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Corrik7
07/29/20 1:52:51 PM
#1:


Try to keep debate centered around the Coronavirus itself. Discuss testing, outbreaks, trends, safety regulations, vaccines, treatments, personal experiences with the disease, or so on.

This again is the counter I use.

https://youtu.be/NMre6IAAAiU

Mexico, South Africa, India, Brazil, and the United States continue rapid rises. USA approaching / surpassing 4.5 million cases.

MLB has restarted and the Marlins had at least 14 cases on their team causing some concern.

Schools starting around the corner.

Vaccines possibly being here by September.

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iiaattgg
07/29/20 2:16:54 PM
#2:


What's 29.4% of 473829, you fucking dumbass?

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Corrik7
07/29/20 2:17:59 PM
#3:


For red

https://i.imgur.com/OIVe74q.gif

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Whiskey_Nick
07/29/20 2:19:42 PM
#4:


Wear a damn mask

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PrivateBiscuit1
07/29/20 2:23:14 PM
#5:


Mask a wear damn

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charmander6000
07/29/20 2:56:52 PM
#6:


Corrik7 posted...
For red

https://i.imgur.com/OIVe74q.gif

Funny that for some days the number drops, I guess there was a miscount.

Due to the lag it's hard to say whether it's dropping, we'll see in the coming days.

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VintageGin
07/29/20 4:49:48 PM
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Waluigi1
07/29/20 5:18:51 PM
#8:


VintageGin posted...
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/another-dull-quarantine-weekend-at-home-target-chipotle-home-depot-and-our-nieces-graduation-party
That was an entertaining read.

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StealThisSheen
07/29/20 5:34:38 PM
#10:


...Dude, literally the next line

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Waluigi1
07/29/20 5:37:44 PM
#11:


Bruh...

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OrangeCrush980
07/29/20 5:38:12 PM
#12:


We stayed at home all weekend.

Nope
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Waluigi1
07/29/20 5:39:08 PM
#13:


Guys please

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neonreaper
07/29/20 5:40:40 PM
#14:


Crazy but thats how it goes

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VintageGin
07/29/20 5:49:06 PM
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Well, that article ended up being a gauge for something I didn't expect

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Leafeon13N
07/29/20 5:51:47 PM
#16:


The article describes a lot of my family perfectly.
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StealThisSheen
07/29/20 5:55:42 PM
#17:


VintageGin posted...
Well, that article ended up being a gauge for something I didn't expect

People will only read things to the very first line they disagree with, it seems.

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VintageGin
07/29/20 6:24:48 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
People will only read things to the very first line

Factually incorrect. People definitely read past the first line, you absolute buffoon.


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hockeydude15
07/29/20 7:05:11 PM
#20:


lol ulti

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iiaattgg
07/29/20 7:11:56 PM
#21:


Ulti i think you should read the article

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MoogleKupo141
07/29/20 7:29:39 PM
#22:


UltimaterializerX posted...

If you bring a mask everywhere you go, you are a sheep.


what percentage of places can I bring a mask with me to before I become a sheep
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VintageGin
07/29/20 7:31:41 PM
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MoogleKupo141 posted...
what percentage of places can I bring a mask with me to before I become a sheep

it's probably a proportionally sliding scale

100% and you are full sheep

50% and you're merely a were-sheep


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SmartMuffin
07/29/20 7:58:23 PM
#24:


https://twitter.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1288572692959043585

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say there is no evidence that lockdowns work.

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iiaattgg
07/29/20 8:15:05 PM
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SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1288572692959043585

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say there is no evidence that lockdowns work.
But, Donald Trump!

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Leafeon13N
07/29/20 8:28:14 PM
#26:


Remember when we were talking about just 60000 deaths by August?
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Waluigi1
07/29/20 8:41:56 PM
#27:


Ulti just stop commenting on articles you don't read.

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Mr Lasastryke
07/29/20 8:43:29 PM
#28:


Waluigi1 posted...
Ulti just stop commenting on articles you don't read.

people have been telling him to do this for years with no luck

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Waluigi1
07/29/20 8:48:07 PM
#29:


I know :/

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StealThisSheen
07/29/20 9:06:30 PM
#31:


Yeah but it's literally in the part you copied to quote

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LordoftheMorons
07/29/20 9:18:11 PM
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Guess it doesn't matter how blatant it is that something is satire if you refuse to actually read it before providing a take!

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Corrik7
07/30/20 7:38:49 AM
#33:


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53576653

https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/news/2020/07/29/florida-closing-all-state-run-covid-19-testing-sites-ahead-of-storm

Poland setting case records. Belgium relocking down antwerp due to outbreak.

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TheRock1525
07/30/20 8:58:26 AM
#34:


Oh hey Florida setting a new daily high for deaths. That's great.

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SmartMuffin
07/30/20 9:15:25 AM
#35:


It has been two months since the Memorial Day "spike."

Here's the all-age US death chart.



Still no surge of deaths. Still no second wave.

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iiaattgg
07/30/20 9:18:13 AM
#36:


SmartMuffin posted...
It has been two months since the Memorial Day "spike."

