Poll of the Day > Transgender WOMAN shows off TRANSFORMATION! Are they better as MALE or FEMALE???

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mrduckbear 08/12/20 12:23:25 AM #1:	Was Natalie better looking as a male or is better now as a female? Better looking as a male Better looking now as a female Was Natalie better looking as a male or is better now as a female? - Results (68 votes) Better looking as a male 89.71% (61 votes) 61 Better looking now as a female 10.29% (7 votes) 7 28 y/o Natalie Zamani from San Francisco revealed her incredible transformation pictures after 14 months of hormone replacement therapy and facial feminization surgery!! She posted on Reddit last week to share images of herself from her transition writing "So it's kinda been a wild 14 months! I was 27 i had a great job in tech, a lovely relationship and had built up confidence in my life. Life was good, but yet i was still not at home in my body. I realized i couldn't outrun my identity and expect to live a full life" The senior engineer has known she was trans since she was a teen but kept it hidden until last year Her before photo shows her sporting a typical clean cut male but she knew knew early on she was suppressing her true identity with girly tendencies coming out and was disgusted after puberty hit when masculine features started poppin gout She did research and found other people like her and chosen to do something about it finally after learning what it was like to be trans She found that many lived difficult lives finding themselves and keeping it in wasn't helping them so last year she amde the decision to finally transition now that the acceptance of trans people shifted in her older eyars In April she officially started living as April amid the covid-19 pandemic after having this time to reflect on her life and she shared the pictures on instagram and although an expensive procedure, she is proud to be Natalie from now on and is grateful for the people who supported her. Was Natalie better looking as a male or is hotter as a female? Female Natalie - https://i.imgur.com/DHXPVEn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ua0L2kE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/npyaea8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CKwUsmD.jpg Male "Natalie" - https://i.imgur.com/oEOSYlO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Sc2QcZI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hXTEW11.jpg https://i.imgur.com/X7ChuO2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KoWschZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PMdtHAB.jpg --- The Users have Spoken. News Will Continue...For Now <cite>mrduckbear posted [p:943280327] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote> Was Natalie better looking as a male or is better now as a female? Better looking as a male Better looking now as a female Vote View Results Was Natalie better looking as a male or is better now as a female? - Results (68 votes) Better looking as a male 89.71% (61 votes) 61 Better looking now as a female 10.29% (7 votes) 7 Show Voting Form 28 y/o Natalie Zamani from San Francisco revealed her incredible transformation pictures after 14 months of hormone replacement therapy and facial feminization surgery!! She posted on Reddit last week to share images of herself from her transition writing "So it's kinda been a wild 14 months! I was 27 i had a great job in tech, a lovely relationship and had built up confidence in my life. Life was good, but yet i was still not at home in my body. I realized i couldn't outrun my identity and expect to live a full life" The senior engineer has known she was trans since she was a teen but kept it hidden until last year Her before photo shows her sporting a typical clean cut male but she knew knew early on she was suppressing her true identity with girly tendencies coming out and was disgusted after puberty hit when masculine features started poppin gout She did research and found other people like her and chosen to do something about it finally after learning what it was like to be trans She found that many lived difficult lives finding themselves and keeping it in wasn't helping them so last year she amde the decision to finally transition now that the acceptance of trans people shifted in her older eyars In April she officially started living as April amid the covid-19 pandemic after having this time to reflect on her life and she shared the pictures on instagram and although an expensive procedure, she is proud to be Natalie from now on and is grateful for the people who supported her. Was Natalie better looking as a male or is hotter as a female? Female Natalie - https://i.imgur.com/DHXPVEn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ua0L2kE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/npyaea8.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CKwUsmD.jpg Male "Natalie" - https://i.imgur.com/oEOSYlO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Sc2QcZI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hXTEW11.jpg https://i.imgur.com/X7ChuO2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/KoWschZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PMdtHAB.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultra magnus13 08/12/20 2:57:20 AM #2:	She should have skipped the facial surgery. --- ?huh?........ it's just a box. <cite>ultra magnus13 posted [p:943283307] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>She should have skipped the facial surgery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 08/12/20 5:38:15 AM #3:	ultra magnus13 posted... She should have skipped the facial surgery. Its confusing because of the order the pictures are posted but from the way im reading it its a dude. