Current Events > which of these 2 watches should i buy?

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if i were to only buy one:

1:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2495/1712/files/Omega_38_large.jpg?v=1576608817

2:

https://hips.hearstapps.com/amv-prod-gp.s3.amazonaws.com/gearpatrol/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Monta-Atlas-GMT-Gear-Patrol-inline.jpg?resize=768:*
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top one.
or mail me some air force ones instead hehe

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Thanks. Anyone else?
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Id vote Omega. But are these watches the same size? Bigger watches dont look good on me. I dont wear anything bigger than 40mm. So Id go with the best fit.

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BeyondWalls posted...

Id vote Omega. But are these watches the same size? Bigger watches dont look good on me. I dont wear anything bigger than 40mm. So Id go with the best fit.

First is 38mm, 2nd is 38.5mm
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Get the Aqua Terra, costs like 3-4 times the Monta but will leave you more satisfied.

I'd say get the Omega Aqua Terra but the older Skyfall version with the date window at 3 with the 8500 movement

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-seamaster-aqua-terra-150m-omega-master-co-axial-41-5-mm-23110422103003

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winged_weltall posted...

Get the Aqua Terra

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winged_weltall posted...

Get the Aqua Terra, costs like 3-4 times the Monta but will leave you more satisfied.

I have the white aqua terra so I know I'll love it. Issue is the bracelet doesn't have micro adjustments. And I do love the color pop of the gmt hand on the monta

StarsOfCCTV posted...

I'd say get the Omega Aqua Terra but the older Skyfall version with the date window at 3 with the 8500 movement

https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-seamaster-aqua-terra-150m-omega-master-co-axial-41-5-mm-23110422103003

I prefer the newer version tbh, the horizontal teaking is much more pleasing than vertical
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Save money and buy a real Rolex or audemars piguet like a man

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TopKekBro posted...

Save money and buy a real Rolex or audemars piguet like a man

I dont like those brands, their designs are boring, the quality isn't up to par with what i want and the sizing is too large
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Guess I'll get the aqua terra, thanks for enabling my obsession CE
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Save money and don't buy a dumb pointless watch. (all watches are dumb and pointless BTW)

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Didnt you just lose all your money playing poker?

get consistent bud.

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I liked the Monta way, way better.

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No_U_L7 posted...

I dont like those brands, their designs are boring, the quality isn't up to par with what i want and the sizing is too large

lmao

Rolex and Audemars are a tier above the stuff youre asking about

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p-m posted...

Save money and don't buy a dumb pointless watch. (all watches are dumb and pointless BTW)

I love watches

CanuckCowboy posted...

Didnt you just lose all your money playing poker?

get consistent bud.

All my money for that buy in...which was $50

Not literally all my money in my posession....that would be irresponsible

DespondentDeity posted...

I liked the Monta way, way better.

It is nice...hmm..

TopKekBro posted...

lmao

Rolex and Audemars are a tier above the stuff youre asking about

And yet rolex doesn't use AR coating
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No_U_L7 posted...

I love watches

And yet rolex doesn't use AR coating

this proves you dont really know about watches.

its not about the bells and whistles. You can get a Casio with a calculator and that can tell you the sea tide levels for 1/10th the price.

you can buy an Apple Watch that can answer phone calls, have Apple Pay, a calculator, apps such as uber, text messages, etc for like 1/10th of the price too

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TopKekBro posted...

this proves you dont really know about watches.

its not about the bells and whistles. You can get a Casio with a calculator and that can tell you the sea tide levels for 1/10th the price.

you can buy an Apple Watch that can answer phone calls, have Apple Pay, a calculator, apps such as uber, text messages, etc for like 1/10th of the price too

How ironic that you just revealed your ignorance of watches in that post accusing me of lacking knowledge of watches

Please inform me of why rolex and audemars are so top tier, I could use a laugh
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Do you own any tag heuers?

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CanuckCowboy posted...

Do you own any tag heuers?

no, they don't make it in a size appropriate for my wrists
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No_U_L7 posted...

no, they don't make it in a size appropriate for my wrists

You can get em re-sized can you not?

i aint got buy a watch as a fashion accessory money and if i did i could never wear it at work or doing half the shit i do for fun anyways but if i did id get a tag.

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AR coating looks like dog shit after a few years

Rolex >>>> omega
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CanuckCowboy posted...

