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Eliza3
08/11/20 10:12:15 PM
#1:


Its pretty derogatory to trans women and I cant really see any justification in using it in this context. Probably should just not do that, no?

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SevenTenths
08/11/20 10:13:10 PM
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#CancelAkbar

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Guide
08/11/20 10:13:33 PM
#3:


It's not. It can be used insultingly, yes, but there are guys who make a hobby of tricking other guys into thinking that they're girls. They refer to themselves as traps.

Or maybe it's only a slur when the context of an insult is applied?

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MC_BatCommander
08/11/20 10:13:55 PM
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Traps aren't transwomen tho, using the word to describe a transwoman would be insulting but that's not what the word is meant for

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Middle hope
08/11/20 10:14:26 PM
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No. But some cry babies are trying to make it one.

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Smackems
08/11/20 10:14:39 PM
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Then what are they

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Pus_N_Pecans
08/11/20 10:24:28 PM
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Its not quite on that level, especially if its used accurately, but using it to describe transwomen is pretty repugnant.

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Tyranthraxus
08/11/20 10:24:48 PM
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It's a slur when used to insult a transperson

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R1masher
08/11/20 10:25:51 PM
#9:


This topic is a trap

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coh
08/11/20 10:25:56 PM
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Traps still identify as male though, which is why it's pretty funny when people try to deny fapping to them is gay
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jon1012
08/11/20 10:26:32 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's a slur when used to insult a transperson
So, its like the n word?

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DDirtyDastard
08/11/20 10:26:54 PM
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Stop TRYING to be offended.
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Rika_Furude
08/11/20 10:27:08 PM
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Ive been warned for using it in the context of the anime trope

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SocksForWokMAX2
08/11/20 10:28:15 PM
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I never thought it was meant for people who were actually trans.
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Pus_N_Pecans
08/11/20 10:28:16 PM
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jon1012 posted...
So, its like the n word?
The other t word or the f word is a lot closer to that for trans people.

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thebatz
08/11/20 10:28:56 PM
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If a someone tries to hook up with a person without disclosing to them that they are trans then it's fair to call them a trap.


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Smashingpmkns
08/11/20 10:29:01 PM
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Not the kind of trap I was thinking of when entering this topic for some reason. Spend too much time at the trap smh
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coh
08/11/20 10:33:21 PM
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They're basicvally just crossdressers
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kingdrake2
08/11/20 10:34:29 PM
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thebatz posted...
If a someone tries to hook up with a person without disclosing to them that they are trans then it's fair to call them a trap.



trap situation... not a trap person or insulting manner etc.
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ILiekSniping
08/11/20 10:37:03 PM
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Captain_Qwark posted...
Trap is just a dude dressing like a girl to fool guys for fun
Does this count as appropriating trans culture?
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Tyranthraxus
08/11/20 10:45:49 PM
#22:


jon1012 posted...
So, its like the n word?

No. It's like gorilla. A perfectly normal word that becomes a slur when you use it to describe a person.

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FortuneCookie
08/11/20 10:47:34 PM
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It depends on the context.

If you use it as a term of derision toward trans women, it's a slur.
If you use it as a term for convincing cross-dressing males, it's a helluva fetish. I mean, not a slur.

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viewmaster_pi
08/12/20 2:57:18 AM
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i got modded here for referring to my own animal crossing character as a trap, disputed and everything, explained how nobody said anything about trans women, i just posted a screenshot of my character in super girly clothes, "trap" characters are literally created and written to be male, etc. upheld

so yeah, as far as gfaqs is concerned, it's an extremely offensive slur in any context

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Illuminoius
08/12/20 2:58:56 AM
#25:


it is, but weird anime fans and weebs have been trying to claim it's something else entirely
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IMNOTRAGED
08/12/20 2:59:02 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Traps aren't transwomen tho, using the word to describe a transwoman would be insulting but that's not what the word is meant for


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Eab1990
08/12/20 3:33:28 AM
#27:


We live in an age where context no longer matters and the worst possible interpretation is the only correct option to justify being offended at everything.

But yeah, mods will delete it even if it's used to describe a character that isn't trans to begin with.

We went ~10 years describing GG Bridget and the like as traps, not trans.

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Turbam
08/12/20 3:38:11 AM
#28:


It is for some reason, even though trap and trans are two completely different things.

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pokedude900
08/12/20 3:57:56 AM
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The word's original use was to refer to (strictly cisgender) anime guys who dress as girls, being an offshoot of the Admiral Akhbar meme. Any use of the term as a transphobic slur didn't happen until later on. If it's going to be treated as a slur in all contexts, then so should fairy.
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Rika_Furude
08/12/20 4:06:08 AM
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pokedude900 posted...
The word's original use was to refer to (strictly cisgender) anime guys who dress as girls, being an offshoot of the Admiral Akhbar meme. Any use of the term as a transphobic slur didn't happen until later on. If it's going to be treated as a slur in all contexts, then so should fairy.
explain that to gamefaqs mods

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
08/12/20 4:34:47 AM
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Didnt it start as something used in anime ?

