Board 8 > Fire Emblem Heroes Discussion Topic Part 27: Still hoping for Resplendent Lloyd.

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Dark Young Link
08/06/20 11:54:02 PM
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Which CYL 4 unit are you going for?







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Sorry this took so long, was feeling pretty out of it.

CYL4 is coming in just a few weeks, what horriblewonderful new powercreep would we be in for? We'll be getting another FEH channel mid August, perhaps we'll find out then.

In the meanwhile, we currently are in a summer celebration. That and the upcoming TT+ should get you some last minute orbs if you need some more.

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barreldragon88
08/07/20 12:23:33 AM
#2:


Thanks for making the topic, wasn't sure if you were feeling up to it. I have no idea who I would go for yet. I want Lysithea to be a colorless mage, but I feel like they're just going to keep the colors the same

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kateee
08/07/20 12:58:19 AM
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i looked over the results for cyl4 since i really like the concept and want to be a part of the next one.

...well i guess i won't ever have to be "worried" about spending on cyl banners. >_>

also i looked over the entire hero pool and marked out all the characters i would eventually want to pull for/promote/+10.

no way to calculate orbs but i only need 1,922,000 feathers to get all the 4* units i want to 5 star/+10.
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Yankees
08/07/20 9:09:11 AM
#4:


Dimitri and Edelgard are the two that I'll most likely want the most. Last year's CYL units were surprisingly tame.

I have 900k feathers and it is hard to find 4* units I want to +10 anymore. I'd pick some of the newer ones, like Ferdinand, but I don't have nearly enough copies.

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barreldragon88
08/07/20 1:19:58 PM
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Must be nice to be in a position where you are struggling to find units to build. I'm always in need of feathers because I have way too man projects that I will never be able to get to all of them

Funny how Marth continuously gets shafted. Still hasn't won CYL and still no Resplendent

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mcflubbin
08/07/20 2:21:21 PM
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Resplendent Eirika? That's the wrong sibling! Though it does give me hope that we'll get Ephraim soon.

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kateee
08/08/20 4:42:52 AM
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i finally started looking into some of the other mechanics i've just been ignoring up to now. i thought the dragonflower enhancements that i was seeing on other people's units was just showing how many individual dragonflowers were used. so all this time i was getting dragonflowers as rewards i was thinking what the heck i was going to do with so many.

"oh"

anyway, if i give dragonflowers to a unit that has a bad nature, will that somehow screw up the statline for future? i.e. will my unit be locked out of potential max stats if i give them DFs when they have the bad nature instead of waiting for a good nature copy? assuming the plan is to max out DFs.
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Dark Young Link
08/08/20 5:33:23 AM
#8:


No. A unit's stats at level 40 is already predetermined so you can't accidentally alter that or anything.

Think of Dragonflowers as an extra +1(+2 for Earlier Infantry units) to their stats.

I believe they also carry over if merged so if say you gave 5 flowers to a -Atk unit, and you later merge it to a +Atk unit then the +Atk will have those 5 flowers.

Though if you gave the -Atk 3 flowers and the +Atk 2 flowers and merge into the +Atk... they don't combine flowers in that case. So you can't "trick" the game by getting max flowers for cheap unfortunately.

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kateee
08/08/20 11:18:49 AM
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I got worried for a sec because I thought there could be some weird situations where different natures cause enough variance in stats where the order for stat increases changes when you enhance. Like since DF enhancements increase stats in decreasing order, if my speed was 3rd highest but I only had 2 enhancements and I changed nature causing my speed to become 2nd highest, I would lose out on my speed gain. If I don't have to think about that shit, that's better since it's just one point.

I checked my inventory and I had even less than I thought. I only had 240 red which is NOTHINGGGG
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Team Rocket Elite
08/08/20 11:41:39 AM
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Boons and Banes can change the order a unit gets stats in from merges and Dragonflowers. So say the unit you have gets stats in the order of HP > Atk > Spd > Def > Res. The first 2 stats from Dragonflowers go to HP and Atk. Now you merge that unit it a different unit with different boons and banes. The new order is HP > Spd > Atk > Def > Res. The unit still gets 2 stat points from Dragonflowers but they are now in HP and Spd.
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kateee
08/08/20 11:49:59 AM
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So if I already had 2 upgraded and I changed nature's they just get applied retroactively and I still don't have to worry about optimization if I plan to max out even if there are nature changes right?

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Team Rocket Elite
08/08/20 12:01:23 PM
#12:


Yes, that's right.
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Dark Young Link
08/08/20 1:23:51 PM
#13:


*Sigh*

This fucking game.

Hero Fest banner refused to give me what I wanted. Went through a bunch of f2p orbs to no avail. Finally I break down and buy the summer orb pack.

Naturally.

NATURALLY, this is the circle Bernie finally shows up. Swear to God this is the last time I ever pull on a Hero Fest. They're just cursed for me. Not even her debut banner was that bad for me. It's all so emotionally draining, I think I'll take a break once the summer celebration is over with.

The silver lining is that she came +Spd/-Hp, so I finally have a good boon for her.

