Current Events > Pretty crazy the worlds come to a halt for a disease with a 3.7% fatality rate

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Imagine if something really devastating were to ravage through the population

Like imagine the chaos if something like ebola were as widespread and infectious, killing a third of the people infected. What kind of chaos would that sow?

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Vote for hairy legs

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Yeah , it could have been a lot worse

which considering the right wing reacting to it, makes it terrifying
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It only comes to a halt cause morons can't follow less restrictive directions.

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HIV had a 100% death rate. This disease's issue is the long terms health problems and economic damage.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Imagine if something really devastating were to ravage through the population

Like imagine the chaos if something like ebola were as widespread and infectious, killing a third of the people infected. What kind of chaos would that sow?

ebola is not that infectious cuz it kills the host too quickly.

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Thing is, people have been saying its a 1% mortality rate. Now its 3.7%? Is that gonna keep going up?

Moreover,

Shadowplay posted...

This disease's issue is the long term health problems

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Imagine if something really devastating were to ravage through the population

Like imagine the chaos if something like ebola were as widespread and infectious, killing a third of the people infected. What kind of chaos would that sow?

We had that already. It was called smallpox. If they found out you had it. They would nail boards to block every exit in your house and wait for you to die.

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The black death was a soros funded hoax

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Smackems posted...

The black death was a soros funded hoax

I cannot think of a single more destructive and horrific event in human history than the black death.

Of course these days the cure is just two weeks of penicillin but they didn't know that back then.

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Smackems posted...

The black death was a soros funded hoax

Bill Gates will stop the black death.

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there's 7,800,000,000 people in the world

3% of that is 261,000,000

but that's not a big deal, right?

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I cannot think of a single more destructive and horrific event in human history than the black death.

Of course these days the cure is just two weeks of penicillin but they didn't know that back then.

Penicillin is a lie. Every patriot knows the only treatment is a good leach and blood letting

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Smackems posted...

Penicillin is a lie. Every patriot knows the only treatment is a good leach and blood letting

Medical advice during the black death included such gems of wisdom like "don't bathe" and "don't get any fresh air"

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Shablagoo posted...

Thing is, people have been saying its a 1% mortality rate. Now its 3.7%? Is that gonna keep going up?

Moreover,

My number is purely based off of googling the number of reported fatalities and dividing that by the reported number of cases worldwide

It definitely should not be taken has a hard statistic.

It's also worth noting, that while fatalities fluctuate, they've generally plateaued since April while total number of cases has continued to rise.

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Tyranthraxus posted...

I cannot think of a single more destructive and horrific event in human history than the black death.

Of course these days the cure is just two weeks of penicillin but they didn't know that back then.

black death killed so many peasants in europe that the ones who survived gained significantly more social and bargaining power, leading to challenges to the feudal status quo and eventually leading to the reformation and enlightenment which birthed modern western civilization.

it wasn't all bad.

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But but the flu!

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TwoDoorPC posted...

there's 7,800,000,000 people in the world

3% of that is 261,000,000

but that's not a big deal, right?

Okay, if you want to play that game. The total number of confirmed cases is around 20 million. So that's around a quarter of a percent of the world population.

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What does it smell like inside your bubble?

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1.5 million Americans were estimated to die if we didnt lock down, thats not a big deal to you? We blew up the Middle East over a few thousand people

Kinny100 posted...

black death killed so many peasants in europe that the ones who survived gained significantly more social and bargaining power, leading to challenges to the feudal status quo and eventually leading to the reformation and enlightenment which birthed modern western civilization.

it wasn't all bad.

I'm sure they're all very happy about that......

Lol, god damn. This might be the one of the most callous things I've ever read

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Okay, if you want to okay that game. The total number of confirmed cases is around 20 million. So that's around a quarter of a percent of the world population.

because people have been taking precautions instead of letting it run rampant through their country (except usa)

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TC sounds like such a bad person that calling him a person would be unreasonable.
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This is an aside, but something interesting I always found about the Black Plague is that monks in monasteries who brewed cider experienced infection at a far lower rate than the monks of other monasteries that made stuff like wine (and the rest of the population in general, of course).

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I'm sure they're all very happy about that......

Lol, god damn. This might be the one of the most callous things I've ever read

sucks for ppl who died, but this is the current academic consensus.

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TwoDoorPC posted...

because people have been taking precautions instead of letting it run rampant through their country (except usa)

The country who probably handled it best was where it originated from. Unfortunately we tend to frown on the government welding us inside of our homes in this part of the world. I guess that's a bad thing now, welcome to 2020

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DeadBankerDream posted...

TC sounds like such a bad person that calling him a person would be unreasonable.

What have I said that's "bad"

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Everyone knows a disease can only kill you or do absolutely nothing. No in betweens

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hockeybub89 posted...

Everyone knows a disease can only kill you or do absolutely nothing. No in betweens

Never said that. But that data is extreamly inconclusive for the time being.

I can't imagine a far deadlier disease would generally have a better prognosis for future health though

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If we didn't close down and quarantine the mortality rate would have been much higher.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

What have I said that's "bad"

You keep downplaying the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, potential deaths of millions and the (successful) efforts to prevent them.

