Poll of the Day > So are mosquitos in heaven?

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Did they take communion? This is what questions my kid ask me @2am after visiting the inlaws.

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No.

I guess it depends on what you consider "heaven". Mentioning communion, I assume you mean Catholicism or some branch of Christianity. In which case, mosquitoes most likely do not go to heaven.

If you have a more abstract view of things and see "heaven" more as the idea of our atoms and consciousness dispersing and rejoining the cosmos, then maybe. Depends on how conscious you think mosquitoes are, I guess.

This is actually heaven for mosquitos.

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The user @2AM logged in for 4 days in a row in 2018, and hasn't been seen since then. What if he needs help?

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Maybe @3AM knows what happened?

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If you're going by canon dogma, only humans have souls, and thus only humans go to Heaven. No dogs, no cats, no goldfish or squirrels. Definitely no mosquitoes.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

If you're going by canon dogma, only humans have souls, and thus only humans go to Heaven. No dogs, no cats, no goldfish or squirrels. Definitely no mosquitoes.

But wouldn't mosquitoes absorb a tiny bit of our souls while sucking our blood?

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I'm sure small Mosques exist in the Islamic interpretation of Heaven.
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Sarcasthma posted...

But wouldn't mosquitoes absorb a tiny bit of our souls while sucking our blood?

Shh... logic isn't allowed anywhere around dogma.

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So if Communion wine turns into the blood of Christ, would a mosquito who bit Jesus get drunk?

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

If you're going by canon dogma, only humans have souls, and thus only humans go to Heaven. No dogs, no cats, no goldfish or squirrels. Definitely no mosquitoes.

It's absolutely unreal that people actually believe this.

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faramir77 posted...

It's absolutely unreal that people actually believe this.

It's equally insane anyone believes vaccines carry a legitimate risk, that the Earth is flat, that microwaving pizza is acceptable, or that career politicians actually look out for them or their core values.

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Sarcasthma posted...

Maybe @3AM knows what happened?

Let's see if @5PM can help

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Well I felt your bite, now your in squito heaven.
I slapped you hard, I ain't sorry pard.
cause you sucked the blood from my arm.

You were a paaaain, now your in squito heaven.
But here we are, your not so far
Cause this is your squito heaven.

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Sarcasthma posted...

But wouldn't mosquitoes absorb a tiny bit of our souls while sucking our blood?

Why would our souls be connected to the blood? You don't get multiple personalities from blood transfusions

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faramir77 posted...

It's absolutely unreal that people actually believe this.

all dogs go to heaven

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Muscles posted...

Why would our souls be connected to the blood? You don't get multiple personalities from blood transfusions

Why would our souls be connected to our personality? It really depends on what you consider a soul. Is it inextricably tied to our DNA? Is it dependent on our brain and neurological functioning? Is something beyond the individual, with unknown origins?

Musical version (props winter who showed me this site I think......er...don't the rest of you hate him for that please).

https://voca.ro/o5MR4B2o0Mj

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Sarcasthma posted...

But wouldn't mosquitoes absorb a tiny bit of our souls while sucking our blood?

No, because souls aren't carried in the blood. Regardless of what tons of vampire fiction may have told you.



Entity13 posted...

Shh... logic isn't allowed anywhere around dogma.

Dogma is almost entirely built out of logic. It may not be logic that YOU agree with, but that doesn't mean that dogmatic principles aren't built out of logical chains from previously accepted premises.

Granted, in its most extreme form, you get stuff like the "witches weigh the same as ducks" scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (which is a pretty good example of how logical deduction works in general), but that's still logic. Even if it's faulty logic.

The real trick to dogma is that once logic determines what dogma IS, followers are discouraged from attempting to use their own logic or newer premises to revise the existing dogma. But even then, dogma can change over time (the Catholic Church of today is very different from the Catholic Church of 1920 in a lot of ways - there've been a lot of reformist Popes over the last century or so).

