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colliding
08/03/20 7:22:01 PM
#54:


Shaduln posted...
But also it might be the only place to get the test quicker.

Unlikely, and you're also going to get yourself a nice two thousand dollar ER bill

even with chest pressure/congestion, I would suggest not going to the ER unless breathing is truly a struggle. not because I don't care about rock, but because hospitals are swamped
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08/03/20 7:40:20 PM
#56:


If Rock feels like he is getting worse, he should go to the hospital.

But if you call the hospital and tell them you have a cough and chest pressure but you don't have a fever and you have your sense of taste and smell, your hospital is going to tell you to stay home, self isolate and take OTC medication.

People should not go to ER's to get tested for Covid. That's all I'm saying.
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Tom Bombadil
08/03/20 7:52:47 PM
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I would imagine hospitals vary between different areas in terms of room available and maybe even procedures

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Lopen
08/03/20 8:01:48 PM
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Honestly the odds of it being COVID are fairly low given the symptoms as they stand. I'm pretty sure the rate of fever in symptomatic Covid patients is like 80%+ amd he lacks any of the symptoms that aren't the cough. I'd sooner guess it's Bronchitis (in fact I had these exact symptoms back in Feb and went to urgent care and that's what I had)

Emergency rooms are not meant to be COVID testing sites. It overburdens them needlessly.

If you're talking strictly from a Rock point of view, there are plenty of reasons to not be hysterical that have his best interests in mind. If he's not exactly swimming in money, and he doesn't have it, even ignoring the fact that he just got a huge bill for nothing, the fact that he's then eating this bill would make him much less likely to go to the ER again later, even if his symptoms are worse and more Covidlike, cause hey it wasn't COVID last time and he's even worse financially now.

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Drakeryn
08/03/20 8:52:56 PM
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Given that he's in Florida, I'd say the odds of covid are higher than him randomly getting bronchitis in the middle of a big covid spike.

If he were in a relatively unaffected area it'd be a lot less concerning.
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foolm0r0n
08/03/20 10:55:20 PM
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You should be able to get tests at some local places that are WAY faster than any ER or hospital. Those are for people who broke their leg or got shot. Or are about to die from covid symptoms.

We did one a few weeks ago at a fire station and it took 2 days to get results. But I do believe that Florida is a total disaster right now. But it shouldn't be THAT bad.

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Lopen
08/03/20 11:47:23 PM
#62:


Drakeryn posted...
Given that he's in Florida, I'd say the odds of covid are higher than him randomly getting bronchitis in the middle of a big covid spike.

If he were in a relatively unaffected area it'd be a lot less concerning.

Well there are actually a lot of cases of bronchitis per year. Granted much less so in Florida in the summer but when compared to "Covid cases without fever as a symptom" ehh I think it's not as concerning as you'd think, especially considering all of the other possible ailments that could be causing it.

Like Covid would normally be your number one fear by a wide margin in the current environment but not nearly as much so when chronic dry cough is the only symptom experienced. That's not saying he absolutely doesn't have it but it's not a "you have to get this treated now!!!" thing right now. It's not like Covid progresses from fairly harmless to "can't breathe well enough to call an ambulance" in one night either.

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VintageGin
08/04/20 1:10:34 AM
#63:


Lopen posted...
It's not like Covid progresses from fairly harmless to "can't breathe well enough to call an ambulance" in one night either.

Anecdotally, the accounts I've heard from people who had COVID are that it was just that-- mild to medium symptoms that persisted for a few days that then became severe overnight.

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scarletspeed7
08/04/20 1:39:24 AM
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Holy hell that's a lot of deleted posts.

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Lopen
08/04/20 9:48:59 AM
#65:


VintageGin posted...
Anecdotally, the accounts I've heard from people who had COVID are that it was just that-- mild to medium symptoms that persisted for a few days that then became severe overnight.

Severe doesn't mean "literally dying where you stand to a level where you can't call an ambulance."

Like even assuming you're correct he's supposed to stay in a hospital 24/7 until he's fully better then? Forget 2000 let's make him lose like 10k instead, and take hospital resources for weeks with a relatively healthy person. There isn't a miracle cure for COVID even if you catch it early, you know-- the reason you want to catch it early is primarily to contain spread (which Rock is doing) not increase life expectancy.

If it becomes severe treat it as such but you can't just camp out in the hospital in fears it might get worse, especially when you dont even have the defining symptom of the illness.