That's pretty bad

I mean "Thanks to lockdowns and social distancing that we shouldn't have done we only know of 20 million people who have caught it so who cares if 750 thousand of them die?" mentality is just weird logic on like 4 different levels
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Less than 3000 deaths during 9/11 was such a big deal to America, but hundreds of thousands of deaths due to covid is nothing. Why is that?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

You keep downplaying the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, potential deaths of millions and the (successful) efforts to prevent them.

That's pretty bad

I mean "Thanks to lockdowns and social distancing that we shouldn't have done we only know of 20 million people who have caught it so who cares if 750 thousand of them die?" mentality is just weird logic on like 4 different levels

I haven't downplayed anything. The whole point of the topic was how would society react to a pandemic of a disease with a fatality rate ten fold of this one.

Nowhere did I say this isn't important. So any implications of "downplaying" was created in your own head.

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LightningAce11 posted...

Less than 3000 deaths during 9/11 was such a big deal to America, but hundreds of thousands of deaths due to covid is nothing. Why is that?

Cause they were violently murdered by terrorists and not and an indiscriminate virus? And have absolutely nothing to do with each other. How has this dumb point been brought up twice in one short topic as if it's a profound line of thinking?

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I haven't downplayed anything. The whole point of the topic was how would society react to a pandemic of a disease with a fatality rate ten fold of this one.

uhuh

Pretty crazy the worlds come to a halt for a disease with a 3.7% fatality rate

Imagine if something really devastating were to ravage through the population

Solid Snake07 posted...

It's also worth noting, that while fatalities fluctuate, they've generally plateaued since April while total number of cases has continued to rise.

Solid Snake07 posted...

there's 7,800,000,000 people in the world

3% of that is 261,000,000

but that's not a big deal, right?

Okay, if you want to play that game. The total number of confirmed cases is around 20 million. So that's around a quarter of a percent of the world population.

Uhuh.

Yeah no downplaying here . Just posts about a hypothetical scenario of a pandemic with a worse mortality rate....

Why lie when everyone can see? its weird
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UnfairRepresent posted...

uhuh

Uhuh.

Yeah no downplaying here . Just posts about a hypothetical scenario of a pandemic with a worse mortality rate....

Why lie when everyone can see? its weird

Illustrating that proportions could very realistically be a lot worse in a topic about "what if this were worse" isnt downplaying. But whatever helps you feel superior buddy.

God damn you guys are desperate

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Maybe I'm a dummy here but wouldn't a deadlier disease often times slow down infection rates since the disease will kill their hosts generally before they can spread it to other people? Like in your Ebola example, it kills things far too quickly for it to spread all that much. That's a main reason why it's not too widespread atm

But if there were a godlike disease that's able to be both being extremely infectious (like an R0 of 20) and deadly (like a 50% kill rate) then humanity as we know it would be extremely fucked. It's every person for themselves at that point
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3.7% of the world's population is something like 300 million people.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Illustrating that proportions could very realistically be a lot worse in a topic about "what if this were worse" isnt downplaying. But whatever helps you feel superior buddy.

God damn you guys are desperate

lol you didn't say "What if this were worse"

You said all the dumb downplaying shit I quoted

Your own lies criticize yourself
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Ballinari posted...

Maybe I'm a dummy here but wouldn't a deadlier disease often times slow down infection rates since the disease will kill their hosts generally before they can spread it to other people? Like in your Ebola example, it kills things far too quickly for it to spread all that much. That's a main reason why it's not too widespread atm

But if there were a godlike disease that's able to be both being extremely infectious (like an R0 of 20) and deadly (like a 50% kill rate) then humanity as we know it would be extremely fucked. It's every person for themselves at that point

Maybe, i guess it would depend how long it took to kill the host and how contagious it was.

But the bubonic plague could kill in a day or two and still spread through most of Europe, but they were far more ignorant as to how disease spread back then as well. So something that could make it's host sick longer, or even worse sit dormant for a period of time would probably be a bigger threat in modern times

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UnfairRepresent posted...

lol you didn't say "What if this were worse"

You said all the dumb downplaying shit I quoted

Your own lies criticize yourself

Yeah, yeah. We get it. You care and I don't. Go jerk yourself off thinking about what a good person you desperately want to think you are already.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Yeah, yeah. We get it. You care and I don't. Go jerk yourself off thinking about what a good person you desperately want to think you are already.

lol

When exposed go for the ad hominem

Really helps your case that you weren't downplaying anything by downplaying everything with insults and lies
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UnfairRepresent posted...

lol

When exposed go for the ad hominem

Really helps your case that you weren't downplaying anything by downplaying everything with insults and lies

Inaccurate accusations of logical fallacies is very 10 years ago of you. Are you gonna accusing me of strawmanning you next? Lol

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No just the blatant lying and insulting

I mean you haven't even presented a point to be a strawman, you've just downplayed covid and efforts to hinder it for 40 posts
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Dont forget its recurring. So youre not just rolling that >3% chance once, youre doing it several times.

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I heard its pretty serious

Seems pretty devastating to me.
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lurk posted...

1.5 million Americans were estimated to die if we didnt lock down, thats not a big deal to you? We blew up the Middle East over a few thousand people

A number based on nothing but wild eyed speculation.

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TC proving that older accounts get mod protection and can post what they want without consequence and im saying that as an older account.

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