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:943285358] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>ultra magnus13 posted... </cite> <quote>She should have skipped the facial surgery.</quote> Its confusing because of the order the pictures are posted but from the way im reading it its a dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultra magnus13 08/12/20 1:57:31 PM #5:	bulbinking posted... Its confusing because of the order the pictures are posted but from the way im reading it its a dude. My understanding is biological male, now living/presenting as a female. I think the facial surgery makes her looks worse, than if she had just started taking hormones, done hair removal etc. Her new cheek bones, make her face look fake and kind of gross. Before surgery, when presenting as a man she already had a slender face, that probably would have looked fine presenting female, but now she is stuck with a gross plastic surgery looking face. --- ?huh?........ it's just a box. <cite>ultra magnus13 posted [p:943297613] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>bulbinking posted...</cite> <quote> Its confusing because of the order the pictures are posted but from the way im reading it its a dude. </quote> My understanding is biological male, now living/presenting as a female. I think the facial surgery makes her looks worse, than if she had just started taking hormones, done hair removal etc. Her new cheek bones, make her face look fake and kind of gross. Before surgery, when presenting as a man she already had a slender face, that probably would have looked fine presenting female, but now she is stuck with a gross plastic surgery looking face.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HornedLion 08/12/20 2:01:12 PM #6:	Im not even gay and I think they look better as a dude. --- "Wham wham bam bam" - the sound of Microsoft getting destroyed by Sony again <cite>HornedLion posted [p:943297755] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Im not even gay and I think they look better as a dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 08/12/20 2:11:06 PM #7:	Most of the time I just ignore your ridiculousness, but Its really mean spirited for you to post this. --- Annoy a Conservative, punch a Nazi. <cite>kangolcone posted [p:943298120] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Most of the time I just ignore your ridiculousness, but Its really mean spirited for you to post this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosAzeroth 08/12/20 2:54:07 PM #8:	kangolcone posted... Most of the time I just ignore your ridiculousness, but Its really mean spirited for you to post this. Right? <cite>ChaosAzeroth posted [p:943299699] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>kangolcone posted... </cite> <quote>Most of the time I just ignore your ridiculousness, but Its really mean spirited for you to post this.</quote> Right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/12/20 3:32:07 PM #9:	Male because as a "female" they simply look like a bloke in drag. I'm also not a fan of plastic surgery in general. If they are happy with the outcome that's all that matters though. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943301202] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Male because as a "female" they simply look like a bloke in drag. I'm also not a fan of plastic surgery in general. If they are happy with the outcome that's all that matters though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 08/12/20 6:40:14 PM #10:	wwinterj25 posted... Male because as a "female" they simply look like a bloke in drag. I'm also not a fan of plastic surgery in general. If they are happy with the outcome that's all that matters though. Yeah I was confused by the order the pictures were posted I thought it was ftm but looking at pictures of female version and im like thats obviously a dude. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:943308566] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>Male because as a "female" they simply look like a bloke in drag. I'm also not a fan of plastic surgery in general. If they are happy with the outcome that's all that matters though.</quote> Yeah I was confused by the order the pictures were posted I thought it was ftm but looking at pictures of female version and im like thats obviously a dude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OniRonin 08/12/20 6:57:17 PM #11:	ok kevin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpq6l_3v-4M --- god is dumb. she/her #NotAllGamers #YesAllLandlods <cite>OniRonin posted [p:943309220] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>ok kevin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpq6l_3v-4M </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/12/20 6:58:22 PM #12:	People wonder why I support early teen transitions --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:943309267] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>People wonder why I support early teen transitions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/12/20 7:10:51 PM #13:	Guy in my opinion. I like the fourth male picture. Bu it all depends on how she feels. If she feels good in her body, then thats all that matters... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:943309755] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Guy in my opinion. I like the fourth male picture. Bu it all depends on how she feels. If she feels good in her body, then thats all that matters...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/12/20 8:24:43 PM #14:	Yellow posted... It's like people want them to look like both a man and a woman at the same time (no offense) out of ignorance by forcing them to wait, out of the myth that it's not diagnosable early on. Actually people want it to not be done at all but are too scared of the thought police to voice their opinions. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:943312059] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>It's like people want them to look like both a man and a woman at the same time (no offense) out of ignorance by forcing them to wait, out of the myth that it's not diagnosable early on.</quote> Actually people want it to not be done at all but are too scared of the thought police to voice their opinions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