You can get em re-sized can you not?

i aint got buy a watch as a fashion accessory money and if i did i could never wear it at work or doing half the shit i do for fun anyways but if i did id get a tag.

i'm not talking about the bracelet, i'm talking about the watch head

the aqua racer looks nice but is only available in bigger sizes

watches, even luxury watches are still just things. wear it and enjoy it, if it gets banged up a little that's part of life. if you do anything that rough, just get a cheaper beater watch for that duty.
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DoomtheGrav posted...

AR coating looks like dog shit after a few years

Rolex >>>> omega

i've only had mine for 6 months, but after a deep dive, that seems to be a myth. you have to really try to scratch the outter AR coating and even then it's only noticeable from certain angles. if you have a different experience, please let me know

but outter AR coating is not the deal breaker...it's the lack of inner AR coating that kills rolex for me. there is no excuse on a watch at that price point
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No_U_L7 posted...

How ironic that you just revealed your ignorance of watches in that post accusing me of lacking knowledge of watches

Please inform me of why rolex and audemars are so top tier, I could use a laugh

maybe they would not be watches of your interest. I mean they dont do pew pew pew or stuff like that.

if you seriously want to get educated on what makes a top tier luxury watch let me know

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TopKekBro posted...

maybe they would not be watches of your interest. I mean they dont do pew pew pew or stuff like that.

if you seriously want to get educated on what makes a top tier luxury watch let me know

go ahead, make my day
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No_U_L7 posted...

go ahead, make my day

this attitude tells me you dont want to learn and you will mock whatever I say

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TopKekBro posted...

this attitude tells me you dont want to learn and you will mock whatever I say

sounds like you arent confident you can make a compelling argument
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No_U_L7 posted...

sounds like you arent confident you can make a compelling argument

ok will you have an open mind or not?

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TopKekBro posted...

ok will you have an open mind or not?

i always do
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No_U_L7 posted...

i always do

damn it.

I really tried to give you a chance

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TopKekBro posted...

damn it.

I really tried to give you a chance

lmao ok pal, whatever you say
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No_U_L7 posted...

lmao ok pal, whatever you say

if you change your mind and want to learn hit me up

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Get the top one.

Also, good for buying a real watch, not a wrist-mounted computer.

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In regards to AR coating, I'd have to agree that it definitely isn't a selling point. Rolex themselves said they don't use AR coating because the AR coating used in the industry isn't up to the standard they are happy with. I own Rolex, Breitling, and an Omega and a few other watches and I have to say I like the fact that my Rolex doesn't use AR coating. The AR coating on my Breitling Navitimer has 2 or 3 really small scratches (barely noticeable) that are kind of annoying when noticed, but my Breitling Emergency has a very noticeable scratch (even looks like a smudge) that happened back in 2016, I didn't even notice it happen...

No_U_L7 posted...

I dont like those brands, their designs are boring, the quality isn't up to par with what i want and the sizing is too large

When talking about AP, yeah I can agree. Spending 24k retail for a stainless steel watch is a little stupid, let's not even talk about market value. I'm obviously referring to the Royal Oak, because at this point, it's the only thing AP has going for it. Regarding Rolex, I don't think you can say the quality isn't good. They are arguably the most robust movements on the market. Their movements are the most tested on the whole market and the quality is outstanding. The problem nowadays is that you can't get any of the interesting models due to the hype around the brand. The design is something no one can argue with, subjectivity etc.

winged_weltall posted...

In regards to AR coating, I'd have to agree that it definitely isn't a selling point. Rolex themselves said they don't use AR coating because the AR coating used in the industry isn't up to the standard they are happy with. I own Rolex, Breitling, and an Omega and a few other watches and I have to say I like the fact that my Rolex doesn't use AR coating. The AR coating on my Breitling Navitimer has 2 or 3 really small scratches (barely noticeable) that are kind of annoying when noticed, but my Breitling Emergency has a very noticeable scratch (even looks like a smudge) that happened back in 2016, I didn't even notice it happen...

When talking about AP, yeah I can agree. Spending 24k retail for a stainless steel watch is a little stupid, let's not even talk about market value. I'm obviously referring to the Royal Oak, because at this point, it's the only thing AP has going for it. Regarding Rolex, I don't think you can say the quality isn't good. They are arguably the most robust movements on the market. Their movements are the most tested on the whole market and the quality is outstanding. The problem nowadays is that you can't get any of the interesting models due to the hype around the brand. The design is something no one can argue with, subjectivity etc.

