Poll of the Day > All console games should have latency options.

(+) Yeah! (+)

currently playing the last of us II for the second time around and the game is beautiful, so beautiful that i turn off the game mode setting on my tv because that slightly makes the graphics worse. but with game mode off, there is like a .5 second delay on my controls because of the latency.

They should put latency options in the settings of games like they did for guitar hero/rock band so I can play my games as beautifully as possible without making the controls feel like ice

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They should let you turn off vsync.

The PS4 is already more or less using all its power, if it were to do the same thing your TV does it wouldn't give you any lag, it would just decrease the framerate by however expensive that shader is to run.

The rock band latency was just to calibrate input so it was easier to time your notes.

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Yeah, that only works with games that require simple predictable inputs (like rhythm games). Latency settings just delay the timing required for those inputs.

You are asking for the game to predict where you're going to move, when you're going to shoot, and to send that data to your TV before you actually perform those actions.

FourthDimension posted...

You are asking for the game to predict where you're going to move, when you're going to shoot, and to send that data to your TV before you actually perform those actions.

No, Im asking for there to not be a massive delay between me pressing the button and it actually happening on screen. Game mode already does this, it just makes the picture slightly worse.

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But that's a TV issue, not a software issue...

FourthDimension posted...

But that's a TV issue, not a software issue...

No, it's a software issue. I've played the Crash Bandicoot remake and Final Fantasy XII remaster on PS4 and PC on the same display. The PS4 versions have horrible input lag and the PC versions don't if you disable vsync.

FourthDimension posted...

But that's a TV issue, not a software issue...

Yeah definitely, but its a common issue so let me program the latency into it.

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I get what you're saying. The latency you might be asking for is the kind of processing that takes past and future frames to generate an output. That requires some kind of recording, so that would be the lag you're talking about.

I guess the reason behind why what you're asking for doesn't exist is that a feature that adds lag for the benefit of minor visual improvements doesn't sound like a sexy thing to market... or hell, since no one except a dev would really come up with that idea, not fun to make.

Honestly it's not a bad gimmick for Sony/MS to throw into their OS, but like you said it's just an alternative to what's built into most modern smart TVs that's going to take a chunk of processing power out of a controlled box. It would probably need a separate processor.

And btw it wouldn't make a lot of sense to throw it into games individually. There's no real optimization to be done (none that would warrant the investment of doing what most smart tvs do). It would realistically have to operate on the OS level or TV signal.

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ur mum should have a latency option lol

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FatalAccident posted...

ur mum should have a latency option lol

got 'em

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Yellow posted...

The latency you might be asking for is the kind of processing that takes past and future frames to generate an output.

I highly doubt my tv is doing this. Like I said, I can completely get rid of the input lag via a setting on my tv.

why can my tv do this (while degrading the picture quality) but not the PS4?

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Because your smart TV has a dedicated processor that adds shaders to the video.

The latency free game mode skips it and displays the signal faster.

You're basically asking why your PS4 isn't more powerful.

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while working on VR stuff John Carmack was lamenting the fact that he could send a packet across the ocean faster than he could light up a pixel on a display that's right in front of him.

https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/193480622533120001

DirtBasedSoap posted...

I highly doubt my tv is doing this. Like I said, I can completely get rid of the input lag via a setting on my tv.

I don't know what the actual problem is, but this logic doesn't make sense.

"I doubt it's my TV, because my TV has a setting that enables and disables the problem"?

there are processors and filters, etc. that are in modern display devices that can add considerable input lag, which is what Carmack was getting frustrated by.

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Sahuagin posted...

I don't know what the actual problem is, but this logic doesn't make sense.

because you misinterpreted what I was saying. When I said I doubt my tv is doing this I meant I doubt that my tv is using the kind of processing that takes past and future frames to generate an output. like yellow suggested

it seems like my PlayStation has zero problems doing what Im asking it to do, its my tv causing a huge delay

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it does sound like it's your TV. if there's a setting on the TV itself I would disable it unless you just can't live without that effect. or get a new TV (or a monitor).

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