But if you really hate the entire concept of dogma, you can always go Discordian and follow catma instead.



faramir77 posted...

It's absolutely unreal that people actually believe this.

Why? It's kind of a fact that humans are qualitatively different than pretty much every other animal on Earth, and if you live in a society that hasn't yet formulated the concept of evolution, it's very easy to see humans as being "special", and thus start looking for reasons why. And if you decide that souls and an afterlife exist to justify human sapience as a unique thing, it's easy to assume that nothing else on Earth has a soul, and thus can't go to Heaven.

No matter how much you love your pet and swear that it thinks and feels exactly like humans do.

It also helps justify animal exploitation and harvesting in every form - if you assume that humans are distinctly separate from every other animal on Earth, you don't really need to feel overly guilty when you kill and eat every other species.

Even if you live in a society where the concept of evolution is generally accepted, humans are generally still seen as being a step beyond other species, And regardless of what rebellious teen atheists may believe, there are plenty of people who believe in modern scientific principles AND are still religious, because they find it easy to reconcile the idea of an afterlife or divine powers and the idea of science. If anything, "Science" would just be the rules by which a Higher Power decided the material universe should run, and it's only our own divine spark/soul/awareness/etc that allows us to really comprehend and use scientific method as a predictive model at all.

Which is why you don't see dog surgeons or cat rocket scientists.

Hell, most of the people who swear they're too clever to believe in religion and who mock people who do just switch their blind faith into things like ghosts, aliens, and the supernatural in general, where you're still believing in a facet of reality outside of the purely secular world we can see and interact with. Not to mention the sort of people who've basically turned "SCIENCE!" into a new religion of its own, where pretty much anyone with a PhD or a white coat takes on some of the authority that priests used to have, swearing that science can answer every question and solve every problem, placing blind faith in things they don't even remotely understand.

Humans in general are followers. If you take away the thing they used to follow they'll just find something else to hitch their entire worldview to.
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ParanoidObsessive posted...

No, because souls aren't carried in the blood. Regardless of what tons of vampire fiction may have told you.

I know you're just lying to me so I won't have any apprehensions the next time you ask me for some blood.

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ParanoidObsessive posted...

Dogma is almost entirely built out of logic. It may not be logic that YOU agree with, but that doesn't mean that dogmatic principles aren't built out of logical chains from previously accepted premises.

Granted, in its most extreme form, you get stuff like the "witches weigh the same as ducks" scene in Monty Python and the Holy Grail (which is a pretty good example of how logical deduction works in general), but that's still logic. Even if it's faulty logic.

The real trick to dogma is that once logic determines what dogma IS, followers are discouraged from attempting to use their own logic or newer premises to revise the existing dogma. But even then, dogma can change over time (the Catholic Church of today is very different from the Catholic Church of 1920 in a lot of ways - there've been a lot of reformist Popes over the last century or so).

But if you really hate the entire concept of dogma, you can always go Discordian and follow catma instead.

shh... not the point...

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Entity13 posted...

But if you really hate the entire concept of dogma, you can always go Discordian and follow catma instead.

Wasn't mellisa tormie God or something? Some chick was. I didn't hate Dogma, it was like a mix of Jay and Silent Bob, Clerks and some kinda post apocalyptic religious movie. I need to watch it again.

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wolfy42 posted...

Wasn't mellisa tormie God or something? Some chick was. I didn't hate Dogma, it was like a mix of Jay and Silent Bob, Clerks and some kinda post apocalyptic religious movie. I need to watch it again.

Alanis Morissette

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Entity13 posted...

Alanis Morissette

Ahh, yes that was it, thanks. I had a wife once, she remembered all things celebrity, so I kinda suck at it.

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"souls"

lol
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I kind of liked Dogma, and I will now endeavor to remember it with Marisa because holy shit that would have been so much better.

Bugs don't have souls.

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