helIy 08/12/20 8:27:56 PM #15:	i thought it was female to male because the male face was extremely feminine looking --- 'cause everything's changing and i don't know s* about s*. <cite>helIy posted [p:943312176] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>i thought it was female to male because the male face was extremely feminine looking </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ClarkDuke 08/12/20 8:33:05 PM #16:	thunder? --- https://imgur.com/qL0DHFI https://imgur.com/JL9rRLt https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ <cite>ClarkDuke posted [p:943312364] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>thunder? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 08/12/20 8:33:54 PM #17:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Actually people want it to not be done at all but are too scared of the thought police to voice their opinions. Those people are misinformed given how rare it is trans people ever actually regret transitioning. And I don't need no stinking thought police. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZNqaAh6iLU <cite>Yellow posted [p:943312397] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Actually people want it to not be done at all but are too scared of the thought police to voice their opinions.</quote>Those people are misinformed given how rare it is trans people ever actually regret transitioning. And I don't need no stinking thought police. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 08/12/20 8:48:15 PM #18:	Yellow posted... Those people are misinformed given how rare it is trans people ever actually regret transitioning. Its 11% that are known. --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:943312874] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>Those people are misinformed given how rare it is trans people ever actually regret transitioning.</quote> Its 11% that are known. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/12/20 8:55:56 PM #19:	Yellow posted... Those people are misinformed given how rare it is trans people ever actually regret transitioning. Apart from the ones that do. Or the ones who feel no better. There's also the issue of how it effects everybody else who has to tiptoe around them now they identify outwardly differently. Yellow posted... And I don't need no stinking thought police. Forcing other people to identify you as how you feel is literally policing thought. But whatever, even talking about this neutrally will probably lead to a few more days on the naughty chair. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:943313153] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>Those people are misinformed given how rare it is trans people ever actually regret transitioning.</quote> Apart from the ones that do. Or the ones who feel no better. There's also the issue of how it effects everybody else who has to tiptoe around them now they identify outwardly differently. Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>And I don't need no stinking thought police.</quote> Forcing other people to identify you as how you feel is literally policing thought. But whatever, even talking about this neutrally will probably lead to a few more days on the naughty chair.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 08/12/20 9:35:26 PM #20:	It looks like he/she/they put more effort into his/her/their looks as a man than when a woman --- Next Xbox will be named Xbox1 2 <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:943314593] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>It looks like he/she/they put more effort into his/her/their looks as a man than when a woman </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/12/20 9:56:58 PM #21:	JOExHIGASHI posted... It looks like he/she/they put more effort into his/her/their looks as a man than when a woman She wasn't a bad looking guy tbf. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943315348] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>JOExHIGASHI posted... </cite> <quote>It looks like he/she/they put more effort into his/her/their looks as a man than when a woman</quote>She wasn't a bad looking guy tbf. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PKMNsony 08/12/20 11:04:10 PM #22:	Is that hair natural? It just looks like he put a wig on. <cite>PKMNsony posted [p:943317462] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Is that hair natural? It just looks like he put a wig on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 08/12/20 11:12:51 PM #23:	PKMNsony posted... Is that hair natural? It just looks like he put a wig on. It might be. I do see what youre talking about. But the last picture in the male category makes me think it might be her real hair... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:943317702] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>PKMNsony posted...</cite> <quote>Is that hair natural? It just looks like he put a wig on. </quote> It might be. I do see what youre talking about. But the last picture in the male category makes me think it might be her real hair...