Poll of the Day > i think it's dope as fuck that there's still kings and queens

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like hell yeah

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pretty stupid the british still pay for their crap, and how so many people fawn over them
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Maybe if they treated their subjects better throughout history then there would be more

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Muscles posted...

Maybe if they treated their subjects better throughout history then there would be more

Are you implying the UK's crown still exists because our monarchy has been historically decent? lol
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Are you implying the UK's crown still exists because our monarchy has been historically decent? lol

Yeah that's what I got out of that lmao

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also, helly, you're our queen :3

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what if a king ran for president

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Are you implying the UK's crown still exists because our monarchy has been historically decent? lol

No, the fact that they were forced out of complete power proves otherwise, they got lucky it didn't end like the French revolution

Also the queen of England seems more like a mascot than head of state

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even though North Korea isn't a "kingdom" they are a hereditary dynasty... so that sorta counts

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Muscles posted...

No, the fact that they were forced out of complete power proves otherwise, they got lucky it didn't end like the French revolution

"Forced"

It's not like they chose to give the people the vote since it doesn't actually effect them.

Muscles posted...

Also the queen of England seems more like a mascot than head of state

The Queen has absolute power over the military and the government has to get her permission to make big decisions. She can also completely overrule the election if she thinks the elected party is damaging.
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SpeeDLeemon posted...

also, helly, you're our queen :3

Yeah, our queen b.

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It might be cool if most weren't just token figureheads at this point. Not that I'd want to live in a monarch I wasn't ruling, mind you.


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Krazy_Kirby posted...

pretty stupid the british still pay for their crap, and how so many people fawn over them

She brings in several times the amount of money in state visits alone, not to mention tourism.

Its a sense of national pride for some people. You wouldn't get it.
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Sarcasthma posted...

Yeah, our queen b.

i do love bees

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Wait wait wait

does helly = hell y = hell yeah?

Is that the etymology of helly?

Kings and Queens were created out of Europeans fighting one another and stealing each other's land and resources. That's how William The Conqueror took control of England in 1066.

All of those fake titlies i.e. Duke, Lord, Earl, Viscount etc were nothing more than a way for people who thought they above the commoners to exert control and hoard all the land which is what led to British people settling in what became America.

In England at that time, if you weren't part of the aristocracy, you were considered a peasant and a nobody and the only way you could get land was if you were born into the right family.

Little known fact is that in the late 19th and early 20th centuries British aristocrats who owned large estates could no longer afford the upkeep so they came looking in America for wealthy daughters of America's wealthiest families. The tv show "Downtown Abbey" is loosely based on that.

America's wealthiest families wanted a place in the upper echelon of British society so they started marrying their daughters off to aristocrats in exchange for money to help keep up the estates and a place in British society among the aristocrats.

Not many people know that Sir Winston Churchill, the late former British PM was the son of an American woman named Jenny Jerome and Lord Randolph Churchill. Jerome was born in Brooklyn in 1854. Her father was a financier named Leonard Jerome. Men like Leonard Jerome wanted a place at the table of British aristocracy so they married their daughters off to men who were in the aristocracy who needed money. I'd say they were pimping their daughters but that's just me.

The late Princess Diana's great-grandmother was an American socialite named Frances Ellen Work. Her great-great-grandchildren include Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. Princess Diana's and Prince Charles' sons.

Francis Work was born in NY in 1857 to a stockbroker father named Franklin Work a protege and friend to one Cornelius Vanderbilt. Francis Work was married to James Boothby Burke Roche.

I am willing to bet not many Americans even know this.

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blu posted...

Wait wait wait

does helly = hell y = hell yeah?

Is that the etymology of helly?

not even close

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BUMPED2002 posted...

he tv show "Downtown Abbey" is loosely based on that.