Here's the all-age US death chart.



Still no surge of deaths. Still no second wave.
Donald Trump

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LordoftheMorons
07/30/20 9:37:42 AM
#37:


SmartMuffin posted...
It has been two months since the Memorial Day "spike."

Here's the all-age US death chart.



Still no surge of deaths. Still no second wave.
As I'm pretty sure I explained to you previously in this very topic series, and is explained in the caption below the figure, this only includes deaths for which a death certificate has been received. This means that most of the newish deaths (past few weeks) are missing. If you look at the total deaths being reported by the states, deaths are very clearly increasing, and have been for several weeks:

https://www.us-covid-tracker.com/?field=newDeaths&time=all

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iiaattgg
07/30/20 12:43:24 PM
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Thats actually a fantastic gimmick and i encourage its fleshing out. Ahead of the curve my man

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Leafeon13N
07/30/20 2:29:37 PM
#40:


We are literally back up the curve to where we were at the end of May in deaths right now.
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Corrik7
07/30/20 2:42:30 PM
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Leafeon13N posted...
We are literally back up the curve to where we were at the end of May in deaths right now.
Spread out across a much, much larger swathe of population and regions that were never hit before locking down the first time.

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Corrik7
07/30/20 2:49:57 PM
#42:


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-coronavirus-ontario-july-30-back-to-school-1.5668495

Only us remain the boneheads regarding schooling it seems. Stunting our children's growth to own the conservs.

Lol

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Leafeon13N
07/30/20 2:58:37 PM
#43:


Corrik7 posted...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-coronavirus-ontario-july-30-back-to-school-1.5668495

Only us remain the boneheads regarding schooling it seems. Stunting our children's growth to own the conservs.

Lol
We're also one of just a few still dying at high rates, but you know...
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PrivateBiscuit1
07/30/20 3:11:22 PM
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You know what else stunts children's growth? When they pass onto the disease to their parents, teachers, and grandparents who are sick or dying.

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Corrik7
07/30/20 3:42:05 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
You know what else stunts children's growth? When they pass onto the disease to their parents, teachers, and grandparents who are sick or dying.
Stunt all the kids growth and development for the .01%.

That's a winning strategy! How many people have to come out and say school benefits outweigh the costs?

The same people who are saying listen and wear the masks like everyone tells you to are now saying ignore those people regarding schools.


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MyMainAccount
07/30/20 3:54:54 PM
#46:


UltimaterializerX posted...
If you bring a mask everywhere you go, you are a sheep.
And yet the one going innocently to the slaughter is you


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MyMainAccount
07/30/20 3:59:33 PM
#47:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/jeffreyatucker/status/1288572692959043585

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say there is no evidence that lockdowns work.
Can you share with me what youre reading in that graph? Cuz to me it kind of just looks like a mess. Whats the number on the y axis represent?

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SmartMuffin
07/30/20 4:21:20 PM
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Can you share with me what youre reading in that graph? Cuz to me it kind of just looks like a mess. Whats the number on the y axis represent?

The y-axis represents "government response stringency," basically an attempt to try and quantify how strict lockdown policy has been. Higher values = stricter lockdown. I'm not familiar with the specifics and details of how they go about estimating it.

But the story of the graph is that it's basically wholly uncorrelated with deaths per million. Chile and Peru had strict lockdowns, but bad outcomes. Burundi and Tanzania had little lockdown, and great results. Uganda and Mozambique had strict lockdown, but good results. Sweden and Belgium had relatively unstrict lockdowns, and also bad results.

Basically, this shows that lockdown severity is not at all a good predictor of deaths, nor vice versa. If all you know about a country is that it lockdowned strictly or minimally, you wouldn't be able to predict whether they had high or low deaths per million at all, or the other way around (I give you the deaths per million and ask you to guess the lockdown policy).

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SmartMuffin
07/30/20 4:26:05 PM
#49:


Let's play "Onion, Babylon Bee, or Real?"

https://twitter.com/EdCove19/status/1288915620390723586

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MyMainAccount
07/30/20 6:04:08 PM
#50:


SmartMuffin posted...
The y-axis represents "government response stringency," basically an attempt to try and quantify how strict lockdown policy has been. Higher values = stricter lockdown. I'm not familiar with the specifics and details of how they go about estimating it.

But the story of the graph is that it's basically wholly uncorrelated with deaths per million. Chile and Peru had strict lockdowns, but bad outcomes. Burundi and Tanzania had little lockdown, and great results. Uganda and Mozambique had strict lockdown, but good results. Sweden and Belgium had relatively unstrict lockdowns, and also bad results.

Basically, this shows that lockdown severity is not at all a good predictor of deaths, nor vice versa. If all you know about a country is that it lockdowned strictly or minimally, you wouldn't be able to predict whether they had high or low deaths per million at all, or the other way around (I give you the deaths per million and ask you to guess the lockdown policy).

Are they counting deaths per million or actual number? Personally I wouldn't be so thrilled with a graph that I'd have to say "I'm not sure what this part means" in response to.

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