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OniRonin 08/12/20 11:50:03 PM #24:	PKMNsony posted... Is that hair natural? It just looks like he put a wig on. eat shit and die transphobe --- god is dumb. she/her #NotAllGamers #YesAllLandlods <cite>OniRonin posted [p:943318743] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>PKMNsony posted... </cite> <quote>Is that hair natural? It just looks like he put a wig on.</quote>eat shit and die transphobe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OniRonin 08/12/20 11:59:46 PM #25:	ultra magnus13 posted... She should have skipped the facial surgery. you should have skipped being born --- god is dumb. she/her #NotAllGamers #YesAllLandlods <cite>OniRonin posted [p:943319062] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>ultra magnus13 posted... </cite> <quote>She should have skipped the facial surgery.</quote>you should have skipped being born </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OniRonin 08/13/20 12:00:30 AM #26:	wwinterj25 posted... Male because as a "female" please die soon, you waste of space --- god is dumb. she/her #NotAllGamers #YesAllLandlods <cite>OniRonin posted [p:943319082] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>Male because as a "female"</quote> please die soon, you waste of space </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/13/20 12:13:13 AM #27:	OniRonin posted... -snip- That's a no and I've seen more funner ways of a account suicide... --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943319401] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>OniRonin posted... </cite> <quote>-snip-</quote> That's a no and I've seen more funner ways of a account suicide... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PKMNsony 08/13/20 12:16:22 AM #28:	OniRonin posted... eat shit and die transphobe Unhinged. <cite>PKMNsony posted [p:943319470] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>OniRonin posted... </cite> <quote>eat shit and die transphobe</quote>Unhinged. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OniRonin 08/13/20 12:17:20 AM #29:	wwinterj25 posted... That's a no and I've seen more funner ways of a account suicide... fuck you. PKMNsony posted... Unhinged. kill yourself --- god is dumb. she/her #NotAllGamers #YesAllLandlods <cite>OniRonin posted [p:943319487] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>That's a no and I've seen more funner ways of a account suicide...</quote>fuck you. PKMNsony posted... </cite> <quote>Unhinged.</quote>kill yourself </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 08/13/20 12:17:45 AM #30:	Their face looks really weird in the female pictures. This is one of those cases where it feels like the medical science just isn't there yet. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:943319501] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Their face looks really weird in the female pictures. This is one of those cases where it feels like the medical science just isn't there yet. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/13/20 12:18:12 AM #31:	No thanks. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943319512] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>No thanks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PKMNsony 08/13/20 12:21:41 AM #32:	OniRonin posted... fuck you. kill yourself Done. You're welcome. <cite>PKMNsony posted [p:943319585] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>OniRonin posted... </cite> <quote>fuck you. kill yourself</quote>Done. You're welcome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/13/20 10:54:55 AM #33:	I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943330577] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/13/20 12:20:13 PM #34:	Muscles posted... I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone There's an obvious reason, but people really want to believe there is a convenient solution so they can believe other similar situations can be sorted as easily. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:943333663] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted...</cite> <quote>I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone </quote> There's an obvious reason, but people really want to believe there is a convenient solution so they can believe other similar situations can be sorted as easily.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 08/13/20 1:22:15 PM #35:	Yellow posted... People wonder why I support early teen transitions Well we treat teens like children up until they are legally adults, 1/3 of the states decided they arent allowed to chose to use their penis until they're 18, why do you think we would trust them with choosing to change their Estrogen/Testorone levels? Muscles posted... I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone Because they have gender dysphoria --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:943335934] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite> <quote>People wonder why I support early teen transitions</quote>Well we treat teens like children up until they are legally adults, 1/3 of the states decided they arent allowed to chose to use their penis until they're 18, why do you think we would trust them with choosing to change their Estrogen/Testorone levels? Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone</quote>Because they have gender dysphoria </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aculo 08/13/20 1:36:21 PM #36:	like 95% of trans women, just looks like yet another dude wearing woman's clothing, and face caked with makeup, ok? --- ok? <cite>Aculo posted [p:943336457] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>like 95% of trans women, just looks like yet another dude wearing woman's clothing, and face caked with makeup, ok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/13/20 1:49:47 PM #37:	Muscles posted... I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone They are not supposed to be fooling people. They are living in a way that makes them happy. Edit: So OniRonin got warned. Nice. