Board 8 > Tales of Crestoria topic 5 - .7% rate up gacha gamers

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_stingers_
08/18/20 7:39:29 PM
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ShatteredElysium
08/18/20 7:40:30 PM
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@Grimlyn Remember that Velvet gets a 50% boost in stats from the Kyle Memoria compared to the Sophie Memoria.
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_stingers_
08/18/20 7:40:43 PM
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@Grimlyn Isn't the fact Sophie is a water stone worse for Velvet then a pretty good wind?

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_stingers_
08/18/20 7:41:10 PM
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Oh no you beat me to it

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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 7:41:43 PM
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Gettin' there.



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_stingers_
08/18/20 7:42:44 PM
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I don't think I've seen either of those SSRs before

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ShatteredElysium
08/18/20 7:46:44 PM
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One is from the Guild Summon (at a crappy rate) and the other is from the Wind VH Raid (at an equally crappy rate)
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Grimlyn
08/18/20 7:50:58 PM
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lmao y'know what I forgot

the whole fact that mems only work to the unit they're assigned too

man it's still so hard to read the text and realize it doesn't mean the words it says
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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 8:00:52 PM
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I mean it does mean what it means, it's just easy to misread what it's saying. Nothing is technically innacurate.

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ShatteredElysium
08/18/20 8:05:11 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I mean it does mean what it means, it's just easy to misread what it's saying. Nothing is technically innacurate.

Whilst true it's incredibly misleading as they use identical wording for Awakening skills which then do apply to all allies.

Having the same wording mean 2 vastly different things in the same context is pretty bad. I'd imagine they will rectify it at some point
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Grimlyn
08/18/20 8:05:19 PM
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well another way of looking at it is that it's the same wording used for Character Awakening buffs which do mean the plural application interpretation!

*edit* yeah what Shattered said better
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Zigzagoon
08/18/20 8:08:18 PM
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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 8:09:03 PM
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It's not perfect, but compared to what a joke the translation was in beta...

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MysteriousStan
08/18/20 8:32:06 PM
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Oh hey just got Ludger. That's fun! Gets to join Velvet, Cress, Rita, Jude, Lloyd, and Chronos. Still no fire SSRs though!

Definitely gonna be more proactive in the limited quest this time.

Gotta work on some of these memoria stones too but I dunno which ones to level up!
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_stingers_
08/18/20 8:33:55 PM
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I haven't leveled up any stones yet besides the event stones that I could get to max and the SSR stones I've found cuz I figure they'll be good no matter what. But I want to work on the dark dualswords guy that everyone is making subgrids with next since I have 4 of him already

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MysteriousStan
08/18/20 8:37:42 PM
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Yeah everyone has all these Judas stones and I don't have any. =/
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_stingers_
08/18/20 9:46:48 PM
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What does all of the gold donated to the guild get used for?

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Grimlyn
08/18/20 9:48:12 PM
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guild-wide boosts

https://talesofcrestoria.fandom.com/wiki/Guild#Guild_Boosts

we just spent 10mil on 1% Atk all
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_stingers_
08/18/20 9:52:46 PM
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Oh nice. Thats a really cool feature

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Zigzagoon
08/18/20 9:52:47 PM
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I wonder what we should get next

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_stingers_
08/18/20 9:56:41 PM
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Either the next attack up boosts or the elemental OL gauge boosts seem the most useful

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Mega Mana
08/18/20 10:15:46 PM
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From Yankees Last Topic:
That's one buff Rita.

Why aren't you using 9 swords in the grid?

I haven't gotten two swords up as high as I'd like, and those two gave better stats than anything else I tried. I really want to 9 sword, but I'm still some ascensions away from that happening.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 10:21:23 PM
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At that point, you will get much, much better stats from the grid even if those two swords are bad, almost certainly.

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Yankees
08/18/20 10:35:28 PM
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9 swords give :
25% hp, 10% atk, 10% def

7 swords and two artes give :
16% hp, 7% atk, 7% def

I think you are losing out

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Mega Mana
08/18/20 10:36:23 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
At that point, you will get much, much better stats from the grid even if those two swords are bad, almost certainly.

Are the stat bonuses reflected when adding or removing stones from the grid or on the characters themselves?

Let's see...



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Ah, I see! Lying substones!!

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Yankees
08/18/20 10:39:34 PM
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They are reflected on the characters themselves. It will show you a lower boost on the substone grid due to their lower level, but you should see better stats on your team.

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_stingers_
08/18/20 10:44:53 PM
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Do you guys convert all your rare stones into shards or do you max ascend them and try to level them up? I just hit the 500 stone cap and need to start getting rid of them somehow

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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 10:45:12 PM
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Basically, the percentages you see when you view what bonuses you are getting are the percentage of the numbers you see being applied to your characters.

The Sword Grid for example has 25% Health. If your Memoria grid showed a total of 10,000 health, that means each of your characters gets 2,500 additional health.

Taking away even one Sword totally tanks that percentage, so as such even if the numbers are way higher on the grid selection page it may be much worse for your characters.

Element plays into effect here as well, but it's not incredibly significant until it makes up most of your grid. I think a solid goal would be to try and get 9 of each of the Medal SRs so you can field a completely matching Element AND Type grid. I plan to eventually get 9 SR Fire Pascal for a Gun grid, for example, to use with my Fire team.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 10:46:07 PM
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_stingers_ posted...
Do you guys convert all your rare stones into shards or do you max ascend them and try to level them up? I just hit the 500 stone cap and need to start getting rid of them somehow

I get them to max Ascended so they can go to 80, and then shard the dupes.