"Life is so hard... don't you think?"

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Yankees
08/08/20 1:35:55 PM
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At least you finally got an ideal boon for her. She'll eventually make it back on a three unit banner, and hopefully you get much better luck then.

This is the best banner you can ask for to get a focus unit, but RNG can still screw you over pretty hard.

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Dark Young Link
08/10/20 3:42:52 PM
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Man, this is probably the least I've done in a Hall of Forms. Last day and the highest level is a level 35 Mist.

At least I got the 7th reward today. No armor skills for either armor and no DC for Ike

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kateee
08/10/20 4:01:37 PM
#16:


HoF seems like the least worth it out of all the events for the time put in

also armor units ffffffffffffffffffffffff
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kateee
08/10/20 4:08:18 PM
#17:


so i got a Nina

is Bow Valor the shittiest skill in the entire game wtf is this
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Dark Young Link
08/10/20 4:26:46 PM
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It can be fun if you're playing around with a character you're interested in. Otherwise yeah, it's quite the hassle near the end. The late maps loves to throw you in "You Lose" scenarios. In the FE7 HoF, a Midori was basically an instant loss. Three fliers and BowLyn. Course that's why there's the map preview button.

I'm also a bit worried that they're phasing out one of the other benefits of running HoF, which is to get premium skills for a unit you don't mind being neutral(Or is forced to be neutral like any grail unit). Yes you need to fork over $30 to buy a Forma Soul, but it can save you a lot of hassle and money if you want to get a bunch of difficult to obtain skills for a unit.

Just throwing a random build out there...

Atk/Def Push 4 (Bramimond only)
Daring Fighter 3 (Duo Marth only)
Threaten Atk/Def 3 (Valentine Rudolf only)

Legendary banner and two separate seasonal banners, neither of which are good for sniping for particular units. So the idea is to get expensive skills on a unit you can reasonably +10 and transfer that over. ...But if IS is going to keep throwing us seasonals for HoF then that really devalues the "value" of souls since it's significantly more difficult to +10 a Valentine Ike than it is say, Flame Emperor.


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Dark Young Link
08/10/20 4:28:05 PM
#19:


kateee posted...
so i got a Nina

My condolences.

EXP skills are shittier. Valor skills are at least beneficial. EXP skills are basically "Get less SP" in the end.

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Team Rocket Elite
08/10/20 4:55:32 PM
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There's also Live For Bounty which would have been a funny filler B skill to give some of the pirate units that otherwise have a blank B skill slot.
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Xuxon
08/10/20 5:09:31 PM
#21:


kateee posted...
HoF seems like the least worth it out of all the events for the time put in

also armor units ffffffffffffffffffffffff
HoF is bad enough not having a dancer or any positioning skills, but two melee armor units? fuck that nonsense. i played once a day for 7 days and killed everything with Soren and Mist.

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barreldragon88
08/10/20 6:15:20 PM
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Armor March never came up for Ike or Greil, and Armored Stride only came up once. DC also never came up. What shitty RNG. Mist and Soren definitely carried the team. Soren was lucky enough to get Atk/Spd Solo 4 pretty early on. I did get SS4 and VF on Greil, so he was bulky enough to fight one on one against non-reds

I got a third Shiro... I feel forced to add him to the AA roster, but god, is his refine disappointing

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Dark Young Link
08/10/20 11:24:45 PM
#23:


Calendar is up

https://twitter.com/FE_Heroes_EN/status/1293019307220205568

7 days til CYL 4 units come out it seems.

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Cybat
08/11/20 2:31:08 PM
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Hopefully it having Forging Bonds means we will get summon tickets for it.

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barreldragon88
08/11/20 3:11:08 PM
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If only they could bring back the previous CYL FB's. CYL1 actually never had one

This will also be the first CYL with an accompany GHB, and because this is the only CYL so far to have all the winners from the same game

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Yankees
08/12/20 12:02:48 AM
#26:


The extra hero fest copies arrived, and Ephraim is done.



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Dark Young Link
08/12/20 3:44:59 AM
#27:


Oh nice, congrats dude!

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barreldragon88
08/12/20 1:52:14 PM
#28:


I prefer Atk Smoke as seal on him, and also helps to ensure HB4 goes off. Sad part is at +1, he doesn't hit enough Atk in Resonant Battles, so even though I thought he would be an obvious choice for last week's season, I had to swap him out :(

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Yankees
08/12/20 2:00:17 PM
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I haven't tried him in resonant battles yet. I haven't put any effort into that mode, really. Odd Atk Wave is a filler skill right now since I can more reliably buff him with Eliwood or someone with Atk Tactic. I'll probably switch to Atk Smoke, and possibly Time's Pulse down the line.

Him and L!Edelgard were able to kill nearly everything in Mjolnir's Strike at the top of the map for me. That's pretty satisfying

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barreldragon88
08/12/20 2:20:05 PM
#30:


RB is another joke mode, completely ruined by Harmonized Heroes. The attempts cap is also just stupid

Such bad timing for today's revival banner. Would be a great time to pull for Tibarn or Cain. Fuck you for your bait, IS

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Yankees
08/13/20 11:50:29 PM
#31:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bbuLF00PXE&feature=push-u-sub&attr_tag=qPEkGJeMGmqPD64L%3A6

CYL characters are revealed, and you can spark four times on the banner - once for each.

