Board 8 > How would they do in a contest? Day 393 ft Cookie Masterson, Mr. X, Dimentio

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half_silver28
07/10/20 9:56:03 PM
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This is a topic to rate the contest strength of potential newcomers in the current contest environment.

I will pick the characters to rate and discuss for each day from user nominations - whoever the 3 most nominated characters are at that time. If there are more than 3 I will pick randomly. You can nominate any number of characters at any time, but you cannot nominate the same character twice.

All characters who were present in the 2018 Character Battle will NOT be eligible. Otherwise you can nominate any character that has appeared in video games; even comic book characters. This will exclude real-life athletes who have only appeared in long running sports series, however I will accept those who have their own games such as Shaq. I will accept nominations for iconic gaming duos too, if there is a compelling reason for both characters to be linked (either co-starring in a game ala Banjo & Kazooie, or always appearing together like Callie & Marie from Splatoon).

Each day will have a separate topic, and nominations will carry over. As far as actually rating the character's contest strength; I ask that users rank a characters potential strength with one of the following qualifiers - LAW Fodder, Low Fodder, Mid Fodder, High Fodder, Fodder Line, Low Midcarder, Midcarder, High Midcarder, Near Elite, Elite, LAW Tier (capable of beating Link). I will average all the ratings given to a character to come up with their final ranking. I have included a highlighted entrant from Character Battle X on each tier of the strength rankings below, to provide a baseline for each.

Note that LAW Fodder is meant to be a tier reserved for the weakest possible characters to put into a contest. A character will only be placed there if at least 3/4ths of the voters for that day agree on the LAW Fodder rating, and no ratings above Low Fodder are given. If either of those conditions are not met, the character will not be eligible for the LAW Fodder tier.

Current Character Strength Rankings: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1P1AIhHywBiLd6VAMZMNEGX-HW2td8u1D0Iw_tzHsORw/edit?usp=sharing

Nomination List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KnSBDzppzPK5Ug1zmx8_x0bG4tqFDMPPH2k8J3s8sk/edit?usp=sharing

If you feel that a character has been over or under-ranked, or if a new development has come up that would affect their contest strength, you may nominate them for a re-ranking. You may nominate one character per day for this, and 3 votes are needed to get them on the slate. One character with 3 votes will come up for re-ranking today.

Re-ranking Nomination List: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1V6dx-tu-FD1rCxbX69eQwEzE7x1F6nNRNFochYHu1dc/edit?usp=sharing

Results from Day 392:

Madison Paige (Heavy Rain) is Low Fodder
Presea Combatir (Tales of Symphonia) is Low Fodder
Arceus (Pokemon) is Low Fodder

Re-Ranking Result:

Doctor Doom (Marvel) is now Mid Fodder

Here is today's trio to rank:

Cookie Masterson (Jackbox/You Don't Know Jack)
Mr. X (Resident Evil 2)
Dimentio (Super Paper Mario)

Today's Re-Ranking is:

Godzilla (Godzilla)

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half_silver28
07/11/20 10:14:03 AM
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I really don't know Jack, so I'll say Low Fodder for Cookie. He'll have the support of B8 and will probably be able to pick up some casual votes to not be terrible.

I don't think people care for Mr. X the same way they care about Nemesis, but RE2 is still very popular on the site, so I'll give Mr. X Mid Fodder. Plus he'll GIVE IT YOU KNOCK KNOCK OPEN THE DOOR ITS REAL

Low Fodder for Dimentio. I'm not convinced that Gfaqs cares enough about Super Paper Mario, which has always a somewhat divisive game.

Godzilla I say is High Fodder. He is an icon and probably the sole reason Kaiju media is still around to this day. He's been in a ton of video games, including Destroy All Monsters Melee which a lot of Gfaqs has likely played. Plus he has new western movies come out every few years, the most recent being last year's King of the Monsters. I'm sure some people are fans of the hundreds of Japanese movies around, but I doubt there will be many here. And you can't really go wrong with his design 1997 Godzilla wasn't him, it was -Zilla-, check the nomination list

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LinkMarioSamus
07/11/20 11:17:38 AM
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Yeah High Fodder looks better for Godzilla. He kind of sticks out like a sore thumb in the Mid Fodder section; I think we had a different idea of Mid Fodder then.

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MetalmindStats
07/11/20 3:58:02 PM
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half_silver28 posted...
I really don't know Jack
In the end, don't we all not know Jack?

Anyways, I'll agree with Low Fodder for Cookie, but barely. Realistically, I'd expect the Jackbox series to have a horribly low playrate outside of B8, and an even lower proportion of voters who would vote for the host of certain individual games, one who's unseen besides on the various title screens (or at least I think it's Cookie shown on them). I honestly believe he'd have been LAW Fodder this time last year, but external circumstances have probably given him and his series a noticeable leg up since then, even on a site which barely plays multiplayer games without huge brands.

I'll also agree with Mid Fodder for Mr. X and Low Fodder for Dimentio, whose game has aged gracefully among a subset of its players as opposed to the whole set it would need to produce a Mid Fodder or better original character.

As for Godzilla, I'm still going to side with Mid Fodder. I admit that he does look quite out of place among that rank, but I'd argue that's solely because of his outsized (har) pop-cultural prominence in general, much less by Mid Fodder standards. Otherwise, he has a more severe version of the Doctor Doom syndrome: plenty of exposure, but no reason for voters to actually care other than simple name/pic value. The recent movies sure didn't provide that, nor did a game that barely makes the top 100 in terms of total ratings among GameCube games and has an average rating below 7/10. The 1998 movie was a very big deal and came out at a perfect time, and it absolutely would have provided that if it was even ironically well-liked, but instead it was so bad Toho disowned its take on Godzilla. The Toho movies likely have good watchrates by foreign-language standards, but that's not saying much really. Ultimately, Jurassic Park was infinitely bigger for GameFAQs than anything Godzilla's ever been in, so I don't think it's too wild to say one giant lizard (even though T-rexes aren't truly lizards) is on a similar level to the other here.

I've been collecting a list of previously unnominated characters for a little while, but there's one I'm going to have to rush because we've somehow, someway completely and entirely missed it for over 390 days. That, of course, is the Chocobo, originally from Final Fantasy II. I know it's not a 'true' character, but what and how the heck?

I'll also third the B.O.W., Firebrand, Frankenstein, Ghost Rider, Nathan Spencer, and Tron Bonne nominations.

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ZeroSignal620
07/11/20 6:13:43 PM
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Cookie - Low Fodder
Mr. X - Mid Fodder
Dimentio - Low fodder

Godzilla - High fodder

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half_silver28
07/11/20 6:46:23 PM
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also nominate the Chocobo - at the time I was looking for characters to nominate I didn't see the point of rating a generic Chocobo when Boko was also available. However I think there are some major differences that could make Chocobo stronger than Boko.

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AxemRedRanger
07/11/20 7:24:46 PM
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Nominate:
Chocobo
Moogle

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AxemRedRanger
07/11/20 7:26:45 PM
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Agreed with Metalmind except full LAW fodder for Cookie.

whats happened that would make him worth anything?

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MetalmindStats
07/11/20 7:40:43 PM
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AxemRedRanger posted...
whats happened that would make him worth anything?
COVID. I maybe (probably) overstated its effect before, but it certainly feels like Jackbox has become a go-to multiplayer option for the admittedly small board game-playing portion of GameFAQs, and I'd guess Cookie was very near the Low/LAW boundary beforehand.

I'll also second Moogle.

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half_silver28
07/11/20 10:05:55 PM
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