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Steiner
08/04/20 10:00:33 AM
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lopen is a robot programmed to just argue with whatever it reads

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iiaattgg
08/04/20 10:04:26 AM
#67:


Does TheRock1525 have The CoronaVirus?

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Lopen
08/04/20 10:18:55 AM
#68:


Steiner posted...
lopen is a robot programmed to just argue with whatever it reads

I concur

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TheRock1525
08/04/20 5:14:19 PM
#69:


I will say that the cough is getting better, mostly because it's less consistent now.

And there's some phlegm now, but not much.

For the most part I'm just staying home and cleaning, though, which is nice. I think I went outside twice.

And I now have an excuse to wear a do-rag for the first time since I played football!

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colliding
08/04/20 9:41:10 PM
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Glad to hear you're feeling better.

How's your sinuses? Got any congestion or post-nasal drip?
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MasaomiHouzuki
08/04/20 10:02:31 PM
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Severe doesn't mean "literally dying where you stand to a level where you can't call an ambulance."

When a covid case is classified as "severe" by official bodies, this is in fact what's happening, because they have to be on a ventilator. Now I am not too familiar with bad disease progression, but even "mild" cases are walking pneumonia and have been recounted as "feel like the person is dying".

"mild" is kind of a bad label because it can be anything from little to no symptoms or "technically not going to hospitalize even though you have fever and feel like death because you don't check this list of symptom boxes"
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Corrik7
08/05/20 1:36:08 AM
#72:


MasaomiHouzuki posted...
When a covid case is classified as "severe" by official bodies, this is in fact what's happening, because they have to be on a ventilator.
This is incorrect. Severe does not mean on a ventilator. It does include those on a ventilator though.

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Lopen
08/05/20 10:25:48 AM
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MasaomiHouzuki posted...
When a covid case is classified as "severe" by official bodies


VintageGin posted...
Anecdotally, the accounts I've heard from people who had COVID are that it was just that-- mild to medium symptoms that persisted for a few days that then became severe overnight

"Official body" VintageGin's friends.

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TheRock1525
08/05/20 11:52:04 AM
#74:


I can't tell if the diarrhea is a Covid symptom or a product of the 6-8 difference medicines I'm taking right now. >_>

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Waluigi1
08/05/20 7:30:18 PM
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It's one of the symptoms. There are like 12-15 of them.

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Maniac64
08/05/20 8:22:02 PM
#76:


It's also probably a potential side effect of at least one of those medicines.

So hard to say.

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TheRock1525
08/06/20 4:02:55 PM
#77:



On one hand, great! Glad I don't have Covid19.

On the other hand, I still have this obnoxious cough. My doctor prescribed me anti-biotics so I guess I'll keep taking those for now.

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colliding
08/06/20 4:30:05 PM
#78:


yeah if you're taking antibiotics that's probably why you got the shits
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TheRock1525
08/06/20 7:11:18 PM
#79:


BTW, does anyone know what all the deleted messages are from?

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Mr Lasastryke
08/06/20 7:15:08 PM
#80:


TheRock1525 posted...
BTW, does anyone know what all the deleted messages are from?

pxlated was flipping her shit at you for not going to the ER. then she was flipping her shit at (mainly) lopen and greengravy for "not caring about you."

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Drakeryn
08/06/20 7:22:59 PM
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yay

lopen knows his stuff
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TheRock1525
08/06/20 7:29:35 PM
#82:


I just didn't see the point in going to the ER for one symptom. Yes coughing a lot sucks. Yes coughing so much you start to gag and occasionally throw up sucks, too. But that's why I have a personal doctor to keep in contact with in these situations. Trust me, I'm usually the over-worrier. My dad wanted me to just take him to an urgent care but insisted on a hospital and found out he was having a god damn heart attack.

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TheRock1525
08/06/20 7:30:04 PM
#83:


Also since I'm out of sick days the only way I get paid is to use my vacation days.

Worst vacation ever.

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greengravy294
08/06/20 7:31:57 PM
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doctor lopen has all the right answers.

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TheRock1525
08/06/20 7:35:00 PM
#85:


Also Jesus Christ the medical bill if I had gone to the ER. I was gonna have to drop $170 at the UC just to get tested, I'm glad I made it in at CVS for free.

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foolm0r0n
08/06/20 11:22:26 PM
#86:


Also these tests are wrong about 30% of the time (both false negatives and false positives) so you probably don't have it but it wouldn't be surprising if you actually do!