AR coating is extremely important to me. Its not hard to put a layer under the glass. Lack of AR makes watches look cheap

Omegas movements are extremely robust as well

And rolex hardly has any 38mm watches, even if i did like their designs
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No_U_L7 posted...

AR coating is extremely important to me. Its not hard to put a layer under the glass. Lack of AR makes watches look cheap

Omegas movements are extremely robust as well

And rolex hardly has any 38mm watches, even if i did like their designs

kek.

top kek bro.

have you ever held a Rolex, audemars, Patek or Cartier in your hands?


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No_U_L7 posted...

i've only had mine for 6 months, but after a deep dive, that seems to be a myth. you have to really try to scratch the outter AR coating and even then it's only noticeable from certain angles. if you have a different experience, please let me know

but outter AR coating is not the deal breaker...it's the lack of inner AR coating that kills rolex for me. there is no excuse on a watch at that price point

Below is my Breitling I was mentioning before with the damaged AR coating. And regarding inner AR coating, in the case of my Rolex Explorer II Polar an inner AR coating would ruin the dial color as the nice white dial would be overshadowed by a blue touch.

TC, you mentioned already owning an Aqua Terra, why get a second one with the same movement? Have you considered a Grand Seiko? There are 37mm iterations that are fantastic value props, with movements and finishing matching Swiss watches worth well into the 5 digits.

https://imgur.com/VS2Uije

winged_weltall posted...

Below is my Breitling I was mentioning before with the damaged AR coating. And regarding inner AR coating, in the case of my Rolex Explorer II Polar an inner AR coating would ruin the dial color as the nice white dial would be overshadowed by a blue touch.

TC, you mentioned already owning an Aqua Terra, why get a second one with the same movement? Have you considered a Grand Seiko? There are 37mm iterations that are fantastic value props, with movements and finishing matching Swiss watches worth well into the 5 digits.

https://imgur.com/MpQqWKi

Damn you must have worn that thing hard

It is possible to make completely clear AR coating, without blue or green tint

I couldn't find any grand seiko around 38mm that were automatic. Everything at that size was quartz

I really like the proportions and looks of the AT, wouldnt mind double dipping as blue is my favorite color
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TopKekBro posted...

have you ever held a Rolex, audemars, Patek or Cartier in your hands?

Honestly, I get why he would choose an Omega over a Rolex. I own both brands, and while I love Rolex, and can totally get why someone would choose an Omega over a Rolex. Waiting lists for one, interesting Rolex models these days have like a 2-10+ year waiting list. Second, there is not a single Rolex with a display caseback, which isn't a deal breaker for me, but might be for someone else. Third, even if there was a display caseback, the movements on a Rolex aren't really pretty. Robust and excellent quality? Yes. But the Omega Manufacture calibers (like the 8500) are prettier and have nicer finishing, although this is mostly Omega wants the movements to look pretty because you can actually see them.

The other brands you mentioned, AP, one trick pony with the Royal Oak, and the Royal Oak Offshore is pretty hideous. 8+ year waiting lists for the non chronograph Royal Oaks as well kills it. And 22-40k for a steel sports model? Talk about inflated pricing... The quality is good and the finishing is a league above Omega, but the price is still pretty bananas IMO. Don't even get me started on the Code 1159 who's dial looks like a piece of garbage comparable to a Daniel Wellington or a Michael Kors. It does have a nice case though.

Cartier has mostly dressy watches, with the sports models not being close to as nice as Omega, but that's my opinion. The quality is great, but I wouldn't say it's a notch above Omega at all.

Patek is one of those super expensive brands which has the maximum amount of brand prestige in the industry (mostly what you pay for). Anything Nautilus, unobtainable (a common theme in this comment, I know), and dressier models being overpriced for the quality. Great quality and finishing but A. Lange & Shne costs half as much for a higher quality watch.

In the end, you can never go wrong with Omega if you're looking for a Swiss watch at a respectable price. Great heritage, great quality, great designs (opinions will differ), good warranty, excellent accuracy.

No_U_L7 posted...