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943336911] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>I have nothing against trans people, but I don't get why dudes that could never pull off looking like a woman would want to go through with that, you aren't fooling anyone</quote>They are not supposed to be fooling people. They are living in a way that makes them happy. Edit: So OniRonin got warned. Nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 08/13/20 2:56:20 PM #38:	wwinterj25 posted... They are not supposed to be fooling people. They are living in a way that makes them happy. What makes them happy is fooling people in to believing they're another gender though? They get unhappy when they're unsuccessful. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:943339670] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted...</cite> <quote>They are not supposed to be fooling people. They are living in a way that makes them happy.</quote> What makes them happy is fooling people in to believing they're another gender though? They get unhappy when they're unsuccessful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/13/20 3:31:51 PM #39:	Kyuubi4269 posted... What makes them happy is fooling people in to believing they're another gender though? They get unhappy when they're unsuccessful. What normally makes folks happy is living how they want without judgemental arseholes trying to drag them down because they are clearly unhappy with their own existence. You're not that important to folk that they feel they must try and fool you believe it or not. Proving it's legal and harmless I don't care. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943341199] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>What makes them happy is fooling people in to believing they're another gender though? They get unhappy when they're unsuccessful.</quote>What normally makes folks happy is living how they want without judgemental arseholes trying to drag them down because they are clearly unhappy with their own existence. You're not that important to folk that they feel they must try and fool you believe it or not. Proving it's legal and harmless I don't care. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/13/20 4:04:04 PM #40:	wwinterj25 posted... They are not supposed to be fooling people. They are living in a way that makes them happy. Edit: So OniRonin got warned. Nice. They know they don't look like what they want though, if you're already feminine looking and can actually look like a girl then it's different, that's not to say I would judge them as a person based on that, as long as they aren't hurting anyone I really don't care what people do and won't judge them, I might find some stuff weird but more power to ya if that's what you want --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943342513] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>They are not supposed to be fooling people. They are living in a way that makes them happy. Edit: So OniRonin got warned. Nice.</quote>They know they don't look like what they want though, if you're already feminine looking and can actually look like a girl then it's different, that's not to say I would judge them as a person based on that, as long as they aren't hurting anyone I really don't care what people do and won't judge them, I might find some stuff weird but more power to ya if that's what you want </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bulbinking 08/13/20 5:38:08 PM #41:	Maybe if it didnt suck so much being male in modern western society... --- Qc_Stryder 5/21/2015 6:58:09 AM posted... Mods- Protectors of feelings 3DS 5370-0410-4945 <cite>bulbinking posted [p:943346275] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Maybe if it didnt suck so much being male in modern western society... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/13/20 5:45:18 PM #42:	Muscles posted... They know they don't look like what they want though How do you know they don't look the way they want to look? You have your own views on how a woman should look sure but again people don't live to please you. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943346520] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>They know they don't look like what they want though</quote> How do you know they don't look the way they want to look? You have your own views on how a woman should look sure but again people don't live to please you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 08/13/20 11:35:22 PM #43:	kangolcone posted... Most of the time I just ignore your ridiculousness, but Its really mean spirited for you to post this. Wat. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:943358644] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>kangolcone posted...</cite> <quote>Most of the time I just ignore your ridiculousness, but Its really mean spirited for you to post this. </quote> Wat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/13/20 11:36:49 PM #44:	Revelation34 posted... Wat. He's saying ducky is mean for asking this. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943358704] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>Wat.</quote>He's saying ducky is mean for asking this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/14/20 12:30:27 AM #45:	wwinterj25 posted... How do you know they don't look the way they want to look? You have your own views on how a woman should look sure but again people don't live to please you. Sure maybe a couple like looking super manly but that's beside the point, also I never said they were here to please me, I even said that idc and don't judge people for things like that --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943360394] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>How do you know they don't look the way they want to look? You have your own views on how a woman should look sure but again people don't live to please you.