Ackshuallyyyy... It's Downton Abbey

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Krazy_Kirby posted...

pretty stupid the british still pay for their crap, and how so many people fawn over them

Pisses me off as she doesnt even have any power anymore.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Kings and Queens were created out of Europeans fighting one another and stealing each other's land and resources. That's how William The Conqueror took control of England in 1066.

Yes an no, Kings/Queens were the ones who conquered and commanded the respect of lesser landholders. They didn't just stamp everyone down with an evil giggle, they took control, protected the interests of the people and gave the original land owners general autonomy.

BUMPED2002 posted...

All of those fake titlies i.e. Duke, Lord, Earl, Viscount etc were nothing more than a way for people who thought they above the commoners to exert control and hoard all the land which is what led to British people settling in what became America.

No, they're people assigned by the King to control the King's territory either for their historical control or for doing some good for the kingdom. They're nobles because they're supposed to be noble, bad Lords had their land stripped from them.

BUMPED2002 posted...

In England at that time, if you weren't part of the aristocracy, you were considered a peasant and a nobody and the only way you could get land was if you were born into the right family.

You got land by serving your Lord well. Almost everybody owned their own land and home, but they owed their Lord council tax.

BUMPED2002 posted...

Little known fact is that in the late 19th and early 20th centuries British aristocrats who owned large estates could no longer afford the upkeep so they came looking in America for wealthy daughters of America's wealthiest families. The tv show "Downtown Abbey" is loosely based on that.

That's not little known. Aristocrats are used to living off their families' passive wealth and when that dries up they marry in to other families to expand their passive income.

BUMPED2002 posted...

I'd say they were pimping their daughters but that's just me.

They were negotiating. The daughters were aristocratic too, they also want to marry in to wealth. If you understood how alliances work, you'd understand.

BUMPED2002 posted...

I am willing to bet not many Americans even know this.

I'm willing to bet nobody but socialites care to know.

spikethedevil posted...

Pisses me off as she doesnt even have any power anymore.

She does though. All votes are just a show of who the people want, she can, and has, completely ignored the electoral process and chose her own government. When the government wants to declare war they have to get permission from the Queen, when it wants to leave the EU it has to get the approval of the Queen.

She has an absolute tonne of power but she chooses not to use it because the people want a democracy, not a dictatorship. She appeases her people's expressed opinions to best suit her people, going against that is just going to harm the people.
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Ok when did she completely ignore the vote and form her own government @Kyuubi4269

The only reason she has those powers is that she is on her honour to basically never use them/go against anything.

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spikethedevil posted...

Ok when did she completely ignore the vote and form her own government @Kyuubi4269

The only reason she has those powers is that she is on her honour to basically never use them/go against anything.

In 1957 she chose her conservative leader, Harold Macmillan.

The only reason the government has any say in any matters is because she is honour-bound not to use them. Who do you think gave government power to begin with?
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Who do you think gave government power to begin with?

The general population.

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Kyuubi4269 posted...

In 1957 she chose her conservative leader, Harold Macmillan.

The only reason the government has any say in any matters is because she is honour-bound not to use them. Who do you think gave government power to begin with?

The English civil war and she chose a successor after a resignation from the previous pm/conservative leader so I will ask you again when did she ignore the vote/results of an election and chose her own government? @Kyuubi4269


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spikethedevil posted...

Ok when did she completely ignore the vote and form her own government @Kyuubi4269

The only reason she has those powers is that she is on her honour to basically never use them/go against anything.

The powers can still be used if she wants to use them.
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Muscles posted...

No, the fact that they were forced out of complete power proves otherwise, they got lucky it didn't end like the French revolution

I'd point out that England was a republic, with the monarchy abolished, from 1649 to 1660. We cut the head off our king long before the French started guillotining aristos.

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Firewerx posted...

I'd point out that England was a republic, with the monarchy abolished, from 1649 to 1660. We cut the head off our king long before the French started guillotining aristos.

