emeraldegg
10/11/20 7:43:27 PM
#402:


Vs Super STR ESBR done after a buncha tries:

Zamasu lead
EZA Black Rose
Metal Cooler
EZA Golden Frieza
Super 17
EZA Broly
LR Vegeta/Nappa friend
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skullbone
10/11/20 8:08:25 PM
#403:


INT Kid Buu EZA details:

https://i.redd.it/ngqqpxhiafs51.jpg

APT puts him somewhere between 4.5 and 5 million with supports apparently

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The Mana Sword
10/12/20 7:31:00 AM
#404:


Not really news, but the Launch and Oceanus awakening are coming tomorrow with Chain Battle and the Raditz EZA & Buff Buu EZA.

And thats basically it. Content pls.

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The Mana Sword
10/12/20 9:27:57 AM
#405:


Also sometimes I don't really understand the damage calculations in this game. I feel like a Transforming Trunks with 300k defense shouldn't get nugged for 200k+ by a MUI Goku super, even with the type disadvantage, but here we are.

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Emeraldegg
10/12/20 12:56:15 PM
#406:


The way I've decided to assume it works is that any buff/debuff granted by stuff like type or skills etc, are applied to the unit's atk BEFORE comparing to the opponent's defense. So like for example, you have your 300k defense, that means that any enemy with base atk 300k or below will do scratch damage on a normal. But seeing as how supers multiple atk by many times (immense at lv1 is 280%) on top of the type advantage (which I think is straight up 2x?), means that even someone with like 100k base atk power could theoretically break your defense with a super. Obv it's tough to say for sure what enemies use as their stats, whether it's base lv1 SA or SA 10, etc, but it's what makes sense to me.

ALso why things like AGL golden frieza can take virtually scratch damage on anything. If he reduced damage received total, it would make a 100k normal to still 10k damage taken (90%), but if you think about it as I said, it would mean the the 100k normal would be reduced before comparing to GF's defense, so you'd be comparing a 10k atk (10% of the original) to GF's like 30-40k off the top of my head defense, equaling scratch damage.
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The Mana Sword
10/12/20 1:08:32 PM
#407:


I guess that makes some amount of sense. There are so many moving parts to Dokkan's combat math, it's hard to keep track of sometimes, so I generally just boil it down to very simple terms of "tank unit take attack" most of the time. Which usually works. I should have just used a Princess Snake anyway, but I was getting greedy and thought I could finish without any items.

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swordz9
10/12/20 3:46:23 PM
#408:


1 stone away from a Gohan multi
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The Mana Sword
10/12/20 3:48:13 PM
#409:


swordz9 posted...
1 stone away from a STR Gohan multi


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swordz9
10/12/20 4:05:31 PM
#410:


Bold of you to assume Ill get a featured :(
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swordz9
10/12/20 8:12:43 PM
#411:


Did my multi. Got STR Toppo dupe like 6 or something (hes SA4 all paths already...)

I did get PHY Tien who was just put on the LR Vegito banner. Dont mind that since Tien is cool. No Piccolo or new Gohan hurts though :(
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swordz9
10/12/20 8:17:06 PM
#412:


Oh, I dont even have Tiens medals. Makes sense. When you pull 0 new units you dont really need to play the DF stage >_>
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skullbone
10/13/20 2:43:40 AM
#413:


Wow I hit 122 million on my first chain battle attempt this time around and it's top 7%. This one is a joke compared to the last one

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The Mana Sword
10/13/20 7:24:14 AM
#414:


I only got 87 mil on my first shot, which I thought was going to be a good setup. Chain Battle is still poop.