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Lopen
08/07/20 11:14:29 AM
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If you don't have a fever you probably don't have Covid as a general rule of thumb. There's a reason all the places that have half-ass Covid screening in place take your temperature. I would say the only reason you'd be concerned of Covid if you don't have a fever is if you have the loss of taste/smell, which are symptoms very strongly linked to the disease if you have them.

But I still say even if he had Covid there really was no reason to go to the ER for it as it stands. You don't get cured of Covid by being put on a ventilator. ER is for emergencies and his conditions weren't at an emergency level. He would've just paid to rest in a bed which he can do at home.

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MasaomiHouzuki
08/07/20 3:08:23 PM
#88:


Corrik7 posted...
This is incorrect. Severe does not mean on a ventilator. It does include those on a ventilator though.

Source? It's been a while since I checked, maybe I'm wrong here. I know that ventilators aren't helping and last time I checked 2 months ago there was some evidence they made mortality outcomes worse.

Lopen posted...
"Official body" VintageGin's friends.

The second sentence is saying that, even by official standards of "mild" the symptoms would still appear "severe" according to what VintageGin's friends would say. I guess I could have made this clearer and not had it at the bottom of a sigless post where it's easily missable.
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Corrik7
08/07/20 3:35:17 PM
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MasaomiHouzuki posted...
Source? It's been a while since I checked, maybe I'm wrong here. I know that ventilators aren't helping and last time I checked 2 months ago there was some evidence they made mortality outcomes worse.
Any hospitalization is listed as severe whether it is regular, ICU bed, or lastly ventilators.

Being in the ICU does not mean you are on a ventilator either.

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Corrik7
08/07/20 3:38:43 PM
#90:


Lopen posted...
If you don't have a fever you probably don't have Covid as a general rule of thumb. There's a reason all the places that have half-ass Covid screening in place take your temperature. I would say the only reason you'd be concerned of Covid if you don't have a fever is if you have the loss of taste/smell, which are symptoms very strongly linked to the disease if you have them.

But I still say even if he had Covid there really was no reason to go to the ER for it as it stands. You don't get cured of Covid by being put on a ventilator. ER is for emergencies and his conditions weren't at an emergency level. He would've just paid to rest in a bed which he can do at home.
Ventilators are a last resort because they fuck your lungs up pretty severely. If you are on a ventilator, they legit think you are gonna die.

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Corrik7
08/07/20 3:40:31 PM
#91:


TheRock1525 posted...

On one hand, great! Glad I don't have Covid19.

On the other hand, I still have this obnoxious cough. My doctor prescribed me anti-biotics so I guess I'll keep taking those for now.
Probably a hair ball from going down on a passed out chick, based on your symptoms imo.

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Waluigi1
08/07/20 4:52:13 PM
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The temperature thing is dumb cause I've heard of plenty of cases with no fever yet confirmed positive. From what I understand the fever just kinda comes and goes.

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Corrik7
08/07/20 5:17:13 PM
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Fevers and coughs are the most common symptoms but they are not in all cases that show symptoms.

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Drakeryn
08/07/20 5:37:10 PM
#94:


Corrik7 posted...
Any hospitalization is listed as severe whether it is regular, ICU bed, or lastly ventilators.

Being in the ICU does not mean you are on a ventilator either.

This is vaguely what I remember from reading articles back in March, though I don't have a source.
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Lopen
08/07/20 5:44:24 PM
#95:


Waluigi1 posted...
The temperature thing is dumb cause I've heard of plenty of cases with no fever yet confirmed positive. From what I understand the fever just kinda comes and goes.

From what I've read fever rate is estimated at 80%+ among people with symptoms based on the statistics of infected vs displayed symptoms. I mean yes you can hear of "plenty" because < 20% of a virus with millions of infected is still a substantial sum but it should put your mind at ease enough that the first reaction isn't to head to the ER.

I would imagine with severe cases the fever rate is higher, too. I mean I suppose Rock could be a symptomless COVID but that would be even more dumb to go to the hospital about.

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Corrik7
08/08/20 6:37:36 PM
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Drakeryn posted...
This is vaguely what I remember from reading articles back in March, though I don't have a source.
Ya.

For example New Jersey today.

540 people in hospitals
94 in ICU
34 on ventilators

Those are the severe cases.

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