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_stingers_
08/18/20 10:47:08 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I get them to max Ascended so they can go to 80, and then shard the dupes.
Is there any real reason for it though? Or just for collection purposes ?

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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 10:48:34 PM
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They're still good for the Substone grid, yes. My dual swords is an extreme example because I've intentionally made it my goal, most of my grids require me to field mostly Rs.

Except for Spear due to Alicia, because I have had 12 Alicia drops.....I'm spending a lot of effort trying to get more Keeles...

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_stingers_
08/18/20 10:52:43 PM
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Yeah I grinded a lot of light raids trying to get ascension materials for Estelle, never found a single Keele. Figure I'll need to just buy the keeles I need 2500 gold medals at a time. So that will take a few months

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_stingers_
08/18/20 10:53:36 PM
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Why do you want a substone Grid for each weapon though? I thought that the stat buffs were best for dualswords in general

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Yankees
08/18/20 11:02:21 PM
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I wish the spear substones provided a better bonus. I'm one short of four max ascended Alisha stone, but her attack focus doesn't work so well with spears.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/18/20 11:18:15 PM
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_stingers_ posted...
Why do you want a substone Grid for each weapon though? I thought that the stat buffs were best for dualswords in general

Depends on the situation.

I have to look at it again, but I think gun was better than Dual Swords.

Dual Swords is definitely the best right now due to the pool of Memoria currently available, but Martial Arts and Gun are great, and Longsword will be excellent once the pool is viable.

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ShatteredElysium
08/18/20 11:18:16 PM
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_stingers_ posted...
Why do you want a substone Grid for each weapon though? I thought that the stat buffs were best for dualswords in general

People go for dualswords because it gives the most attack via the farmable SR and SSR. It's lacking in HP and Defense though so it's very possible that it is made completely non viable by harder content hitting too hard to not be more defensive.
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_stingers_
08/19/20 12:33:24 AM
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hm. alright, I'll start saving copies of my rares then. Why not be a collectionist anyway, its more fun that way

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GentlemanGamer
08/19/20 8:23:05 AM
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I've decided to give up so feel free to remove me.
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_stingers_
08/19/20 9:28:31 AM
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Man I'm trying to beat the phantom tower now and these last 6 floors are hard. 25 and 26 took me a few tries and some team modifications, and now 27 I'm stuck on until I can upgrade a water unit besides summer rutee. Luckily I just got Sophie and a tank would be perfect right now, but I am absolutely broke after having to upgrade Luke to beat the last one. Guess I am going for 10ap for 50k gold a pop for the rest of my AP today

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ShatteredElysium
08/19/20 9:40:44 AM
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Are you using Wildfire? That makes things a lot easier as it essentially doubles your damage output when it's stuck on someone

I think Phantom Tower basically has 3 solutions right now.

1. Brute force
2. Excessive healing
3. Abusing status effects like Wildfire, Poison, Burn
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_stingers_
08/19/20 9:47:43 AM
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I have Level 100 Estelle and level 90 Misella so I think excessive healing is my win condition right now, lol. No Wildfire units that I know of. My units in general I've pulled are much more defensive. But on 27 you get poisoned and burned a lot and I've been having trouble healing through it. I wish I could generate some OL for Estelle but I don't have any good ways to do it

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UshiromiyaEva
08/19/20 10:45:49 AM
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Lol this Event raid.

I present to you the state of my party after running on Auto at work and nobody joining until I had already done 95% of the health bar. Please ignore the redlettermedia video overlaying.



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Yankees
08/19/20 12:24:47 PM
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_stingers_ posted...
I have Level 100 Estelle and level 90 Misella so I think excessive healing is my win condition right now, lol. No Wildfire units that I know of. My units in general I've pulled are much more defensive. But on 27 you get poisoned and burned a lot and I've been having trouble healing through it. I wish I could generate some OL for Estelle but I don't have any good ways to do it
Emil, Rokurou, and Rondaline are SR characters with access to wildfire. Emil is the best one for it.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/19/20 2:14:01 PM
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Already almost done with the event.

Please God I hope they never go the two currency route again.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/19/20 4:40:09 PM
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Got a other Karol Memoria.

At level 60 he already has significantly higher attack than any other Earth Memoria I have, lol.

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ShatteredElysium
08/19/20 4:40:50 PM
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My haul from guild summons is 1 Karol and 0 Spada
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UshiromiyaEva
08/19/20 4:48:47 PM
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Decided to drop 8 bucks to top myself off for another pull.



1 more!

Her Awakened skill is totally worthless for me right now though, lol.

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Zigzagoon
08/19/20 4:50:45 PM
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My haul from Guild Summons is 0 Karols and 0 Spadas

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Grimlyn
08/19/20 4:52:08 PM
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I got my 7th Karol the other day >_>

(no Spadas tho)

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UshiromiyaEva
08/19/20 4:53:40 PM
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The irony is that I'm actually desperate for SRs right now and my SR luck has been absolutely dreadful. In my last 5 pulls I've gotten 1 SR, Senel. Got Ruca from the event ticket. 3 pull from the Battle Pass was Malik and 2 Veigues. Nothing that actually matters on the character side of things at all.

The ONLY challenge I've had in Arena for weeks are full or near full SR teams, and they almost always nearly wipe me right off the bat or actually do. The only saving grave is Estelle, since once those teams blow their powerful full party status effect attack loads right off the bat, they don't have anything else to follow up with, and Estelle can save my ass.

A Zaveid/Dezel combo this morning killed Leon, Stahn, and Velvet simultaneously on turn 1. Have no fucking idea how I managed to pull it off after that, lol.

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