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swordz9
10/13/20 11:58:06 AM
#415:


Got 139M my first try :O
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The Mana Sword
10/13/20 12:08:02 PM
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swordz9
10/13/20 12:21:00 PM
#417:


I used a 0 dupe LR GoBros attacker and had the +500 ATK bronze skill orb on it. I found a dude who had rainbow GoBros and an extra at TUR so thats probably why I got such a high score
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skullbone
10/13/20 12:49:55 PM
#418:


I thought the stats only mattered on your Attacker and none of the other stats matter? You just want to pick the friend with as many red shiny units as possible and then when you're actually playing you want to pick the 3 cards that link together the best.

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The Mana Sword
10/13/20 12:55:55 PM
#419:


Your friends' units stats matter, which is why it's better to have rainbow friends.

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skullbone
10/13/20 1:10:18 PM
#420:


Alright so looking through the guide it does say that HP, ATK, and DEF of your friend units will affect your attack but I still think it's more important to pick red characters. I think that 6 crappy red characters will still do more damage than 6 rainbow blue characters.

I mean the strategy last time around was to pick as many Ult Gohans as possible (because they were red) and people were definitely not rainbowing some of those crappy Ult Gohan cards.

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The Mana Sword
10/13/20 1:16:57 PM
#421:


I don't think that's the case, red characters get a buff, but I think stats and their ability to link well with each other is more important. Like I said, most of the people I've seen post the highest scores have been picking 3 Cells.

But also this mode is still trash because the mechanics are complete nonsense.

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Emeraldegg
10/13/20 1:18:35 PM
#422:


Yeah like some of the top scorers last time were friggin LR hercule adn I don't think he was red? There was def a non-red character near the top, maybe SSJ3 Gotenks.
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skullbone
10/13/20 1:30:49 PM
#423:


Idk guys it's a garbage mode and I already got my 100 million missions so I'm not digging too deep into it

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GANON1025
10/13/20 1:43:50 PM
#424:


Its the thinking mans dokkan mode, wont be for everybody

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Masta Blasta
10/13/20 1:53:48 PM
#425:


I had buff buu all paths opened and heard the EZA was coming so I farmed him up and he was hitting like mid 500k on Cooler lead. EZA happened and he's almost at 3mil on rotation with cooler and all level 1 links. I wish I pulled LR buuhan. Majin team is about to be nuts.

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The Mana Sword
10/13/20 11:42:46 PM
#426:


Hit 126.5 mil today with my optimal setup, I think. Might be able to squeeze out a bit more later this week if I get a little better luck, but Im mostly content with that. In top 4% now, goal is to stay top 10%.

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The Mana Sword
10/14/20 12:06:15 AM
#427:


also what the fuck are the drop rates for the awakening medals to awaken this shitty nappa. 100 stamina with 0 of the goku ones

oh god I was doing it wrong

f my stamina

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swordz9
10/14/20 1:24:18 PM
#428:


This EZA Raditz stage sucks. What even are these team options
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skullbone
10/14/20 1:28:51 PM
#429:


The Mana Sword posted...
also what the fuck are the drop rates for the awakening medals to awaken this shitty nappa. 100 stamina with 0 of the goku ones

oh god I was doing it wrong

f my stamina

I read this post yesterday and processed it in my brain. And then I also spent 100 stamina trying to get Goku drops before I realized that I was also doing it wrong.

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The Mana Sword
10/14/20 1:30:25 PM
#430:


I haven't found it too hard. I lost once on the 25 stamina stage because I got a really bad rotation, but I'm using

TEQ Kaioken Goku
PHY Vegeta
PHY Butoden Goku
LR Krillin
EZA Raditz
Shit Nappa

Butoden Goku deals a ton of damage, and Raditz and Krillin tank quite well. As long as Nappa doesn't nailed with a super it's not too bad.

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swordz9
10/14/20 1:32:25 PM
#431:


I ended up going with PHY Vegeta for a leader, but the options for team members mostly sucks.

PHY Vegeta
LR Krillin
Butoden Goku
PHY Nappa from Baba Shop
Raditz
INT Nappa
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The Mana Sword
10/14/20 1:34:51 PM
#432:


Yeah, if I was using 1 more PHY unit I'd probably use Vegeta, but I don't have that Baba one, so Goku hits 4/7 units on the team.