The dragonflower cap is being raised, and there's a new item that will allow you to change boons/banes on units to whatever you wish which also includes grail and forma units. Now to take a look at which units I have collecting dust with awful natures

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SantaRPidgey
08/14/20 12:10:35 AM
#32:


man this has to be the most dull CYL designs yet.

Lysithea looks p cool at least

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barreldragon88
08/14/20 1:06:59 AM
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I was right and they kept all four the same colors. How boring. It'll be hard for Edel to top her Legendary alt. I guess they expect whales to spark to get all four because most players obviously won't be able to do that

I don't remember Jorge at all, but I was just thinking we've barely had any free archers and he comes as a blue archer, so hoping he'll be decent

Increasing the dragonweed cap is cool and all, but would be nice if they upped the distribution amount as a result or let us plant more each week

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Team Rocket Elite
08/14/20 1:15:10 AM
#34:


Jorge was one of the merchants in Radiant Dawn.
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Dark Young Link
08/14/20 2:04:57 AM
#35:


Yankees posted...
here's a new item that will allow you to change boons/banes on units to whatever you wish which also includes grail and forma units.


It's almost like IS knew I was about to take a break from this game, and did the one thing that would keep me hooked.

Granted I'm dreading just how little we'll get for each mode, but I finally get to give my grail units boons!

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Cybat
08/14/20 11:41:32 AM
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Jorge was memed in Japan which is why he got that high apparently. Hilarious that he gets into the game before Jill or Shinon.

These CYL designs are seriously underwhelming. What are they even going to do for Legendary Claude and Dimitri now? And why would anyone care about whichever of this Edelgard and Legendary Edelgard are worse? Such a weird and lazy decision.

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barreldragon88
08/14/20 2:31:10 PM
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I like how poorly implemented the dragonweed update. If they really wanted to help the old units out, they would restrict it to book 2 and before, but nah, let's give the same boost to F!Julia, Mareeta, and Larcei because they're not threatening enough. Even another 5 dragonweed won't help the old units out much anyway, so the whole thing just leaves a bad taste in your mouth and is another attempt to get more money out of players

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Dark Young Link
08/14/20 2:36:07 PM
#38:


Yeah I don't get why later units also get the DF boost. They absolutely don't need it.


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Team Rocket Elite
08/14/20 2:48:32 PM
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I think it's supposed to be compensation for the Gen 5 stat boost. New units from now on are still limited to 5 Dragonflower levels.
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barreldragon88
08/14/20 6:39:31 PM
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Or they can not have a gen 5 boost because it's already gotten pretty ridiculous

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Xuxon
08/14/20 7:29:02 PM
#41:


speaking of Larcei, wasn't there supposed to be a re-run of that forging bonds with a chance to spark her? whatever happened to that?

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Team Rocket Elite
08/14/20 7:34:09 PM
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According to the schedule it starts on September 10th.
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Xuxon
08/14/20 7:37:30 PM
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yeah i just realized that. i didn't recognize the name of the forging bonds revival on the schedule. apparently forging bonds have their own names that are different from the names on the banner, because when you look down at the banner on the same date, THAT's where it's called "Heir of Light."

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Yankees
08/14/20 8:14:04 PM
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I also don't remember who Jorge is.

I like the art for Dimitri and Lysithea. Legendary Edelgard looks better to me so I don't care very much about this one.

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Dark Young Link
08/14/20 11:14:15 PM
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barreldragon88
08/14/20 11:53:40 PM
#46:


That came out quicker than I thought. This Lysithea looks so much different than the first one that if I didn't know better, I would think she was a different character. Her art looks the best and is the one I will be going for. Not sure why they insist on giving her Moonbow when there's clearly a superior option. I haven't played 3H, but I'm guessing her being effective against cav ties into DK

It needs to be said again that B!Edel being another armor axe is way lazy and dumb

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Yankees
08/15/20 12:38:07 AM
#47:


At least both of the Edelgards function differently with their skillsets. My initial impression is that Dimitri is the best.

It's pretty lame that Claude didn't get a unique B skill like the others, but that's what he gets for second place.

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Team Rocket Elite
08/15/20 12:39:47 AM
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Lysithea didn't get a unique skill either since only the 1st place finishers get one.
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barreldragon88
08/15/20 12:49:56 PM
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Lysithea with Hone Spd 4 is pretty random. Joint Hone Spd would make more sense

Overall, the powercreep is tame again. I expected something like Lull 4

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Dark Young Link
08/15/20 1:07:33 PM
#50:


Lys is hella tempting to pull for that Lull of hers, but I'm recuperating orbs right now.

Atk/Speed Rein is a bit concerning since it looks inheritable. Though I guess we'll see how that effects the meta. I remember not liking Chills when they first came out and they didn't do the damage I thought they did.

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