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Kisai
08/12/20 4:43:35 AM
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I've never seen it used in any negative light. Like, I've never seen it used as an insult. It's always been used in a positive context.

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Middle hope
08/12/20 9:40:23 PM
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Apparently the mods of this site's official stance is that it is a slur.

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CanuckCowboy
08/12/20 9:42:05 PM
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Oh in that sense. Yeah id think it is.

I was thinking like trap house meaning and was gonna disagree.

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pfh1001
08/12/20 9:47:19 PM
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DDirtyDastard posted...
Stop TRYING to be offended.
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RavingShark
08/12/20 9:49:50 PM
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my ex-husband used it as a reward a title earned like a war medal. fooling foolish men. trap them. winning, duh. charlie sheen etc

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Purple_Cheetah
08/12/20 10:02:28 PM
#37:


I've only ever seen it used for a male that's very androgynous or intentionally dresses feminine for the intention of entrapment essentially or femboys. In that case I feel it's fine, personally.

Now I have seen another word that's become obsolete used as derogitory for trans, though some still use it? I don't know, there's so many terms that seem to be in flux and have various meanings. I would say I've not seen it used negatively, but think I know of a way it could be.

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ColdOne666
08/12/20 10:22:47 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
i got modded here for referring to my own animal crossing character as a trap, disputed and everything, explained how nobody said anything about trans women, i just posted a screenshot of my character in super girly clothes, "trap" characters are literally created and written to be male, etc. upheld

so yeah, as far as gfaqs is concerned, it's an extremely offensive slur in any context

Mods here are far left noodle brains. Dont expect any comprehension skills, logic or even a display of maturity.

It's just a power trip.

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FlameTurtle
08/12/20 10:53:44 PM
#39:


I went to go see what some trans people think about it. This is a stickied thread at the top of a subreddit with 140k subs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/i50xn2/yes_trap_is_a_slur/

I think that some of you are picking a really shitty hill to die on.

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Eab1990
08/12/20 11:09:56 PM
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Insulting people by essentially calling them closeted transphobes is why they dont garner sympathy in this discussion.

Especially when they lock the post immediately because theyre not looking for discussion, only their version of the truth.

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Eliza3
08/12/20 11:10:52 PM
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FlameTurtle posted...
I went to go see what some trans people think about it. This is a stickied thread at the top of a subreddit with 140k subs.

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/i50xn2/yes_trap_is_a_slur/

I think that some of you are picking a really shitty hill to die on.

Good read.

Eab1990 posted...
Insulting people by essentially calling them closeted transphobes is why they dont garner sympathy in this discussion.

wait, who's doing that?

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Eab1990
08/12/20 11:13:52 PM
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Its right there in the third paragraph of that post.

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08/12/20 11:15:04 PM
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Eliza3
08/12/20 11:15:22 PM
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Eab1990 posted...
Its right there in the third paragraph of that post.

No it isn't.

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Blue_Inigo
08/12/20 11:15:57 PM
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It's a heavily outdated weeb term

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UnfairRepresent
08/13/20 3:17:12 AM
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Why is it so hard for people to treat others with basic levels of respect?
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Proofpyros
08/13/20 3:20:26 AM
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It wasn't but now its considered to be
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MacadamianNut3
08/13/20 3:29:50 AM
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I got warned for talking about anime traps. Not someone who identifies as a woman or anything. Literally a male that identifies as male, is straight, and wears usual clothing (read: not those two dudes from Fate and Steins;Gate) and the only thing was they had a pretty face

I don't really care about internet karmies but it was interesting to see the same fallout on r/animemes like a month after that lmao

Edit: Oh and Felix from ReZero when he's wearing casual clothing. Pretty much the only three examples I can think of where it's a guy wearing girly clothing, and I'm pretty sure the anime trap meme isn't restricted to 3 anime shows

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Middle hope
08/13/20 3:40:55 AM
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MacadamianNut3 posted...


Edit: Oh and Felix from ReZero when he's wearing casual clothing. Pretty much the only three examples I can think of where it's a guy wearing girly clothing, and I'm pretty sure the anime trap meme isn't restricted to 3 anime shows
I can think of at least a few more.

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The Catgirl Fondler
08/13/20 4:18:51 AM
#51:


Shouldn't be a slur, but we're living in some very stupid times so *of course* people are going to try and turn it into one.
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