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skullbone
10/14/20 9:35:05 PM
#433:


Probably my last multi on the Gohan banner got me INT Demigra

:-(

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GANON1025
10/14/20 9:57:54 PM
#434:


If anything, there's too MANY characters to choose from for the Raditz EZA

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skullbone
10/14/20 10:01:25 PM
#435:


Yeah I thought this one was pretty easy, probably because most of the usable units were PHY

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GANON1025
10/15/20 8:13:43 AM
#436:


I have PHY Saiyan Saga Vegeta rainbowed, he completely demolishes the fight.

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The Mana Sword
10/15/20 8:47:48 AM
#437:


Finished awakening Launch and Oceanus, and I finally read the passive on Launch. She seems kind of crazy.

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Masta Blasta
10/15/20 3:23:04 PM
#438:


So is Raditz level 3 the new stage to level links up? Or does the stamina in 23-8 still put it over?

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The Mana Sword
10/15/20 3:26:02 PM
#439:


I think 23-8 is still probably better because of the stamina, plus incidental incredible gems are more useful than whatever you get on the Raditz stage.

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Emeraldegg
10/15/20 3:47:18 PM
#440:


The Mana Sword posted...
Hit 126.5 mil today with my optimal setup, I think. Might be able to squeeze out a bit more later this week if I get a little better luck, but Im mostly content with that. In top 4% now, goal is to stay top 10%.

Can I ask what 3 units you used during the battle was for this? If eel like this phase is the one I'm failing at too hard
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swordz9
10/15/20 3:49:25 PM
#441:


Im hearing its best to select 3 Cells during the fight. Preferably rainbow INT LR Cell, rainbow TEQ Cell and rainbow EZA INT Cell.
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Emeraldegg
10/15/20 3:51:34 PM
#442:


Gotcha, I'll give that a shot then
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The Mana Sword
10/15/20 4:09:40 PM
#443:


Yeah, what swordz said. The Cells all link better than the kamehameha units so theyre ideal. I think LR INT, LR PHY and EZA INT might be the actual best? But any 3 perfect Cell should be your best option.

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skullbone
10/15/20 4:10:52 PM
#444:


For my 122 million run I linked EZA Goku, Goten, and Gohan. The optimal Cells link at 31 but linking the family is 28 so not too bad if you see that.

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Emeraldegg
10/15/20 4:11:42 PM
#445:


I assume the best attacking unit is LR GoBros though?
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swordz9
10/15/20 4:13:39 PM
#446:


PHY LR Cell doesnt have any of those sparkles for whatever reason so I think that makes him less ideal to pick?
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The Mana Sword
10/15/20 4:16:53 PM
#447:


swordz9 posted...
PHY LR Cell doesnt have any of those sparkles for whatever reason so I think that makes him less ideal to pick?

You would think, but Ive actually seen people say hes better. The mode is baffling because of how obtuse it is.

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swordz9
10/15/20 4:20:13 PM
#448:


Huh, weird. Starting to think most people dont really know exactly how it works and all we have is best guesses
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skullbone
10/15/20 4:28:51 PM
#449:


The top post on the reddit right now is a guy who got a top score from misclicking during the battle:

https://i.redd.it/yf9vf7qxh9t51.jpg

Should probably just start fresh with this mode honestly. It's a mess

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swordz9
10/15/20 4:30:40 PM
#450:


Yeah, its a pretty boring mode. I wish they would bring back the raids. They only ever did like 1 or 2 of them, but they were more fun
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Emeraldegg
10/15/20 4:36:08 PM
#451:


Honestly I feel like an addition that would make the mode much easier to understand would be when you're selecting supporters right before the battle, is if they gave you more time and had some sort of synergy rating as you select supporters, so that you could see BEFORE accepting the trio how good they'll do. Kinda like how they do when you're selecting before the battle starts at all.
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