To be fair, the French revolution's kill list was made by an incel named Marat.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Kings and Queens were created out of Europeans fighting one another and stealing each other's land and resources. That's how William The Conqueror took control of England in 1066.

All of those fake titlies i.e. Duke, Lord, Earl, Viscount etc were nothing more than a way for people who thought they above the commoners to exert control and hoard all the land which is what led to British people settling in what became America.

In England at that time, if you weren't part of the aristocracy, you were considered a peasant and a nobody and the only way you could get land was if you were born into the right family.

Little known fact is that in the late 19th and early 20th centuries British aristocrats who owned large estates could no longer afford the upkeep so they came looking in America for wealthy daughters of America's wealthiest families. The tv show "Downtown Abbey" is loosely based on that.

America's wealthiest families wanted a place in the upper echelon of British society so they started marrying their daughters off to aristocrats in exchange for money to help keep up the estates and a place in British society among the aristocrats.

Not many people know that Sir Winston Churchill, the late former British PM was the son of an American woman named Jenny Jerome and Lord Randolph Churchill. Jerome was born in Brooklyn in 1854. Her father was a financier named Leonard Jerome. Men like Leonard Jerome wanted a place at the table of British aristocracy so they married their daughters off to men who were in the aristocracy who needed money. I'd say they were pimping their daughters but that's just me.

The late Princess Diana's great-grandmother was an American socialite named Frances Ellen Work. Her great-great-grandchildren include Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. Princess Diana's and Prince Charles' sons.

Francis Work was born in NY in 1857 to a stockbroker father named Franklin Work a protege and friend to one Cornelius Vanderbilt. Francis Work was married to James Boothby Burke Roche.

I am willing to bet not many Americans even know this.

I did. But Im gay so might not be surprising. At least thats my ggs reasoning for my knowing random stuff like this.

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Revelation34 posted...

The powers can still be used if she wants to use them.

Technically yes but she never would hence the on her honour not to bit.

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BUMPED2002 posted...

Kings and Queens were created out of Europeans fighting one another and stealing each other's land and resources. That's how William The Conqueror took control of England in 1066.

All of those fake titlies i.e. Duke, Lord, Earl, Viscount etc were nothing more than a way for people who thought they above the commoners to exert control and hoard all the land which is what led to British people settling in what became America.

In England at that time, if you weren't part of the aristocracy, you were considered a peasant and a nobody and the only way you could get land was if you were born into the right family.

Little known fact is that in the late 19th and early 20th centuries British aristocrats who owned large estates could no longer afford the upkeep so they came looking in America for wealthy daughters of America's wealthiest families. The tv show "Downtown Abbey" is loosely based on that.

America's wealthiest families wanted a place in the upper echelon of British society so they started marrying their daughters off to aristocrats in exchange for money to help keep up the estates and a place in British society among the aristocrats.

Not many people know that Sir Winston Churchill, the late former British PM was the son of an American woman named Jenny Jerome and Lord Randolph Churchill. Jerome was born in Brooklyn in 1854. Her father was a financier named Leonard Jerome. Men like Leonard Jerome wanted a place at the table of British aristocracy so they married their daughters off to men who were in the aristocracy who needed money. I'd say they were pimping their daughters but that's just me.

The late Princess Diana's great-grandmother was an American socialite named Frances Ellen Work. Her great-great-grandchildren include Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex. Princess Diana's and Prince Charles' sons.

Francis Work was born in NY in 1857 to a stockbroker father named Franklin Work a protege and friend to one Cornelius Vanderbilt. Francis Work was married to James Boothby Burke Roche.

I am willing to bet not many Americans even know this.

Kings and Queens existed far before William The Conqueror was alive. One of the earliest examples would have been the ancient Egyptian pharaohs.
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Revelation34 posted...

Kings and Queens existed far before William The Conqueror was alive. One of the earliest examples would have been the ancient Egyptian pharaohs.

And thats written records, i bet there has been them since humans started making cities

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