</quote>Sure maybe a couple like looking super manly but that's beside the point, also I never said they were here to please me, I even said that idc and don't judge people for things like that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/14/20 12:34:47 AM #46:	Muscles posted... Sure maybe a couple like looking super manly but that's beside the point That's exactly the point given the question you asked. They look however they please. Nothing more to be said. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943360501] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Sure maybe a couple like looking super manly but that's beside the point</quote> That's exactly the point given the question you asked. They look however they please. Nothing more to be said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YoukaiSlayer 08/14/20 2:14:53 AM #47:	I mean, isn't it about a lot about public perception though? Gender is a social construct so if you have a problem with it then don't you have to care about how people see you? Otherwise you wouldn't care if you come across as male or female. --- I'm ninja (you can't see me) <cite>YoukaiSlayer posted [p:943362896] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>I mean, isn't it about a lot about public perception though? Gender is a social construct so if you have a problem with it then don't you have to care about how people see you? Otherwise you wouldn't care if you come across as male or female. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/14/20 11:24:40 AM #48:	YoukaiSlayer posted... I mean, isn't it about a lot about public perception though? It's more about folk been happy with themselves. It's a mental state of mind. This is true for folk who just have plastic surgery too. It's best to not care too much what others think. I feel more folk would be more happy that way. Gender is a social construct so if you have a problem with it then don't you have to care about how people see you? Otherwise you wouldn't care if you come across as male or female. Men and woman come in all varieties so not really. It's more a individual feeling I'd imagine. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943373260] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>YoukaiSlayer posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, isn't it about a lot about public perception though?</quote> It's more about folk been happy with themselves. It's a mental state of mind. This is true for folk who just have plastic surgery too. It's best to not care too much what others think. I feel more folk would be more happy that way. <quote>Gender is a social construct so if you have a problem with it then don't you have to care about how people see you? Otherwise you wouldn't care if you come across as male or female.</quote> Men and woman come in all varieties so not really. It's more a individual feeling I'd imagine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fazeo13 08/14/20 11:46:05 AM #49:	Wow, he got butchered he should sue. --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P <cite>Fazeo13 posted [p:943374026] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Wow, he got butchered he should sue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 08/14/20 9:14:42 PM #50:	wwinterj25 posted... That's exactly the point given the question you asked. They look however they please. Nothing more to be said. Are you saying all manly looking trans persons want to be manly looking and don't want to be more feminine but are doing their best? --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:943395000] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>wwinterj25 posted... </cite> <quote>That's exactly the point given the question you asked. They look however they please. Nothing more to be said.</quote>Are you saying all manly looking trans persons want to be manly looking and don't want to be more feminine but are doing their best? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 08/15/20 12:05:17 AM #51:	Muscles posted... Are you saying all manly looking trans persons want to be manly looking and don't want to be more feminine but are doing their best? I'll say this one last time so you understand. I'm saying trans folk want to be happy with whatever sex or gender they feel they are and don't really care what you consider to be manly or not. It's not hard to grasp here. On a side note: What do you actually think a man should look like? Also what is considered feminine exactly to you? You seem well versed in these things so I'm curious. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj - https://imgur.com/YvP6isz <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:943400167] in Transgende... [t:78907007]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Are you saying all manly looking trans persons want to be manly looking and don't want to be more feminine but are doing their best?</quote> I'll say this one last time so you understand. I'm saying trans folk want to be happy with whatever sex or gender they feel they are and don't really care what you consider to be manly or not. It's not hard to grasp here. On a side note: What do you actually think a man should look like? Also what is considered feminine exactly to you? You seem well versed in these things so I'm curious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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