Damn you must have worn that thing hard

It is possible to make completely clear AR coating, without blue or green tint

I couldn't find any grand seiko around 38mm that were automatic. Everything at that size was quartz

I really like the proportions and looks of the AT, wouldnt mind double dipping as blue is my favorite color

Honestly not really. I didn't even notice when it happened. I was on vacation in Japan and always wear my watches carefully. I just came back to the hotel and the smudge was just there. The Navitimer has smaller scratches, but it happened when I accidentally touched the crystal with the bottom of my coffee mug. You know how the ring on the bottom of the coffee mug has a rough texture? That was enough to create 2-3 adjacent scratches on my sapphire crystal :/ Thanks AR coating.

Unfortunately AR coating always has a bit of color. It's not bothersome at all with certain watches, especially if you have a blue dial. But I find it really depends on what watch you're getting.

There's plenty of models that size that are automatic. Go on Chrono24 and filter the options. Put in 37-39mm and automatic movement and plenty of options will show up. The SBGR053 comes to mind as it's a watch I want to purchase in the future.

winged_weltall posted...

Honestly, I get why he would choose an Omega over a Rolex. I own both brands, and while I love Rolex, and can totally get why someone would choose an Omega over a Rolex. Waiting lists for one, interesting Rolex models these days have like a 2-10+ year waiting list. Second, there is not a single Rolex with a display caseback, which isn't a deal breaker for me, but might be for someone else. Third, even if there was a display caseback, the movements on a Rolex aren't really pretty. Robust and excellent quality? Yes. But the Omega Manufacture calibers (like the 8500) are prettier and have nicer finishing, although this is mostly because you can actually see them.

The other brands you mentioned, AP, one trick pony with the Royal Oak, and the Royal Oak Offshore is pretty hideous. 8+ year waiting lists for the non chronograph Royal Oaks as well kills it. Don't even get me started on the Code 1159 who's dial looks like a piece of garbage comparable to a Daniel Wellington or a Michael Kors. It does have a nice case though.

Cartier has mostly dressy watches, with the sports models not being close to as nice as Omega, but that's my opinion. The quality is great, but I wouldn't say it's a notch above Omega at all.

Patek is one of those super expensive brands which has the maximum amount of brand prestige in the industry (mostly what you pay for). Anything Nautilus, unobtainable (a common theme in this comment, I know), and dressier models being overpriced for the quality. Great quality and finishing but A. Lange & Shne costs half as much for a higher quality watch.

In the end, you can never go wrong with Omega if you're looking for a Swiss watch at a respectable price. Great heritage, great quality, great designs (opinions will differ), good warranty, excellent accuracy.

it bothers me that Rolex has no display case backs, it is because theyre too proud of their osyter case.

while their oyster case means theyre better waterproofed, it also means their movements can afford to be less pretty since you wont see them.

your post shows how much you know about watches. Its the opposite from TCs no bells and whistles lol


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winged_weltall posted...

SBGR053

Not bad but too plain for my tastes. The AT and even the monta have a ton of personality
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Neither. I dont wear a watch (obsolete tech unless youre out in the woods or something) but if i had to, id never wear those boomer-style ones. Go tacticool or gtfo.

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Spooking posted...

Make sure to shave your arm, however, as arm hair is... unsightly.

Don't worry, I don't grow arm hair
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TopKekBro posted...

it bothers me that Rolex has no display case backs, it is because theyre too proud of their osyter case.

while their oyster case means theyre better waterproofed, it also means their movements can afford to be less pretty since you wont see them.

It used to bother me, but I've come to respect that they do what they believe is best, regardless of what people want. It really is a hardcore tool watch which is somehow still ultra luxurious. "Display back is cool, but does it serve a practical function? No. So leave it out." It's baffling to many, but it's hard not to respect a brand that's still so inherently function oriented and has the quality (movement and build) to back it up.

winged_weltall posted...

It used to bother me, but I've come to respect that they do what they believe is best, regardless of what people want. It really is a hardcore tool watch which is somehow still ultra luxurious. "Display back is cool, but does it serve a practical function? No. So leave it out." It's baffling to many, but it's hard not to respect a brand that's still so inherently function oriented and has the quality (movement and build) to back it up.

display casebacks are awesome, and they let a watchmaker brag about how pretty and intricate their movements are.

they interfere with real serious waterproofing, though, like, diving grade, and this is why the sky fall 007 omega (limited edition) is such a remarkable watch, its waterproof beyond 200M (600m or something like that) while still having a display case back.

that watch was 6k at least when new, so now its probably worth even more, since its a limited run

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